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All Forum Posts by: Bill Neves

Bill Neves has started 1 posts and replied 323 times.

Post: Ramsey or Kiyosaki doesn't matter! Getting rid of "bad" debt is important!

Bill Neves
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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 328
  • Votes 252

College educated folks many times work for the High School drop outs. Just sayin'!

Post: any mobile home landlords out there????

Bill Neves
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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 328
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As mentioned, I found one at the local REIA meeting. Asked who did loans. Got a name and met with her offline. Told her what I was doing and asked what it would take to do the required paperwork.

Post: Still learning

Bill Neves
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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 328
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Check with your state. Each state has slightly different rules. States track chain of title. Some states have a tax when selling. You can bypass yourself if you are a dealer. If you do it otherwise, it's considered fraud.

Post: any mobile home landlords out there????

Bill Neves
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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 328
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Originally posted by @Jerry Lucker:

GREAT thinking. I own a nice portfolio of mobile homes on private property -SFR- as rentals. I made the cash necessary to buy outright by flipping mobile home in mobile home parks.

The mobile homes only cost half of what stick built homes of the same square footage go for, BUT, I get 85% to 90% of the same rent as the stick builts. Easy math.

When I'm tired of being a landlord I'll sell on contract - which I've already started to do. TWO big points 1) Landlord - great business if you have the right attitude and treat it like a business. Join the best landlord association you can. The one I belong to here in WA makes the business a lot easier. 2) Sell on contract. Works just fine. Don't be afraid of the Dodd-Frank act or similar hoops. It probably won't apply and even if it would about $1,000 will cover the fees necessary to pay qualified individuals to set it up for you. 

It seems many folks suffer from knee jerk reactions to every challenge that comes down the pike. Don't fall into that trap! 

Good points Jerry. I have financed several mobile homes also. I found a local MLO person to do the paperwork required by Dodd Frank rules to stay legal. $1000 would be high. There are only 3 pieces of paper involved. People can ask at their local REIA and I'm sure they can find someone local to them.

Post: Still learning

Bill Neves
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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 328
  • Votes 252

Welcome @Danielle A.

Lots of great info here on mobile homes. Lonnie had some great ideas. Some of his techniques are out of date. 

Good luck.

Bill

Post: What Did You Do Today?

Bill Neves
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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 328
  • Votes 252

Got carpet installed on my latest mobile home deal then watched the Seahawks win an amazing Cinderella come from behind game.

Post: Exit Strategy When It All Goes Wrong - Mobile Homes

Bill Neves
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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 328
  • Votes 252

Lots of great ideas. As mentioned, you can give them away or sell for a thousand or a couple thousand and get rid of any with issues quickly. I bought 1 for $1k that needed work. After getting it, I decided I didn't want to do the work, so sold it (wholesale) for $3k on Craigslist. The guy was ecstatic.

I'm on my 27th one in 20 months. Did stick built before. Have only done one on a lot. ROI much nicer on mobile homes. Most of mine are in parks. Most parks, I have worked with, DO NOT allow rentals. In the ones that had rentals, the owner wouldn't let anyone else work in them. In most parks, residents must have bought them or be buying, at least on contract. No rentals, lease options, etc.

Make sure the park you are looking at is workable. That is, I initially thought a local park was workable. Bought 4 in 3 weeks back-to-back BEFORE I got one sold. Mistake! Found that the owner, although initially nice, was EXTREMELY difficult to work with, punitive demands and hard to get people qualified to move into the park. If I'm paying rent the owner is in no hurry to qualify people. Got 2 sold, still have 2. I'll still do fine, but it's eating my profit. 

Lesson learned.

Going forward I will go into a new park carefully. Buy and sell one, as a test, to ensure the park is workable, before jumping in more. If we don't have challenges we don't learn anything new, right?

Alternate options: Only buy on lots in a city of good size so you can sell them. Or as mentioned above, buy and move to your location. Buy newer ones in parks, or move to parks, so they can get a loan and have a couple lenders to qualify people to buy from you. You get cash. 

Why parks? Utilities are already in place. Just hook up. Move to land and there 'may' be additional unexpected costs.

Check out @John Fedro  and @Jerry Lucker on this blog.

Good luck and have fun!

Post: how to get started? where are the mobile home parks with vacancy?

Bill Neves
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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 328
  • Votes 252

I find mobile home deals in parks a couple of ways.

Craigslist (CL), MHVillage.com. MLS. I print a couple possible deals and drive the parks. While in the parks there will usually be FSBO (For Sale By Owner) signs. Some parks mgrs/owners print lists of FSBO in the park. Some don't. I have gone to parks from a CL ad only to find a FSBO I wasn't aware was there and that's the deal I did.

If you don't see anything on CL, you can look in the yellow pages for parks in your area. MHVillage has lists of mobile home parks in many areas. You can drive the parks and see what's available.

Local Investor club is a good avenue as mentioned here, too.

Happy Hunting!

Post: What to do with this Trailer?

Bill Neves
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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 328
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@Eric Bowlin

Option 2

It would take several years to recoup your money. Why do that for an extra $100/mo in rent? Sell it and let the handyman special purchaser do the work and bear the costs. Good option to finance some of the repairs.

Not sure about you but I've had renters less than appreciative of the work I put in rentals and I get it back pretty rough, down the road. Then have to fix it again.

If someone puts their work, time and dollars into a project, higher likelihood that they will take care of it.

Post: Mobile Home Buying

Bill Neves
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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 328
  • Votes 252

Craigslist and MHVillage.com are good sites.