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All Forum Posts by: Jeff Parkin

Jeff Parkin has started 3 posts and replied 36 times.

Post: Newbie investor interested in sub 30k markets

Jeff Parkin
Posted
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Ian Barnes:

We do all of our business in Baltimore County and City.  For the rental side, we buy properties between 20k-40k, gut them, and put 20k-30k rehabbing them.  Baltimore is not for the faint of heart and unless you know someone on the ground that knows the city, I would not invest in it if you don't live near it as its a block by block city, that's why institutions have never invested there for sfh. There have been 263 murders in the city this year, there's only 600k people in the city.  Good thing is high risk, high reward.

One of the reasons I've looked at the Baltimore City area is exactly what you said, "high risk, high reward." That said, I don't currently have anyone on the ground there, but if I were to move forward I plan to spend some time there (maybe a month or more), learning the city, and establishing a team to be sure any move I make is prudent. I still have a lot of research and learning to do, but if that becomes the case I'd love to talk to you further! 

Post: Newbie investor interested in sub 30k markets

Jeff Parkin
Posted
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Christine Kankowski:

Just a thought:  Fir a 30K property, you have to pay all cash, since I have not found a lender to loan on properties that small.  however, you can take that same 30K as a down payment on a $110K home and make excellent cash flow, have good tenants who will stay a while, and have better jobs than those living in a 30K place. 

I personally own several in the 30K range, but have steadily moved to the higher end homes, specifically due to what the people prior have said:  fewer evictions, better care and maintenance of the property.  In the under 30K range, one car breaking down, or one large medical bill may force the tenants to not be able to pay their rent. 

On that note, the cash flow is very good if you do in fact have a good tenant, etc.   So, if you are looking for a fixed-up house to buy with a tenant already in place, I do have one for sale.  Really.

Thanks, and best of luck to you!! Christine

The 30k down on a 110k property sounds great in theory, but unfortunately due to my current employment (1099'd independent contractor) and poor credit (had to close a small business a few years ago as a result of the recession) I don't qualify for traditional financing at this time. So I either have to be a cash buyer or get creative with financing, but the later will drastically cut into cash flow! For this reason, I've gravitated toward the sub 30k market. If you were in my shoes, what would you do?  

Post: Newbie investor interested in sub 30k markets

Jeff Parkin
Posted
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Gonz Trevino:

Just throwing my hat in the fray. I know many have said that and I would strongly suggest putting a lot of research into buying 30k houses. They can be more trouble than they're worth usually! 

I would encourage you to specifically calculate your cost of capital expenditures over time. Good luck my friend!

Thanks, Gonz! Yeah I'm definitely trying to learn as much as I can before making my first move! The problem I'm having is that due to my credit and employment as a 1099'd independent contractor, I'm limited to the cash I have on hand if I want to begin my portfolio as a buy & hold investor. That is, unless I wait until I have more capital. As suggested by other members, I am researching notes and other avenues as well. Any suggestions?

Post: Newbie investor interested in sub 30k markets

Jeff Parkin
Posted
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Kathy Stewart:

Welcome Jeff. I also live in Ca.(Bay Area) however my investments are in Dallas, now expanding to other Texas markets in multi-family. Let me know if you would like to set time for a call.
Kathy

Thank you, Kathy! I initially did some research in Austin because I have a friend there but I didn't see it as a viable option at my current price point. I'll admit that I don't know much about other markets in Texas but am not opposed to the idea of doing deals there. At this point I'm still in the learning phase, but I would like to talk to you in the near future. Thanks for reaching out, I'll be in touch!

Post: Newbie investor interested in sub 30k markets

Jeff Parkin
Posted
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 19

@Mark Brogan Thanks, Mark! I'm loving this site as a resource! Finally got my shipment of books from Amazon and I'm almost done with Brandon's book and have several others I'm excited to read. And the podcasts have become my new favorite way to spend time in the car! Thanks for the vote of confidence, I really appreciate it!

Post: Newbie investor interested in sub 30k markets

Jeff Parkin
Posted
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 19

@Anthony Davis Thanks for all the info, Anthony! I'm definitely in the learning phase and soaking up as much information as I can. Much appreciated! You mentioned North Carolina, and that's a market I haven't looked into too much but I do have some family there so I'll keep that in mind. Do you have any suggestions as to what cities would be good to look at there? Thanks again!

