All Forum Posts by: Jeff Gates
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Post: The danger of roommates

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Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:
@Jeff Gates can you clarify what your post is trying to say? Are you saying not to rent to roommates or not to accept rent from just one roommate? This may vary by state, but my lease is with multiple individuals, not to each separate roommate. If one roommate doesn't have their money, I would expect the others to be responsible. If I rent to three people, I can go after all three for missing money.
I think you can decide for yourself. If there was no rent paid, and you started eviction, then one roommate moved out, but the other roommate did not. If the one roommate that pays you their portion, and you cash the check you have a problem. In most cases, roommates do not take the responsibility of the contract. They act as a individual (in their mind), no matter what you write in your contract. After all, a contract is only as good as the other parties willingness to abide by it.
Post: Correctly rejecting a tenant for a previous eviction

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What is an Adverse Action?
An adverse action is any action by a landlord that is unfavorable to the interests of a rental applicant. Common adverse actions by landlords include:
- Denying the application;
The Adverse Action Notice
When an adverse action is taken that is based solely or partly on information in a consumer credit reports, the FCRA requires you to provide a notice of the adverse action to the consumer. The notice must include:
- the name, address and telephone number of the CRA that supplied the consumer report, including a toll-free telephone number for CRAs that maintain files nationwide;
- a statement that the CRA that supplied the report did not make the decision to take the adverse action and cannot give the specific reasons for it; and
- a notice of the individual's right to dispute the accuracy or completeness of any information the CRA furnished, and the consumer's right to a free report from the CRA upon request within 60 days.
Disclosure of this information is important because some consumer reports contain errors.
The adverse action notice must name the CRA that provided the report to the landlord, even if the information came from another CRA. For example, a report from XYZ TenantScreen includes a credit report from ABC Credit Bureau. The credit report includes negative information that prompts the landlord to turn down the rental application. The adverse action notice should name XYZ TenantScreen as the CRA because XYZ TenantScreen actually provided the credit report to the landlord. The notice also can explain that XYZ TenantScreen got the credit information from ABC Credit Bureau, but that is not required under the FCRA.
Written notices provide proof of FCRA compliance.
Post: The danger of roommates

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- Cathedral City, CA
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Accept rent payment from one person only!
The most common reason landlords terminate a tenancy is for nonpayment of rent. If a tenant does not pay the rent before the end of the day it’s due, a landlord can immediately send a termination notice (unless the lease or rental agreement provides for a grace period). The termination notice, called a Three-Day Notice to Pay Rent or Quit, gives the tenant three days to pay rent or move out.
If you haven’t followed the rules, and the tenant doesn’t pay or move within the specified three days, you’ll have to file an eviction lawsuit (also called an unlawful detainer). But the tenant may have a valid reason to contest or at least delay court proceedings based on your mistakes. If you lose the eviction lawsuit because you made a mistake in preparing or serving a three-day notice, you may even end up paying the tenant’s court costs and attorney fees (in addition to your own), and you will need to start all over again with a correct three-day notice.
If you rent to roommates and no rent is paid. One roommate can move out of the home. While the other roommate can pay what they believe is their portion of the rent payment.
If you do accept partial payment, you need to file a new three-day notice. See EDC Associates, Ltd. v. Gutierrez (1984) 153 Cal.App.3d 167, 200 Cal. Rptr. 333.
This action will reset the time period and you will need to start all over again with a correct three-day notice. Many months without rent payment can be the results of this mistake!
Post: Penalties if 1 year lease broken?

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I have a termination clause in my lease that allows either party to terminate with a 30 day notice for a addition termination fee of $2000.
Post: Quicken Rental Management VS. Quickbooks

