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All Forum Posts by: Ivan Barratt

Ivan Barratt has started 14 posts and replied 727 times.

Post: Syndication Investing During a Recession

Ivan Barratt
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  • Indianapolis, IN
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@Duke Giordano your defensive strategy is good one. After all, you can't lose money if you stay on the sidelines.  

I would however like to ask a question. What do you think happens to B/B+/A- (basically mid/upper end of workforce) apartment cap rates if those assets come out of "the covid recession" relatively unscathed vs other asset classes AND interest rates remain at zero?

Post: Getting started in Medium to Large Multi-Family

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  • Indianapolis, IN
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@Reed Meyer 

2001: started my career in real estate working for a mentor (a real estate developer / investor) and house hacking my first duplex.

2008: got my @$$ handed to me in the GFC. *Best gift of my real estate career.

2010: Started Barratt Asset Management (BAM) first as a property management co (managing rentals for other investors) while practicing some brokerage on the side until I had enough management contracts to stop brokering deals. At the same started doing small deals (duplex, triplex, 6 units, etc where I could execute a heavy rehab / value add play).

2012: Bought my first bigger deal at 35 units with one $$ money partner already in my network.

2014: Syndicated a 60 unit deal and never looked back. (**most of my first investors were management clients who saw and liked what I was doing).

2020: Me and my partner own 3,000 apartments via syndication (along with nearly 200 high net worth individuals and families that invest as LP's). BAM is asset and property manager and we don't take on any more 3rd party management deals. We only manage what we own and control.

Advice: while there may be some unicorns out there that go big early and succeed; there are far more successful people that started small and built unstoppable momentum one turn of the wheel at a time. Start tomorrow with a small deal, fail small, learn, rinse and repeat. Focus on doing that every day and 10 years from now you'll be called an overnight sensation. ;)

Post: Syndication Investing During a Recession

Ivan Barratt
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  • Indianapolis, IN
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@Eric Bilderback @Brian Burke is spot on with diversification.  Asset allocation is critical to an "all weather" portfolio. Remember to keep cash on hand as well. If you don't have cash on hand for at least 6 months (preferably a year) of living expenses; an illiquid syndication may not be suitable. There could be a lot of deals that don't distribute at all from here till a capital event.  Of that group many of those deals will be held longer than expected.

Post: Syndication Investing During a Recession

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@Eric While I think the odds of a shooting war with China are low I do think a two system (two internets, two currencies, two great powers, etc) world is inevitable. RE Taiwan: this should be real interesting to watch. Eisenhower (or someone from that era) called Taiwan the worlds largest aircraft carrier.  Much like Russia putting missiles in Cuba I can't imagine China "allowing" a US "carrier" so close to their mainland sphere of power.


Originally posted by @Eric Bilderback

@Ivan Barratt

I hope you are right and you very well could be.  I consider myself a pessimistic-realist and I give ourselves a solid chance of a real conflict with China.  America is just starting to realize who the gangsters are that run China.  My fear is China will realize that they can’t get rid of Trump by having the media parrot what a Xenophobe he is.  Then China may feel they have nothing to loose and attack Taiwan (or some other semi desperate action). Unfortunately we have a military pact with Taiwan like we do half of the rest of the world.  Full disclosure I like Trump and think he is right about China.  So if we get into any sort conflict with China even a proxy conflict through Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan, etc. this fluffy, create nothing economy we currently have will be brought to its knees.  The thing that gives me solace is if that happens it doesn’t really matter what you invested in its all going to hell LOL!  Bottom line is I don’t see how China says, “thats fine go ahead and take all of your production out of here and leave us to figure out how we keep all of our people working and not getting disgruntled."  In my view China never comes as close to measuring up to the West as it does right now.  

Sorry for the China rant there my point was I can see a scenario where this recession could get scary bad.  

Post: Syndication Investing During a Recession

Ivan Barratt
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  • Indianapolis, IN
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@Adam E. I like GC's sales and biz training. It's mostly solid advice that's been repackaged in a great format.  As far as his real estate offerings I think they're simply "ok." From a fees and returns perspective he's charging at the higher end and targeting lower returns. He can do this thanks to his large presence/audience.  I don't see that as good or bad; just factual.