Post: Newbie investor interested in sub 30k markets

Jeff Parkin
Posted
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 19

@Rhett Tullis Thanks for all your comments both to me as well as in response to others who have responded as well! I haven't been scared away from sub 30k properties just yet. I'd love to talk to you more regarding both property mgmt. as well as your insights for how someone like me could make the out of state REI business model work.

@Jay Hinrichs You bring up some very valid points, and I did do some reading up on non-performing notes today. I'm intrigued and will continue to do more research there. Regarding investing in rentals, in my particular situation, an "undercapitalized investor" as you put it (which i'm not disagreeing with. I wish I had more capital to get started with but I just don't), what would you suggest my best course of action to be? As a reminder, I have 28k, live in Orange County CA, have a low credit score (that I'm working to clean up), but even if it were higher I still don't qualify for traditional financing as I'm currently self-employed. After taxes my annual adj. gross income is next to nothing. I did manage to save that 28k in a little over a years time and will continue to save at a rate of approx. 1800/mo. 

@Account Closed I completely agree with regard to the importance of management! I'm wondering do you come across many out of state investors who currently have Baltimore properties in their portfolio? I'd love to get their perspective. 

Post: Newbie investor interested in sub 30k markets

Jeff Parkin
Posted
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Jeff Parkin  are you going to relocate to those markets? then invest

or are you going to try to stay in Socal and buy these and be a cross country landlord.?

sub 30k can work for those that live there and stay on top of them like a hawk

the feel good part is fine in theory until your unit gets trashed.

So depends on where your going ot live... you do this from across the country and you stand at least a 50% chance of losing money and significant money.. 30k rentals homes if that's what your paying for them rent ready.. trade as pre rehab about 3 to 5k per house. that's what your property will be worth if you are unlucky and get a tenant that trash's it.

so your savings is gone and never coming back.

Personally buying non appreciating tough to manage assets is the last thing I think someone in your position should do.. you don't make a enough money at it to make it even remotely worth the risk in my mind..

As for alternatives. I would put time and energy into learning about notes.  I would follow some of the crowd funding portals that will start to allow non accrediteds and then be choosy as to who you invest with.. I would look at more of fix and flip type transactions to get you nest egg built up..

buying low end rentals can be good I have clients that I fund in this space that own hundreds of them.. But that's the operative word hundreds of them.. to only own one or two in my mind is as the end of the day going to bust your RE bubble.

Thanks for your comments, Jay! No, not relocating. But my current job does allow me the flexibility of being able to take spontaneous and/or longer planned trips. If I do go the sub 30k route, I wouldn't just be doing a couple properties. I'd be going all in and expanding my portfolio each year with as many properties as possible. Regarding note buying, I'll admit that I don't know a lot about that business model, but I'll definitely look into it as a possibility. At this point I'm not going to close my mind to the possibility of anything and after weighing all my options will make the choice that suits me best. Not to say that if I don't do something now, that I may not do it later. But I will try making the most informed decisions possible and appreciate your comments and concerns! Much appreciated!

Post: Newbie investor interested in sub 30k markets

Jeff Parkin
Posted
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Anthony Alexander:

Greetings Jeff, If you have good property management there are plenty opportunities in Baltimore city. It may be hard being though your all the way in Cali managing the contractors.

Thanks Anthony! Being an out of state investor will definitely have its challenges I'm sure! Assembling a great team, including PM will be a must! I've been looking at Baltimore City a lot! I'm drawn to the row houses for some reason, haha! And from what I've heard, the payouts can be great if it's the right property. With the flexibility of my current job, I would try to time it right so i could be there during the rehab. 

Post: Newbie investor interested in sub 30k markets

Jeff Parkin
Posted
  • Laguna Niguel, CA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Marci Wilson:

You could also partner with another investor & Use private money as long as you both have something to bring to the table to make it happen. It's a place to start. You have some money, credit isn't necessary and they are doing rehab loans in California. Just a thought.

The partner thing intrigues me as well as scares me a little, but I think thats because I'm still a newbie. To clarify, when you say that "credit isn't necessary" do you mean the potential partner bringing their good credit to the table? Or are the rehab loans you mention more forgiving when it comes to credit?