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All Forum Posts by: Grant Shipman

Grant Shipman has started 78 posts and replied 268 times.

Post: Rather Than a BUNCH of books- why not master 1?

Grant Shipman
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  • Estes Park, CO
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I love all the thoughts shared.  It seems we all share common thoughts on the important thing for a new/wanna-be investor is to learn in order to act and hands-on is important and relationships are important.  I think Bruce Lee would feel at home in this convo...haha :)  For all you newbies/wanna-be's- be intentional about your learning- in the form of books/teaching, relationships, & execution/hands-on.  Rather than staying in and polishing the tools you've gained- go out and use those tools!  Master a kick and use it!  Rinse repeat.  That's my encouragement.  Let's GO LIVE OUR DAY DREAMS! 

Post: Rather Than a BUNCH of books- why not master 1?

Grant Shipman
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Estes Park, CO
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Quote from @Jeff S.:

@Grant Shipman the Art of the Deal. Some of the old classics are best to start with.

Personally when I was working and working RE I did not have time to read casual books. 

You are better off forming relationships with people in the biz then reading books but nothing happens until you start doing.


 Cool to hear- I really appreciated that book.  

Post: Rather Than a BUNCH of books- why not master 1?

Grant Shipman
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  • Estes Park, CO
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Quote from @Manny Vasquez:
Quote from @Grant Shipman:
Quote from @Manny Vasquez:

Real Estate has many, many "winning plays". You can stick to one strategy and be successful. For example, you can LTR, MTR, or STR, you can flip, you can BRRRR, you can house hack OR.......you can combine any of these strategies for an overall winning combination. The problem in mastering 1 book is that you will never know about the other concepts/strategies that can make you successful.

I liken this example to a football team: You CAN be very successful by being just a "running team", or an "aerial team" or even a "defense first" team.  However, you can increase your chances of winning a game by being able to run, throw, kick and play defense very well.


 So how many strategies do you recommend a new/wanna-be investor read before they try to master one? 


 That my friend is all up to you. You should read about them all (but that may take a long time unless you are a fast reader).  In the very least, consume other sources of information, like the different BP Podcasts (last I checked they have over 700 episodes), Real Estate Rookie, etc.  to determine what you will like.  I also want to say that there is nothing wrong with the "Buy & Hold" method....that strategy has worked very, very well, for millions of people throughout history, and if you apply it well, will work wonders for you.

I'll leave you with one more thought:  Do you believe test-driving one car will do the trick or do you believe test-driving multiple vehicles before deciding which one to buy will do the trick?  Lastly, I'm gonna use an old, old cliche here which you have undoubtedly heard before: "You will never know what you like unless you try it."


Sorry if I missed you on this. I am not in the new/wanna-e be stage- it sounds like you think I might be there. I have a successful PMC, retained rental properties, renovation company, BRRR's, syndications, MFR, among others. This post is to encourage those in the new/wanna-be stage to consider mastering one book rather than getting addicted and go on constant book benders that create hangovers rather than execution. I read 20-30 books per year, so I very much believe in life long learning- w/out CANI (constant and never ending improvement) my life would not be near as fun. Go live your day dreams Manny and thanks for sharing :)

Post: Individual room rental in single family?

Grant Shipman
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  • Estes Park, CO
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Quote from @Miller McSwain:

I am currently rent-by-room house-hacking.

I was in a similar situation as you. There was very little supply and high demand for small multifamily properties in my market, so I turned to rent-by-room because you basically turn a single-family house (that costs less than a multifamily) into multiple "units" by having multiple tenants.

In our case, we just pay for all utilities and have the rents increased a bit to compensate. Otherwise, you'd have to get billed, then divide up the total, then bill the tenants. OR you would have to have one of the tenants get billed, then they would have to chase everyone else down every month for their portion. Just paying for utilities yourself is much less of a headache.

Yes, we have a rental agreement that is a little different than for a traditional long-term rental. The main difference is just that the lease describes their private areas (bedroom, private bath if applicable) and the shared areas (living room, kitchen, etc) and their responsibilities for each.

Something else to think about. It may be worth providing thinking about ways to reduce tenant conflict. For example, we label/assign all shelves in the fridge, pantry, and freezer. That way, it is less likely for someone's food to get stolen, AND when a roommate moves out, we can just sweep their whole shelf into the trash.
Also, we provide all shared supplies (toilet paper for shared bathrooms, dish soap, trash bags, etc). That way tenants don't have to worry about if it is their turn to purchase a supply.


