All Forum Posts by: Jason Cory
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Post: Newbie with a 12 unit under contract.. Is this a deal?

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I don't know the market in Louisville so I can't comment on the purchase price or return but allow me to give you a thought from an appraisal standpoint.
One bedroom units for MF are the equivalent of 2 bed houses. Both rent higher per foot than a 2 or 3 bed unit or 3 or 4 bed house.
A 1 bed unit is similar to a 2 bed house in terms of functionality & potential pool of tenants. The starter home if you will. As families grow they need more bedrooms. This in turn will do 2 things for you.
1 - give you a single occupant, likely elderly
2 - limit your ability to rent in the event of vacancy.
It is considered functional obsolescence. This is negative/detrimental effect to value.
The sweet spot for MF units is 2 bedroom & 3 bedroom for houses.
Expect issues with the appraised value due to all being 1 bedroom unless the appraiser is a yes man for the bank. If he calls balls & strikes he'll hit it for functional obsolescence because it offers limited utility with no potential value add. Utility is basically what the occupant, owner can do with a property from recreational activities to lot topography to available space with the interior/exterior.
Something to consider prior to investing that amount in something that will always have a ceiling with income & your ability to sell down the road since it will always lag behind the market in terms of appreciation.
Post: Investing Team - References Please??

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Originally posted by @Patrick Hall:
I am a newer REI that has spent the last year doing analysis and preparation to procure some properties out of my current area....Pacific NW...….Investing in this market takes significant capital and provides much smaller return potential over other markets. I am sitting on about 400,000 in capital and have a goal of procuring 20 doors in the next 5 years. My target market is more blue collar stable renter types located in C grade +/- areas. I have looked into MF up to 20 units but again, that is capital resource limited for the most part.
That being said, being a long distance investor, I am looking to put together some great investment oriented people to assist in developing an investment portfolio of lower end SFR's and or Small MF props in Alabama, South Carolina, or Cleveland and am in need of a (1) real estate agent and (2) service provider/contractor for the venture. I am not averse to procuring through wholesalers but will probably pay an agent to be my boots on the ground per se in any wholesale deal as I cannot pop out to wherever every week.
If you know of any of these that are interested in developing a solid relationship for the near or long term, please drop me a note indicating as such.
Thanks in advance and look forward to any insight or input available.
Regards,
Patrick
I have done this extensively in Birmingham. Feel free to search my posts about how to accomplish your goals in Birmingham.
Post: Good, safe rental areas in Birmingham, AL

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Originally posted by @Heath Reid:
-Heath
First, there is no such area that doesn't include bullets. This is Alabama & everyone carries a firearm. Even places like Alabaster have shootings. Centerpoint has gone in the toilet.
Bessemer, where Amazon is being located is the #2 city for crime in the United States. These companies locate where Real Estate is cheap & politicians will give them unheard of incentives thinking it will clean areas up. It never does. See major city crime rates for reference where there is a heavy commercial presence.
I've bought, sold, & rented hundreds of houses in the city limits of Birmingham & never been broken into or had trouble. I've been robbed at gunpoint twice, once in Alabaster & once in Auburn.
If you're buying for cash flow you need to buy in the city where tenants not owners drive demand.
Forget the stigmas & what you've heard. There is no safe investment in Real Estate or investment in general including the stock market.
If you buy to rent in the suburbs you will lose money eventually. Cash flowing $100-200 a month isn't investing spending $100k. Suburbs are flips not rentals. The next downturn will have many investors on BP in a financial crisis with some losing the house they live in because they bought sunshine & rainbows instead of investing the right way in Real Estate.
The areas you referred to as bullets have late 70's to early 80's new car prices buying a house. There is only one direction it can go & it's not down.
Don't buy because you think it's easy. Real Estate is a full time job. Nothing about it is passive. Too much money on the line.
Post: Birmingham Alabama SFH investing

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Here is a post about Birmingham markets by class. I used to appraise & they were defined by market conditions.
In no ways would Eastlake be classified as a C area. They had 84 armed robberies in 2017 compared to 19 for North Birmingham(supposedly our worse area). 4 times the armed robberies equates to a tanking market in Eastlake.
Do your due diligence. One wrong move in Real Estate can cause a domino effect to your entire life.
Post: Looking at cap rates in Birmingham, AL 35204

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Right now you won't make money in the zip code. Every time you renovate in this area the crew will liberate you from the work done/money spent. Get a tax certificate & wait a couple years if you do anything in the area. Buying is outright investing suicide in 35204.
Post: Birmingham Alabama SFH investing

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Originally posted by @John White:
Will you give us an example of good rental areas in Birmingham and a safe way to evaluate?
I have found that local contractors have no rhyme or reason how they estimate repairs.
Any advice you have will be helpful
Anywhere within the city limits has rental demand.
It's likely your contractors aren't estimating correctly because the scope of work is incomplete so they have to guess & build in assumptions because the direction isn't clear.
Contractors are easy if the scope of work is complete.
Post: Birmingham Alabama SFH investing

