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All Forum Posts by: Jameson Drew

Jameson Drew has started 6 posts and replied 65 times.

Post: My second (not as easy) multi-unit. Muncie, Indiana

Jameson DrewPosted
  • Investor
  • Los A, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 38
Originally posted by @Karl B.:
Originally posted by @Jameson Drew:
Originally posted by @Karl B.:
Originally posted by @Khalid Hasnaoui:
Originally posted by @Karl B.:
Originally posted by @Alain Perez-Majul:

@Karl B.

He mentioned the list price was 50k, and that he put in a "screw you" bid of less than half. So looks like that's how he got to 20k lol.

 Yes - I read that. I'm wondering how he arrived at that number; if he did any math to arrive at that number or if there were other factors he considered. 

there is no math there.  that's what he felt the property was worth to him. 

most likely that was the only offer on the table and the seller wants out quick. 

i can only dream of something like that in my area.

Let's let the gentleman who authored the blog answer the question as to how he came up with the offer. 

I wanted to pay under $10k per door. Factored in what I saw in the walkthrough, namely an active roof leak and plumbing issues. Kept deducting that from the sales price. The only thing I didnt take into account was the mandatory electrical upgrades that neither the Bank nor its agent were made aware of as neither tried to turn on the electricity while it was an REO. One of those live and learn moments.

 Awesome. Many thanks for the response. It looks like you paid a bit more per door after renovations (due to the meters) but that was unforseen. I am always trying to learn how to calculate a good offer price and so that's why I was curious. 

 And honestly, my mood toward the end of the trip did factor into it.  I had flown out of a big project, and was potentially leaving with nothing.  I was also cold and wet because I tend to buy stuff in the winter when no one else will in Indiana.

Post: My second (not as easy) multi-unit. Muncie, Indiana

Jameson DrewPosted
  • Investor
  • Los A, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 38
Originally posted by @Karl B.:
Originally posted by @Khalid Hasnaoui:
Originally posted by @Karl B.:
Originally posted by @Alain Perez-Majul:

@Karl B.

He mentioned the list price was 50k, and that he put in a "screw you" bid of less than half. So looks like that's how he got to 20k lol.

 Yes - I read that. I'm wondering how he arrived at that number; if he did any math to arrive at that number or if there were other factors he considered. 

there is no math there.  that's what he felt the property was worth to him. 

most likely that was the only offer on the table and the seller wants out quick. 

i can only dream of something like that in my area.

Let's let the gentleman who authored the blog answer the question as to how he came up with the offer. 

I wanted to pay under $10k per door. Factored in what I saw in the walkthrough, namely an active roof leak and plumbing issues. Kept deducting that from the sales price. The only thing I didnt take into account was the mandatory electrical upgrades that neither the Bank nor its agent were made aware of as neither tried to turn on the electricity while it was an REO. One of those live and learn moments.

Post: Realtor in Muncie, Indiana

Jameson DrewPosted
  • Investor
  • Los A, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 38

Ha! Well its a small town.

Post: My second (not as easy) multi-unit. Muncie, Indiana

Jameson DrewPosted
  • Investor
  • Los A, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 38
Originally posted by @Victoria Kemezy:

@Jameson Drew No I actually found the listing in our local paper in the classifies section. It was for sale for through Tucker for awhile asking $10,000 and then went off the market and I offered $1,000 and that I would pay closing costs. Below is a picture of what it first looked like and some time later after renovations.

 Thats awesome.  I always say to my peers that deals are found everywhere, including the local papers.  

Post: My second (not as easy) multi-unit. Muncie, Indiana

Jameson DrewPosted
  • Investor
  • Los A, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 38
Originally posted by @Percy N.:

Jameson Drew , send me more info and proforma along with how much you are looking for on the property.

Who did the rehab? A local contractor or you?

 Complete Property Care, which is a PM/Realtor/contractor in one.

Post: Realtor in Muncie, Indiana

Jameson DrewPosted
  • Investor
  • Los A, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 38

Daniel Norton is who I use and he's awesome.

Post: My second (not as easy) multi-unit. Muncie, Indiana

Jameson DrewPosted
  • Investor
  • Los A, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 38
Originally posted by @Victoria Kemezy:

I love to see people investing in Muncie, IN. I bought a 3-Unit building in downtown Muncie in the historical Emily Kimbrough District for $700 (yeap! you heard right) two years ago. I did all the labor myself with my father and put about $25,000 into it. I now rent one unit for $600 and the two upstairs units when complete will need about $10,000 additional work and am expecting an additional $850 per month from those. I also experienced the same issue with the electric company here in Indiana! Hope to see you invest in Muncie more! 

 How did you manage that? Tax sale?

Post: My second (not as easy) multi-unit. Muncie, Indiana

Jameson DrewPosted
  • Investor
  • Los A, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 38
Originally posted by @Deanna O.:

We get our income from renters, so I'm always curious where they get THEIR income from.  What is there in Muncie that people move there for? A factory? An industry? Is it a bedroom community for somewhere else? Is it the "cheap place" so that those on disability/retirement chose to live there?

 I actually did this research before I bought.  Muncie is an odd duck.  In the early 2000s there was a large auto plant there that shut down.  Obviously it was pretty bad for awhile.  Lately, many more manufacturing companies have started to move into the old warehouses and spaces once occupied by auto manufacturing.  Its a much more diverse economic base than it was a few years back, though it is far from perfect.  There is also Ball State, and a large regional hospital to the northwest.  Nestle has a large manufacturing plant near Anderson.  The rest is a mix of sales and service industries like normal towns.  I have a few tenants that work at the local Walmarts and whatnot.

The local government is pretty pro-active about getting rid of the blight.  Mayor Tyler is extremely approachable and loves having face-to-face conversations with investors.  There is also a brand new training hotel going in downtown and the city has been upgrading its sewer systems the last few years.  Its also a fairly liberal area politically, though its surrounded by a predominantly red state.  Makes for interesting, but functional local politicians.

Post: Getting started in Indianapolis

Jameson DrewPosted
  • Investor
  • Los A, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 38

I do a bit in Delaware County.

Post: My second (not as easy) multi-unit. Muncie, Indiana

Jameson DrewPosted
  • Investor
  • Los A, CA
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 38

Its the Muncie Redevelopment Commission.  I tried to post the link, but it was removed.