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All Forum Posts by: John Fortes

John Fortes has started 58 posts and replied 580 times.

Post: Newbies & Apartment Investing

John Fortes
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  • Multi-Family Syndicator
  • Abington, MA
  • Posts 603
  • Votes 347
Originally posted by @Ronald Gladden:

@John Fortes Boom! Appreciate the tips John. Pulling a little from everyone. With every reply I have been able to pull something from it. Thank you. 

 Learn, apply, and grow! 

Post: Newbies & Apartment Investing

John Fortes
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  • Multi-Family Syndicator
  • Abington, MA
  • Posts 603
  • Votes 347

We all have to start somewhere. Here are some tips. 

1. Educate yourself! This is going to be what you do for the rest of your life as you constantly tweak and insert what you learned into action.

2. Analyze as many deals as possible. Keep reviewing and learning how to spot a good deal from a bad deal.

3. Connect with like minded people.

4. Talk about real estate! Be vocal and intentional with your conversations. You never know who is interested and needs help. Since you have educated yourself and analyzed deals, great chance to partner with a money partner on that front.

5. Raise money for your own deals.

6. Find deals for others. Also known as bird dogging.

7. Invest in someone else's deal or syndication. Learn from the process and get involved someway, somehow. This allows you to earn while you learn by investing passively in their deal.

8. Find a mentor and volunteer to help them for free. Add value to someone else for free education and building a friendship/relationship.

9. Write a blog, start a podcast, start a YouTube channel, or do all 3.

10. Be active on your social media platforms and create your own brand.

These are not step by step processes. Just guidelines to help you get to your end goal. 1, 2, and 3 are crucial but everything else tackle it in your own way and process. Just do it. Hope this helps, good luck, and God bless!

Post: Multifamily family location

John Fortes
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  • Multi-Family Syndicator
  • Abington, MA
  • Posts 603
  • Votes 347

Selecting a market is all your preference. Ask yourself, where do you want to invest, how is the market analysis, job growth, and population... There are many other factors as well. 

Post: Turnkey Investment Experience/Tips

John Fortes
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  • Multi-Family Syndicator
  • Abington, MA
  • Posts 603
  • Votes 347

Benefits of turnkey are the obvious, ready to go and no maintenance. Are you managing or hiring a property management company to manage the investment. This then, makes you manage the manager. 

Cons is no value add play and appreciation is on the paydown of each payment. Then you have trapped equity but you can't improve the investment so you are playing with house money when you close. Just make sure your not looking to try to refinance that down-payment funds back out for quite some time. 

Post: Not sure where to start...

John Fortes
Posted
  • Multi-Family Syndicator
  • Abington, MA
  • Posts 603
  • Votes 347

Steps to take

1. Educate yourself! This is going to be what you do for the rest of your life as you constantly tweak and insert what you learned into action.

2. Analyze as many deals as possible. Keep reviewing and learning how to spot a good deal from a bad deal.

3. Connect with like minded people.

4. Talk about real estate! Be vocal and intentional with your conversations. You never know who is interested and needs help. Since you have educated yourself and analyzed deals, great chance to partner with a money partner on that front.

5. Raise money for your own deals.

6. Find deals for others. Also known as bird dogging.

7. Invest in someone else's deal or syndication. Learn from the process and get involved someway, somehow. This allows you to earn while you learn by investing passively in their deal.

8. Find a mentor and volunteer to help them for free. Add value to someone else for free education and building a friendship/relationship.

9. Write a blog, start a podcast, start a YouTube channel, or do all 3.

10. Be active on your social media platforms and create your own brand.

These are not step by step processes. Just guidelines to help you get to your end goal. 1, 2, and 3 are crucial but everything else tackle it in your own way and process. Just do it. Hope this helps, good luck, and God bless!

Post: What is a standard waterfall structure payback(LP paid first etc)

John Fortes
Posted
  • Multi-Family Syndicator
  • Abington, MA
  • Posts 603
  • Votes 347
Originally posted by @Anders Jax:

@John Fortes

Im setting up a GP friend with some LP friends. So my reputation is in the middle here. And I want everyone to get a good deal. And I hounded the GP to propose terms sooner rather than trying to leave it to the end. Then they come out with some wild structure like

7% pref

7-11% 50/50

11-17% 75/25 in GP favor

+17%- 90/10 in GP favor

In order to hit a 20% target IRR for an opportunistic new build hotel, the property would need to cash flow $700k a year on a $1m investment (pffff) then sell for $8.8m net of debt at the end of 6 years.

I am trying to talk them off this structure, because they will not find a sane investor to take that. And we could all make a killing, but I will never propose that structure to an LP.

 I would ask how he got to that assessment. Ask him to show you visually and see if you can make sense of it. Ground up is a different animal as returns are definitely delayed because there is no income coming in during construction and if you are an investor in this deal what would it take for you to jump in knowing the returns will come later. GP seems to eat during the hold period and then everyone cash's out at the end. Investors want to see the velocity of their return. How fast is my money coming back to me?

Outside of that, consider your reputation on this. If you decide to walk and don't bring in your investors, you hold your investors interest over your own.

Post: What is a standard waterfall structure payback(LP paid first etc)

John Fortes
Posted
  • Multi-Family Syndicator
  • Abington, MA
  • Posts 603
  • Votes 347

If you're trying to understand the structure then its based off the sponsor providing the deal. Everyone is different in how they run it. 

If you're looking at the structure to determine if your going to invest then you are probably looking for reasons not to invest in the deal. If the opportunity is going to make you the returns and hit your goals and you trust the sponsor then focus on your target numbers in your seeking returns. 

Post: New dentist: balance between paying student loans & beginning REI

John Fortes
Posted
  • Multi-Family Syndicator
  • Abington, MA
  • Posts 603
  • Votes 347

Congrats on your profession and moving forward in your space. 

If you could find investments with others that produce more in returns that can help cover your student loan payments and pay it down more then do it. Invest in a opportunity where it could pay you to pay your loans. 

Post: Selling the Numbers to Private Investors

John Fortes
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  • Multi-Family Syndicator
  • Abington, MA
  • Posts 603
  • Votes 347

Sounds like a JV opportunity as you pointed out its 1 investor. See what numbers would make for a good return for them and provide them that with an equity split as you are managing... Don't know what the numbers reflect but if they are bringing the capital and you are doing the work, 50/50 is a starting point. Till you build up more of an investor pool, I wouldn't consider syndication at this time.

Post: Police damage property to extract burglar

John Fortes
Posted
  • Multi-Family Syndicator
  • Abington, MA
  • Posts 603
  • Votes 347

Hope all is well. I understand your frustration during these times. Are you self managing this property and have a property manager for the out of state? Why not look for a local PM to handle the current one that's been the issue?

In the event that you do sell, consider investing in syndications or buy again next to your current out of state. Plenty of ways to get your investment through real estate either hands on or hands off. Stay the course if you can.