 I love to hear how you are doing things.  This is all my company does and we make way more money with way less money AND our renters get way more for way less.  I've spoken w/very few people who understand the things you just wrote about setting up a HH for success.  Are you planning to keep that going and do you syndicate in order to HH multiple times a year?  I'm up in Estes Park, CO.  Are you setup in the Springs? 

Pat- I love the direction you are going with this and you've gotten some great advice.  Feel free to DM with specifics, or set up a call, or check out my stuff. I'd love to help ease your learning curve with any specifics like lease development, pm software, books, etc.  Be brave- life favors the bold, prepared, & patient! 

Post: Newbie looking to house hacking a small multifamily in Austin, TX

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@Ben Kagel you explained your plan well. I lived in ATX for 8 years and loved it.  I'd suggest looking at Round Rock, Cedar Park, Budda, Huddo, etc.  Currently the ATX market is overpriced according to economics, which means in the coming years it could slow or drop in value (inflation adjusted that is).   That said, ATX & surrounding is a strong MSA, which is my metric for recession-proofing.  Maybe some of the surrounding ATX areas would qualify for a USDA 0% down loan. 

Two thoughts:

1) Consider using a renovation FHA loan, so you can wrap your improvement costs into your loan and save your cash?

2) Consider using Beyond House Hacking with a single family house.  This would give you your best chance at cash flowing, and having negative cash-flow is a sinister ship to sail.  The more cash flow the more cushion to absorb your learning curve and future economic surprises. 

Post: Can I rent my car to my property management company?

Grant Shipman
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  • Estes Park, CO
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Thanks everyone. It would be driven by my PMC staff (not me), so I'd like to 1) avoid retitling as is pricey in my state; 2) have my PMC benefit by having a vehicle fully dedicated to their operations; 3) treat my business like a business so to avoid "piercing the corporate veil". 

does that answer your question @Michael Plaks- I'd love to hear what you think.  I appreciate you pointing out the tax wash. 

Post: Rather Than a BUNCH of books- why not master 1?

Grant Shipman
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  • Estes Park, CO
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Quote from @John Mullen:

Agreed, @Grant Shipman.  The responses above contain excellent advice to continue learning throughout one’s real estate journey.  But speaking as a very new investor, I spent years in analysis paralysis before taking any action.  Consuming new IG or podcast content is fun, but it’s a hit of dopamine you haven’t earned.  BP is an entertainment product as much as it is a community of investors.  Not a knock, just a reality of entertainment culture.  Better to read 1-3 books and take action than 10 books and do nothing.  

Also, I found that for my temperament, having the accountability and external processing capacity of a business partner was necessary to get me off my couch.


Thanks for your advice, everybody! 


awesome to get a little window into your REI journey. I 100% agree. What specific REI book has helped you the most so far in your very new investor journey?

Post: Rather Than a BUNCH of books- why not master 1?

Grant Shipman
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Estes Park, CO
  • Posts 276
  • Votes 1,201
Quote from @Manny Vasquez:

Real Estate has many, many "winning plays". You can stick to one strategy and be successful. For example, you can LTR, MTR, or STR, you can flip, you can BRRRR, you can house hack OR.......you can combine any of these strategies for an overall winning combination. The problem in mastering 1 book is that you will never know about the other concepts/strategies that can make you successful.

I liken this example to a football team: You CAN be very successful by being just a "running team", or an "aerial team" or even a "defense first" team.  However, you can increase your chances of winning a game by being able to run, throw, kick and play defense very well.


 So how many strategies do you recommend a new/wanna-be investor read before they try to master one? 

Post: Rather Than a BUNCH of books- why not master 1?

Grant Shipman
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Estes Park, CO
  • Posts 276
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Quote from @Bob Stevens:

How about stop reading books ( I never have read one on RE and have done it all ) and simply connect with those doing deals, learn then apply what you learn, Hands on Trumps books any day, 

Rental, buy right, fix right, rent, not rocket science 

Good luck 


 Am I understanding you right? You are recommending someone who is in the new/wanna-be stage to not even read a single book on real estate investing?  I understand hands-on beats a book any day, but why not benefit from both if someone wants to? 

Post: Rather Than a BUNCH of books- why not master 1?

Grant Shipman
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Quote from @Eliott Elias:

You want to be well versed in real estate, you want to be able to see every situation and figure out the highest and best strategy for the property. If you're only good at flipping homes it takes you out of the running for a lot of deals. 


yes, but remember I'm talking about people in the new/wanna-be REI stage.