Originally posted by @Trevor Lohman:
That's awesome thanks @Gwen Fyfe,
Yes the home is in garfield heights. It looks like Cleveland water has some rate info on their site and it looks like garfield heights is on the higher end of their breakdown. It's a SFR, but from what I've heard Water (maybe sewer as well?) needs to be paid for by the landlord per code. Not sure if it's cleveland specific but there seems to be some consensus on this from what I've read so far. I'm hoping 100 a month or less, but the deal doesn't pivot on that...
I'll give Cleveland water a call tomorrow, thank you for the good info Gwen!
On a different note, how did you choose the particular towns in Northeast Ohio that you've chosen to invest in?
On the water thing - where is this idea that the landlord must pay the water coming from? Now that you brought it up, I've been reading around and it seems like people on BiggerPockets think that, but I can't see any substantiation for it outside this website. (Everyone seems to think this, not just you.)
Here's a page from Cleveland Tenant Rights saying the landlord can require the tenant to pay water as long as it's separately metered: http://www.clevelandtenants.org/for-tenants/tenant...
Here's a page from Garfield Heights specifically, saying the same thing: https://www.ghmc.org/renting/renting-basics/rights...
You must supply water, but you also must supply heat and electricity. You just need to make them available, not pay for them.
Anyway...
On the different towns: I decided what kind of property I wanted and then looked for a town where there were a lot of them. I settled on Bedford because it's also one of the few Cleveland suburbs which is C/B- class for good genuine reasons (the people here just aren't rich), rather than reasons like crime or poverty. I visited and it's a great little town with a lot of history, proud people and a lot going on. I'm a 5'2" unarmed woman and I'm happy to walk around at night.
Garfield Heights is also good, and I'm thinking about buying there when I start to do rehabs with my husband, but it's very different. I have a couple of young professional friends who live there, and the streets they're on are fine. But you have GOT to visit the individual street you're thinking of buying on. One street can be just peachy, and then two blocks away, the houses are half falling down, trash in the yards, probably at least one drug den on the street. If you find a good street, I think it's a great place to invest. One of the podcast guests said something along the line of "if you see young men moving into a neighborhood, buying houses and fixing them up to live in, the neighborhood is on its way up." It made sense to me because I'm seeing a lot of that with Garfield.
Edit: I just asked one of my friends who lives in Garfield (one guy in a single family home). He said his water and sewer together come to $30-$60, electricity and gas together usually come to around $100.