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Originally posted by @Kevin Tran:
Hi Everyone,
Im looking to invest in SFM (less then $125K, 3Beds) in the Birmingham & surrounding areas.
In my research so far, Birmingham seems to have potentially good cash flow. However, the area has 2x the national average of vacancy (B'mgh 10.89% vs US 5%), also the new delinquent and foreclosure rate is trending up (B'mgh >1600 units).
So my questions are:
1. Are Jefferson and Shelby counties experiencing decline in job growth or population growth.
2. Is the real estate in B'mgh area too invested already, and now some over leveraged investors are getting into trouble?
3. Please share your thoughts on SFH investing in B'mgh area, the good and bad.
Thank you.
Jefferson & Shelby County are still growing
Birmingham data includes a 7 county MSA not just the city limits.
Within the city limits the vacancy is low for SFR.
Investors are over leveraged that have purchased based on the 1% rule. These are the units that have increased the vacancy rate. These investors are in trouble whether or not they have realized it yet.
It's better to purchase within the city limits for a lessor price that to go out of the city. Those are owner occupied areas not rental areas.
Birmingham is still a good place to invest so long as you invest for your goals not because it's easier to get financed/appraised. The appraised value in these areas is for someone to buy & occupy not rent out. Those are 2 completely different appraised values.
If you're buying to rent you should buy in predominantly rental areas.
Feel free to look at other posts I've made. I've harped against buying for the 1% rule since joining BP. That will never change since my background is appraising prior to investing.
Buying for income should only be valued by the income approach in rental areas.
Buying for sale should only be valued by the sales comparison approach in owner occupied areas.
Unfortunately, BP pushes TK for income based on the sales comparison approach. Square peg, round hole. It will always eventually catch up to investors.
Post: FNG from Birmingham AL Alabama

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Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @Jason Cory:
Be gentle about living next door to people that are paying you. Every investor wants space from their tenants because it causes unintended headaches & potential lawsuits. Imagine you fix something & it's not to their satisfaction. Imagine a tenant stops paying & it becomes a tense situation next door. Your family will pass the situation every day.
I would advise you buy & rent a house 1st. One structure, one tenant, one potential issue starting out.
Multi unit could very well overwhelm you starting out.
one thing to keep in mind if you owner occ a duplex 4 plex.. you do not have to adhere to fair housing laws and you can choose your tenants very carefully.. unless city ordinance trumps the federal rules. in the areas were there are no city rules over riding this federal law.. its a nice way to pick your neighbors
Unfortunately Birmingham is the epicenter of the Civil Rights Movement. Needless to say you will have to abide by the local codes that has a zero-tolerance with discrimination
Post: FNG from Birmingham AL Alabama

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Be gentle about living next door to people that are paying you. Every investor wants space from their tenants because it causes unintended headaches & potential lawsuits. Imagine you fix something & it's not to their satisfaction. Imagine a tenant stops paying & it becomes a tense situation next door. Your family will pass the situation every day.
I would advise you buy & rent a house 1st. One structure, one tenant, one potential issue starting out.
Multi unit could very well overwhelm you starting out.
Post: Owned my house for 6 years, some questions about renting it out.

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Originally posted by @William Carr:
Bought the house as a short sale at 260k and it recently got appraised for 320k, Mortgage is $1692. House was built in 84 and is in great shape with new carpets upstairs. My only concern is my ac unit is from 84 and still running good but I know its on its last leg.
Im assuming I would need to fix that first before renting it out but I was just looking for any advice on why it would be good to rent out my house instead of selling for the profit and moving up? Makes me nervous but I have seen people on here say they wished they would have rented out their first house instead of just selling. Since I got this house as a ss foreclosure I figure I am in a good position here.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
From a financial standpoint let's look at the numbers.
Assumption debt is $1,692/monthly
Rent amount $2,500
Add 10% management fee of $250
$2,500
- $1,692
- $250
= $558 cash flow monthly
$558 × 12 = $6,696 annually
$6,696 ÷ $240,000(assuming principal paid from $260k) = 2.79% net return without any maintenance expenses
Horrible return for that level of financial investment
Or
$60,000 to spread out as downpayments
That's 3 $100k houses or 6 $50k houses
$3,000 in rent using the 1% rule for 3 $100k houses (still...horrible return for that level of financial investment)
$4,500 in rent averaging $750 per with 6 $50k houses.
I would much rather have 6 houses than 3 or 1.
If you needed cash in the event of a life emergency it's easier to clear a house for $50k than it is for $100k. You have 5 houses still & able to still cover debt. Sell 1 house with $100k & you're left with 2 while back at break even or losing money.
Real Estate works on 4 year cycles with mid term elections. If a blue wave shows up come November a lot of people on the 1% are going to lose their backside.
Democrats give entitlements. Republicans limit existing entitlements issued by Democrats. Go entitlements when renting. They never go away regardless of who holds the chambers of Congress.
Flip that house & buy 6 houses then rent to Section 8 tenants.
Best of luck to you.