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All Forum Posts by: Jennie Berger

Jennie Berger has started 18 posts and replied 311 times.

Post: What's fair / the going rate for a Fiduciary?

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Originally posted by @Bill Hampton:

Jennie, 

Many financial planners charge an annual or monthly fee for advice only. This amount will vary. 

Some financial planners charge for selecting and managing your investments. The normal fee for assets under management (AUM) is one percent. 1.5% is on the high end. 

You have to decide if you want advice and/or investment management. 

I recommend finding a financial advisor that specializes in working with real estate investors. You may want to consider working with your advisor remotely to expand your options.

I would also recommend looking for an advisor who is willing to work with you throughout the year. You want an advisor that can help you strategize and who is responsive when you want to know the consequences of the financial decisions you are making throughout the year.

You should also look for a Fee-only advisor who is not going to sell you products and/or try get a commission. 

Good luck and let me know if I can be of assistance.

Thanks so much for your advice. He would be fee only. 1.5% of AUM taken out quarterly. I would be working with him throughout the year. I definitely want advice and active management because I don't have the time or know-how myself. I've been working with an FA for the last 3 years with Merrill/BofA and I'm just looking to expand my financial planning horizons since that institution is limited in what it can offer.

This new person would not be limited by institutional offerings as we'd be working through a company like Schwab or similar to hold the assets but they'd be actively managed by him and his colleague regularly.

As for financial advisors that work specifically with real estate investors--do you have anyone you recommend? Feel free to PM me. Thanks!

Post: What's fair / the going rate for a Fiduciary?

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Originally posted by @Michael Metzger:

@jennie

A couple of questions and things you might want to consider. What are you defining as a Fiduciary? Is it that they are a Certified Financial Planner? Or did that institution just say it? Unfortunately that word is being miscommunicated and used a lot.

Also, for the fee, is it 1.5% on money they manage? 1.5% of income? net worth? It makes a difference. And what comes with that?

You ideally want a fiduciary financial planner that not only provides investment management, but year-round proactive planning that helps you reduce your taxes, increase cash flow, protect your liabilities, etc. Those services should be included if it’s truly “fee only” and some other planners charge a flat monthly or yearly rate.

What sounds expensive depends on what that institution is providing for you. If they also help you save $5k-$10k a year in taxes and increase your investment assets by x dollars- well then thats a pretty great deal.

Does that make sense?

Thanks for your insight! It would be 1.5% per year of total AUM taken out quarterly. My brokerage accounts basically. He is an actual fiduciary however I didn't think to ask him about the tax and cash flow items. We would definitely stay in touch year round and my portfolio would be very actively managed and rebalanced on the regular, as needed. They would also advise on other products I can utilize to help me achieve my financial/larger lifetime goals (such as insurance policies, annuities, products that offer guaranteed lifetime income, etc.) I didn't realize a fiduciary for these types of things would also provide tax advice. Is that standard? 

Post: What's fair / the going rate for a Fiduciary?

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Hi Y'all:

We're in the stages of possibly transitioning away from our financial advisor at a large institution to a third party custodian and hiring a true Fiduciary. The one I'm considering right now is fee based only and asking for 1.5%/year. It feels a little high to me, but I truly don't know what's fair, or what the going rate is. I know that they make money only when we make money, so they have a vested interest in doing well. Do you have any thoughts on this?

Thanks in advance!

-Jennie 

Post: Too many studios? Opinions wanted!

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@David Levin Where in Chicago? I know downtown (North of the River, Loop, South Loop), studios are huge. They will always be in demand (as far as I'm concerned) because there will always be students, single people, and even young couples who want to live where the action is and don't want to (or can't) spend a fortune on living quarters. We rent in a small high rise in South Loop right now--2 bed/2 bath--and our building is at about 90% capacity on studio and 1 bed units. They're struggling to rent out the 2 bed/2 baths...

Post: Chicago LIVE Meetup?

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I am IN! Love the continued connections via Zoom but it's just not the same as meeting someone in real life. We live in South Loop and our properties are on the NW side of Chicago. So, anywhere that is within a 20-25 min drive would be OK for me. (Not that you have to book a location around us...just an FYI. ;) Thanks for suggesting this!

Post: Hey What’s a Rough Estimate To Finish my 3Flat Rehab In chicago

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@Nathan Orta I'm with @Eric M. on this one. Any reason you wouldn't have a qualified contractor (or 2 or 3) give you some estimates? Their numbers are usually ballparks as well, until they nail down every single element with their own subs. But I believe they'll be a lot more accurate than us just tossing numbers around here...

Post: Real Estate Brokerages: Chicago (New to BiggerPockets!)

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@Taylor Repp 

So great to 'meet' you here and congrats on getting started! I'm in the process of getting my brokers license with the same intention as you. I don't plan to buy or sell real estate for clients. Rather, to be able to wholesale legally in IL and list my own flips to save a boatload on commission. I've not looked into them thoroughly so I'm not necessarily recommedning them, but I've heard a lot of positives about eXp. Have you heard of them? They might be just the type of entity you are looking for. I plan to do some more due diligence as I get closer to the end of my studies. Not sure how much support and training they offer, and as you mentioned above, that might be important to you... 

Best of luck and please keep this thread updated with your progress and whomever you ultimately choose to hang your license with! :)

-Jennie

Post: Hey What’s a Rough Estimate To Finish my 3Flat Rehab In chicago

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@Nathan Orta Do you have a SOW or more details about what you're planning to do to complete this? That might help for a ballpark estimate...

Post: New Member - Coaching for 10K,20K,30K ?

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@Derrick Hoffman How wonderful that you are open to and considering multiple avenues to further your education! 

I am a BIG believer in not only looking at the cost of any investment, but the return. When universities tell a parent their child's education is going to cost $50,000/year, they don't flinch. Most people don't think twice about whether or not the education at a traditional college is worth it. Yet, many people end up going to college (for the sake of going to college) to emerge with a degree in one hand, and a whole slew of debt and lack of direction in the other. 

I'm a huge advocate of coaching & mentoring programs WHEN they provide value, inspire and encourage me, and align with my goals. I'm not saying you should go spend 20, 30, 50, 100k on a coaching program. But the cost is 'somewhat' irrelevant to me as long as I know that the return can be multiples of that investment AS LONG AS I implement the tools & systems provided and KEEP GOING.

One key thing you mentioned about the seminar you attended that immediately raises a red flag: "The whole seminar used emotional tools to lead you to believe you will never be successful without them and was fairly off putting to me." That is off-putting to me as well. Any successful and worthwhile (IMO) education, coaching, or mentorship program would not be preaching or insinuating that. Are they trying to turn you off? I know that I am more likely to succeed if I surround myself with those who are successful and align with my core values. But I don't need you, or them, or anyone telling me that I will NEVER be successful WITHOUT them. That's just plain crap.

-Jennie

Welcome Charles! I wrote a post here on Bigger Pockets that may provide some value to you. Feel free to check it out. https://www.biggerpockets.com/...