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All Forum Posts by: Jeff Chisum

Jeff Chisum has started 7 posts and replied 197 times.

Post: Second home loan or investment property loan?

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Talking to the wrong lender if they tell you rates on investment property and second home loans are the same. 10% down, lower rates, friendly towards STR. Second home is the way to go!

Post: 10% down rates going down

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Seeing some good movement down on the 10% down second home/STR occupancy loan

Post: Best way to finance my first investment/short term rental

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Hey David.  Happy to help!  Yes the fact that the historic or estimated income can not be used can be limiting for some.  If you can get that first one under your belt you can use the income after a year then move on to do another.  Fannie and Freddie allow one individual to have ten mortgages in their name.  
A DSCR loan doesn't look at individual income. 90% of the approval is based on historic or market data that shows the property will perform at a 1:1 ratio. PITI vs Gross Rent. 20% down on that loan.

Post: 10% Down Vacation Home/STR financing not going anywhere

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Depends if you are looking to buy in the same otherwise.  There are no rules around the mix of mortgage products that you have in your personal name.  The limit is ten.  

Post: 10% Down Vacation Home/STR financing not going anywhere

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Subjective interpretation of the policy. All comes down to availability and control. Fannie modernized the policy to reflect was going on in this space. They are in the business of performing loans. They loved fully qualifying borrowers could supplement that ability with STR income.

Post: 10% Down Vacation Home/STR financing not going anywhere

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Originally posted by @Steve Sauro:

Hey Jeff -  

With 10% down are you stuck with PMI? Or did you get a second to cover?

Because it's an owner occupied product the rate is really low- typically .2-.24% of the loan amount. After two years you can have it reappraised to get rid of PMI. Better option than paying 5% on a second

Post: 10% Down Vacation Home/STR financing not going anywhere

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Fannie Mae will allow an individual to have 10 mortgages in their name. Nothing to say those couldn't be all second home occupancy loans. I have the ability to do an additional 5 DSCR loans in the name of an LLC.

Post: 10% Down Vacation Home/STR financing not going anywhere

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Originally posted by @Matt Ternullo:

The requirements I read said it cannot have any agreements that put another company in control of occupancy, does that mean it can't be put in a property managers hands even if you occupy it at some point in time? Or just not before the sale can said agreements not be entered in to?


I have yet to come across a property management agreement that required the owner to make the property available “x” amount of days a year or they would be in breach of contract.  So not an issue.  Same with listing it on Airbnb or VRBO.  Those sites do not facilitate legal lease agreements.  So good there too

Post: 10% Down Vacation Home/STR financing not going anywhere

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Originally posted by @Cole Britting:

@Jeff Chisum Thank you for the clarification! What are the occupancy rules for using the second home loan? I’ve heard it’s either 14 days or 10% of the days you rent it for.

“At some point during the year”. The 14 days and 10% of days…is all tied to business vs personal IRS 

Post: 10% Down Vacation Home/STR financing not going anywhere

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Originally posted by @Cole Britting:

@Jeff Chisum From what I heard from a lender, they are going to be getting much more expensive rendering them almost obsolete. Is that true?

I'd love to own a lake house some day, congrats on the purchase!

 Thanks Cole!  We love it there and own another home on a golf course about 20 minutes from the lake house.  

Far from the truth.  I visit with about 100 clients a month consulting on financing strategies around this asset class.  90% are surprised when I tell them the second home occupancy loan rates are similar to what you would get on a primary.  Now rates will be similar to what is currently available for investment property loans.  Still 10% down on a property that will out perform a LTR in cashflow and appreciation.  I'm fine with the rate.  Would I rather have it lower...sure.  Obsolete...not even close.