All Forum Posts by: Jay Chang
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Post: 50% rule. Should we use this on small multi family properties?

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Originally posted by @Oleg Brown:
I’m trying to put together my first buy and hold deal somewhere between a single-family residence and a four Plex most likely. I’m using the 50% rule for every property I come across and none of the numbers seem to be working out after I also figure in the debt. Should I be using the 50% rule in every case or is that just left for larger multi family deals? At first I was just thinking the area I’m in just didn’t have any good deals but I want to make sure I’m being fair when figuring a price that makes sense for both parties.
The 50% rule is more accurate for areas where the properties are not as expensive. In areas with expensive properties, like LA and NY, the ratio is more like 40%-45%, and 35% for newer buildings. T-12 is good reference, but try to get a $/unit for each expense. Keep in mind that the $/unit for expenses like maintenance is going to be larger for smaller multifamily buildings, so speak to a property management team to confirm your underwriting before putting the property under contract.
Good luck!!
Post: Creating a real estate brand - is it necessary?

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Originally posted by @Adam Craig:
I am an investor that buys/rents/flips/residential/commercial. I have done 50+ rehabs and hold 30+ rentals so I am at the point where my near future goals are raising more private capital and investing in apartments/commercial.
I am finally moving my home office (due to 2 young children) into a new commercial office building I am purchasing and leasing out the other space. My business name is CLE Real Estate Group which I plan to put on the sign.
Aside from putting my name on the sign, is it worth the time and effort to build a real estate brand? Everything from creating a website, instagram/social media posts, youtube videos ect...
I am certainty not the look at me type on social media. I think its cool when successful wealthy guys go under the radar. The only reason I am considering it is because I have a lot of information and knowledge to create content BUT WOULD IT BENEFIT ME other then feeding an ego? Would it help me find investors or potentially earn income if videos and posts get enough followers?
Is having your name and business as "out there" as possible good? Anyone with experience or not please pitch in.
Not only is it important to have a strong presence on social media, it's also important to have meetups to attract real estate investors. All the successful real estate investors, such as Rod Khleif, Joe Fairless, and Adam A. Adams, use podcasts, meetups, books, blogs, and instagram/facebook.
Good luck!
Post: What is the best month(s) to start or end leases and why?

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- Los Angeles, CA
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Originally posted by @Zac Boelkow:
I have a duplex that both leases are due to renew in November. I am thinking April or June would be better months. April I feel like there is more tax money for people to get in to rentals. June I feel like school is ending and people have the availability for moving...
May through the end of October are the best months for leases. Among these months, end of school is definitely the best time to have leases, so around May to end of June.
The worse time to have leases is around Winter/Holiday. Christmas and NYE time.
Hope this helps :)
Post: Should I withhold from contributing to a 401K for now?

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- Los Angeles, CA
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Jonathan,
I am personally a big fan of Roth due to many tax advantages it provides. You should definitely invest enough money in your 401(k) to take full advantage of your employer's matching contribution. Use Roth 401(k) if you can. Here is my latest blog on 401(k) and IRA. https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/401k-versus-roth-ira-pros-cons
You can use self-direct IRA later on to invest in investment properties if you like. Taking out loans from 401(k) to buy a personal property is also an option.
Post: Real estate investing meetup in Phoenix

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- Los Angeles, CA
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Originally posted by @Colton Wiggs:
Are there any meetup groups in Phoenix Az?
Colton,
Checkout multifamilymasters on meetup.com. We are a national-wide meetup group and have a chapter in Phoenix. As you can already tell based on the name of our meetup, we focus primarily on multifamily. If you're buying only office or retail properties, it's still a great meetup to go to, because a lot of the skills and connections you acquire at our meetup can be transferred to other property types. We often invite professionals like syndication lawyers or market study specialists to speak at our events. Our mission is to provide value and education to investors. NO Sales pitches!
If you go, say hi to my buddies Gary and Kyle. I co-host the Downtown LA meetup with Gary.
Post: Los Angeles (South Bay), CA Multifamily

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- Los Angeles, CA
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Originally posted by @Kyle Marcs:
Hello BP community,
I am very new on my real estate journey. I don't have any experience in this field; so I am starting off with learning as much information that I can and also looking to network with seasoned REI and others in the real estate field. I have recently finished reading 'The book on Rental Property Investing"by Brandon Turner and I absolutely loved it; that lead me to the BP podcast and now I have joined the BP forum,with that being said I am extremely excited & motivated about this new path I have chosen. I'm originally from New York and fairly new to LA, I currently live in the Valley but my plan is to invest in the south bay area mainly because of all the new up and coming projects I have heard about. If you know of other areas I am open to hearing about it. I am currently working on coming up with the rest of the down payment 50k (about 20k short), raising my credit score to 750(50 points short) and lowing my DTI ratio. I plan to start with a Duplex possibly a Triplex depending on pricing. I am eager to start so I plan to purchase January 2020 (I work best under pressure). Very interested in advice/comments, I look forward to speaking with you guys.
Thanks in advance
Kyle M.
Kyle,
Good to hear that you're really getting into real estate. Los Angeles is a really great market for real estate. I am very optimistic about Los Angeles in the long term; however, I think the market is very expensive right now. I don't want to discourage you, but I don't think you'll find anything that will cash flow (in other words, your net cash after debt service) in this market. To get a positive return, you will have to rely pretty much 100% on the value appreciation. In my opinion, this is a very risky investment, unless you are an experienced investor doing a quick flip in the area.
The three most important strategies in minimizing risk is:
1. Cash flow from Day 1
2. Secure Long Term Financing
3. Maintain a healthy capital reserve
Imagine you buy an expensive duplex in LA right now, and the market crashed 30% next year. How will this impact your investment? If you have sufficient capital reserve, then you can sustain the monthly debt service, but what if your term is coming due and the bank wants you to repay the loan? Do you have sufficient capital reserve to pay off the bank? In this case, you may lose your equity in the house.
Alternatively, I'd suggest you look for other types of investments or simply hold on to cash and wait for the market downturn. It's hard to be patient, but it can be rewarding.
Above is just my opinion. I could be completely wrong, so I'd love to hear other people's opinions!
Post: Investing outside of California

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Originally posted by @Jerry Akop:
I am currently only investing in California specifically in Los Angeles since I’m not familiar with anything outside of this area and I’m looking into four Plex and higher in great communities in any state. any recommendations or if anybody owns anything in specific cities that would recommend it, that would be awesome information thank you.
Hi Jerry,
I also live in Los Angeles, and I do ground-up developments full time. Have you heard of MultifamilyMasters? It's a great meetup for investors looking to invest in multifamily nationally. I look at deals in Phoenix and I host the DTLA meetup. Hope to connect with you in person sometime!
Post: Los Angeles Investors, how do you do it?

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- Los Angeles, CA
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Originally posted by @Grant Gordon:
@Jay Chang I'm curious about these meetups. Any leads would be appreciated. Thanks!
Check out MultifamilyMasters We have different chapters throughout the nation. I host the one in DTLA. Our next meeting is on 9/18 at the WeWork @ Fine Arts Building. We meet every third wednesday of the month!
Post: Los Angeles Investors, how do you do it?

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- Los Angeles, CA
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Investing in LA is tough. The uncertainty in rent control and the unfriendly laws for landlords aren't helping very much.
Have you thought about investing out of state? There are meetups in LA for people who are interested in investing multifamily properties in other states.
Post: MultifamilyMasters.com - Downtown LA Chapter

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The meetup event page:
https://www.meetup.com/MultiFamilyMasters/events/263457928/