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- Cathedral City, CA
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Originally posted by @Jeff B.:
Originally posted by @Dutch Marc:
Originally posted by @Jeff B.:
I am using Quickbooks pro as well for my business on the Mac. I am wondering if it would be easier to start using quicken Rental Property Manager instead of quickbooks pro. Seems like it's already setup mostly..
Would you be willing to share some of your setup? Account lists etc?
Thanks in Advance Marc
Any real accounting system can support ANY business, - - including Rentals. Having worked in software for so long, I can tell you, there's NOTHING special about software regardless of the title, "X Y Z pro", "Rental Manager", etc etc etc.
Let's see if I can paste a meaningful list: - - it shows up well when posting
Account | Type | Description | Accnt. # |
J Beard | Bank | new primary | |
11000 Accounts Receivable | Accounts Receivable | Unpaid or unapplied customer invoices and credits | 11000 |
11000 Accounts Receivable:11100 Bad Debt Allowance | Accounts Receivable | Bad Debt | 11100 |
12000 Undeposited Funds | Other Current Asset | Funds received, but not yet deposited to a bank account | 12000 |
12100 Inventory Asset | Other Current Asset | Costs of inventory purchased for resale | 12100 |
13000 Insurance Lost Rents | Other Current Asset | 13000 | |
15000 Furniture and Equipment | Fixed Asset | Furniture and equipment with useful life exceeding one year | 15000 |
17000 Accumulated Depreciation | Fixed Asset | Accumulated depreciation on equipment, buildings and improvements | 17000 |
12800 Tenant Deposits Paid | Other Asset | Deposit paid | 12800 |
20000 Accounts Payable | Accounts Payable | Unpaid or unapplied vendor bills or credits | 20000 |
24800 Tenant Security Deposits Held | Other Current Liability | Security deposits held for tenants | 24800 |
30000 Opening Balance Equity | Equity | Opening balances during setup post to this account. The balance of this account should be zero a... | 30000 |
30100 Capital Stock | Equity | Value of corporate stock | 30100 |
30200 Owner Contribution | Equity | 30200 | |
31400 Shareholder Distributions | Equity | Distributions paid to shareholders | 31400 |
32000 Retained Earnings | Equity | Undistributed earnings of the business | 32000 |
33000 Owner Distributions | Equity | 33000 | |
34000 Sinking fund (adj) | Equity | 34000 | |
35000 Payments from Insurance | Equity | 35000 | |
47400 Rental Income | Income | Rents received | 47400 |
47410 tentant expense | Income | 47410 | |
47500 Late Fees | Income | 47500 | |
50000 Cost of Goods Sold | Cost of Goods Sold | Costs of items purchased and then sold to customers | 50000 |
State/Fed Taxes | Expense | Estimated Tax Payments | |
60000 Advertising and Promotion | Expense | Advertising, marketing, graphic design, and other promotional expenses | 60000 |
60200 Automobile Expense | Expense | Fuel, oil, repairs, and other automobile maintenance for business autos | 60200 |
60400 Bank Service Charges | Expense | Bank account service fees, bad check charges and other bank fees | 60400 |
60500 Bad Debt | Expense | Rents lost | 60500 |
60600 Tenant Refunds | Expense | 60600 | |
61000 Business Licenses and Permits | Expense | Business licenses, permits, and other business-related fees | 61000 |
61700 Computer and Internet Expenses | Expense | Computer supplies, off-the-shelf software, online fees, and other computer or internet related e... | 61700 |
62400 Depreciation Expense | Expense | Depreciation on equipment, buildings and improvements | 62400 |
62500 Dues and Subscriptions | Expense | Subscriptions and membership dues for civic, service, professional, trade organizations | 62500 |
63300 Insurance Expense | Expense | Insurance expenses | 63300 |
63400 Interest Expense | Expense | Interest payments on business loans, credit card balances, or other business debt | 63400 |
64000 Credit-screening tenants | Expense | RHOL | 64000 |
64100 Management Fees | Expense | Fees paid to outside company for property management | 64100 |
64300 Meals and Entertainment | Expense | Business meals and entertainment expenses, including travel-related meals (may have limited dedu... | 64300 |
64300 Meals and Entertainment:64310 mileage | Expense | Mileage | 64310 |
64700 Miscellaneous Expense | Expense | Miscellaneous expenses not categorized elsewhere. Use memo field to describe business purpose | 64700 |
64900 Office Supplies | Expense | Office supplies expense | 64900 |
66500 Postage and Delivery | Expense | Postage, courier, and pickup and delivery services | 66500 |
66700 Professional Fees | Expense | Payments to accounting professionals and attorneys for accounting or legal services | 66700 |
67200 Repairs and Maintenance | Expense | Incidental repairs and maintenance of business assets that do not add to the value or appreciabl... | 67200 |
67200 Repairs and Maintenance:67210 Yard Maint | Expense | Yard Main | 67210 |
67200 Repairs and Maintenance:67250 1099 Maint Contractors | Expense | 1099 Contractor work | 67250 |
67300 Damage Fees on move-out | Expense | 67300 | |
67800 Small Tools and Equipment | Expense | Purchases of small tools or equipment not classified as fixed assets | 67800 |
68000 Taxes - Property | Expense | Taxes paid on property owned by the business, franchise taxes, excise taxes, etc. | 68000 |
68100 Telephone Expense | Expense | Telephone and long distance charges, faxing, and other fees Not equipment purchases | 68100 |
68600 Utilities | Expense | Water, electricity, garbage, and other basic utilities expenses | 68600 |
70300 Late Fees Income | Other Income | Income from finance charges and late fees charged | 70300 |
73000 reimbursed tenant expenses | Other Income | from Tenant damages | 73000 |
80000 Ask My Accountant | Other Expense | Transactions to be discussed with accountant, consultant, or tax preparer | 80000 |
81000 mortgage+interest | Other Expense | 81000 | |
83000 Tenant Damages | Other Expense | billable expenses, non-income | 83000 |
90000 Estimates | Non-Posting | Estimates for jobs or projects. Customer proposals for work to be done, or items to be sold upon... | 90000 |
90100 Purchase Orders | Non-Posting | Purchase orders specifying items ordered from vendors | 90100 |
Seems like over kill to me. Unless you are a business owner why touch most of those accounts. They are not necessary. Most Landlords own a average of three rentals. They will never use this complexity.
Post: Cozy Processing time update?