Post: Syndication Investing During a Recession

Ivan Barratt
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@Brian Burke @Greg Dickerson great discussion so far gentlemen. Sorry I'm late! ;)

Glad we're not reliving 2008 again! Thankfully, I think the Fed and other central banks have a much better playbook this time. It WILL cause some higher inflation down the road but that's what is needed. :)

Markets: I think we're painting too broad of brush strokes here.  Real estate is still hyper local. Coastal gateways will soften (some by a lot) while many other areas of the country will continue to grow by 1 to 3%/year simply because they didn't boom (so they won't bust either).

Midwest: so far so good in our markets here in Indianapolis and surrounding tertiary cities. In the B+/B++ range we're seeing low to mid 90% rent collected. Many residents are working from home and others are getting healthy unemployment checks. In our markets we're still evicting. Thankfully, shelter comes right after food and water so most are paying.  It will however be interesting how cash flow is affected in the short run.

Investors: Our higher net-worth individuals and families are looking to re-balance their portfolios more heavily towards alternative assets (Income Property, Private Equity, Venture, Gold, etc), while what I would call our "retail LP's (net worth sub 5m) are getting more skiddish. Interesting enough I'm seeing my age cohort (late 30's through 40's) "high earners" pile in.

Deal Distributions: Many of our assets will distribute. Some of our lower end communities will conserve more cash to be cautious. Many of our deals are HUD financed (more defensive in nature) so there's a lot cash in reserve thankfully.

Deal Flow: seems to be picking up but we'll see.  We've got a couple interesting deals in the pipeline that came to us direct. 3 months ago they'd have traded higher on the open market. The fed keeps bailing out weaker players. I'd like to see some strong hands take some weak hands in my own local game of real estate but I'm not convinced.  The stimulus may greatly reduce the amount of opportunistic deal flow. Too many dollars will still be chasing yield.

Syndicators: There will be less of them in the near future. Strong operators will be key in achieving alpha returns. Market share for newer promoters without in-house management teams will be scarce.

Some Macro Thoughts: It's an exciting time to be alive. Globalization is being dismantled in favor of "America First" policies (*personally not a globalist or a nationalist. Just seeing the world for what it is"). This mega-trend started before CV19 and now it's simply speeding up. The US and "Fortress North America ((Canada, US, Mexico)You heard it here first)" will dominate the next several decades if not longer. The US economy will grow again as global supply chains continue to on-shore.  North American dominance will be built on Land, Resources (Food, Energy, Water, etc), People, Tech, Medical Innovation and Infrastructure.

Interest rates will stay low for another decade and so will cap rates (albeit with some rise in riskier asset classes like retail, hotel, office). US Safety and quality will continue to attract huge amounts of capital keeping a governor on rates.

When inflation returns landlords will raise rents even more.

And a game as old empire will continue...

Post: Refinancing During Apartment Syndication

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  • Indianapolis, IN
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@Jordan Santiago far easier to raise equity from individuals when there's no waterfall. Once you have a track record or you pursue private equity a waterfall is more common place. It doen't however change the equity %, instead it's the distribution of cash flows.

Post: Looking to network with investors who own over 100 properties

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@Shiloh Lundahl hello! Also, there's some great masterminds out there for bigger operators. Rod Khleif has a great one that meets 3x per year. At 3,000 units, 300m AUM and over 90 employees I still get great value by being part of Rod's ecosystem. :)

Post: Did we hit our business plan?

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  • Indianapolis, IN
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@Kyle Bryant good problem to have. We just sold a deal after ~3 years since we hit our year 7 sales price projection. IRR was high and multiple was lower (only 1.7x lol). All investor were happy and re-invested in a new opportunity to offset the tax consequences.

As @Brian Burke pointed out it may be a great time to lock in profits and show an exit on your track record.

All the best!

Post: Best way to invest invest 60k cash

Ivan Barratt
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  • Indianapolis, IN
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@Kumar Gaurav keep your 60k in the bank and continue to grow it. In the meantime; get more educated until YOU know what you should do with money.

Turn Key: BEWARE!!