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Chase quickpay can afford to push money faster when the landlord becomes the backstop for unrecoverable monies. Read the fine print of the terms and conditions.
Post: What are the best interior doors for rowdy tenants?

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- Cathedral City, CA
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How about, replace the tenants?
Post: Security Deposits

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- Cathedral City, CA
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Originally posted by @Alan L. Weeks:
I'm renting my first property for $1,500/month in the greater Boston area. Anyone have any thoughts on what security deposits usually run? I've seen from $500 to 1 month's rent. Seems if you ask for first, last and security up front it can add up and potentially reduce the pool of good tenants depending on how much the security deposit is.
One months rent. If they balk at that, find another one.
Post: Reporting Rent Payment to Credit Bureau

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- Cathedral City, CA
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Originally posted by @Don Griffith:
erentpayment will allow the payments to be recorded and reported if the tenant chooses to do so. Some of mine want to buy a house in a few years so that's the way I went. They pay online and it gets reported. Win win!
It is questionable how much rent payments will increase credit scores. There is no more FICO, rather 49 versions of the algorithm, Each institution customizes what they need and the scores vary so much that we have no idea what a FICO is anymore. It is easy to customize a scoring algorithm that excludes rent payment data.
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As previously noted, there are 49 versions of FICO scores ...
Here they are….
Experian, FICO Risk Model V2 – Personal Finance
Experian FICO Risk Model V2 – Installment Loan
Experian, FICO Risk Model V2 – Bankcard
Experian, FICO Risk Model V2 – Auto
Experian, FICO Risk Model V2
Experian, FICO Risk Model V3
Experian, FICO Risk Model V3 – Auto
Experian, FICO Risk Model V3 – Personal Finance
Experian, FICO Risk Model V3 – Installment Loan
Experian, FICO Risk Model V3 – Bankcard
Experian, FICO Risk Model 08 – Mortgage
Experian, FICO Risk Model 08 – Auto
Experian, FICO Risk Model 08 – Bankcard
Experian, FICO Risk Model 08
Experian/FICO Advanced Risk Score 1.0
Experian/FICO Advanced Risk Score 2.0
FICO Risk Score, Classic 98
FICO Risk Score, Classic 98 Auto
FICO Risk Score, Classic 98 Personal Finance
FICO Risk Score, Classic 98 Installment Loan
FICO Risk Score, Classic 98 Bankcard
FICO Risk Score NextGen
FICO Risk Score NextGen 03
FICO Risk Score, Classic 08
FICO Risk Score, Classic 08 Auto
FICO Risk Score, Classic 08 Bankcard
FICO Risk Score, Classic 08 Mortgage
FICO Risk Score, Classic 04
FICO Risk Score, Classic 04 – Auto
FICO Risk Score, Classic 04 – Bankcard
FICO Risk Score, Classic 04 – Installment
FICO Risk Score, Classic 04 – Personal Finance
BEACON 09
BEACON 09 Mortgage
BEACON 09 Bankcard
BEACON 09 Auto
BEACON 5.0 – Mortgage
BEACON 5.0 – Auto
BEACON 5.0 – Bankcard
BEACON 5.0 – Installment
BEACON 5.0 – Personal Finance
BEACON 5.0
BEACON 96
BEACON 96 – Auto
BEACON 96 – Bankcard
BEACON 96 – Personal Finance
BEACON 96 – Installment
Pinnacle 1.0
Pinnacle 2.0
Post: Schedule e

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- Cathedral City, CA
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Schedule e is not the whole tax picture. However it is a fairly straight forward step. Once this data must be analyzed in context with all other individual tax data, then the tax return becomes individual. However the schedule e , by itself just communicates the rental property data factually as it occurred during the year. And .... I believe it can be auto generated and in complete form without a human hand.