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All Forum Posts by: Jeremy England

Jeremy England has started 21 posts and replied 278 times.

Post: Average Home Builder Commission?

Jeremy EnglandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 281
  • Votes 142
Quote from @Mike Smith:

@Account Closed That's a good question.  My opinion is pretty close to @Jeremy England and @Bruce Woodruff.  I don't share the opinion of @Scott Mac but there are many builders that do.

There are two different ways to build homes cost structure and thus two different markups.

1. Cost plus - markup is typically between 10% and 20%, as the builder doesn't have the risk of price volatility with materials and labor, or the risk of mistakes in estimating.  It's closer to 10% on very large projects and when the housing market is down.  It's closer to 20% on smaller projects or when the housing market is hot.

2. Fixed price - builders normally estimate in more markup because they are absorbing the risk of rising prices and mistakes in estimating.  The gross markup is closer to 25% on average, but remember builders overhead typically runs between 15-20%, so they are hoping to net profit 5-10%.

I normally always recommend fixed price contracts, otherwise the builder has not incentive to try to reduce material and labor costs.  Cost plus contracts usually only happen for projects that are very difficult to define an accurate specification sheet ahead of time.  For example,  building a 5m cabin in Jackson, Wyoming on a sloped lot.


 I partnered with an investor group back when i was building and did a few homes. It was a 50/50 split of the profits. Cost plus contract. Back then typical profits were in the 45k-50k  per house range.  For around 2000 sf homes in south alabama. Builds took from 4-5 months on average. Built 3 houses at once. So when the houses sold it was a good payday.  No money in between however.  Took some finesse to not get paid for 6 months or so.  

Post: Average Home Builder Commission?

Jeremy EnglandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 281
  • Votes 142
Quote from @Sebastian Marroquin:

The other way would be for you to get your own subs and do a an owner build. (much riskier but you could do it for 75% the price above). 


 At least in the 2 states ive built homes in an owner builder could only build his personal residence.  Not investment property or second home

Post: Average Home Builder Commission?

Jeremy EnglandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 281
  • Votes 142
Quote from @Scott Mac:
Quote from @Mike Smith:

@Account Closed That's a good question.  My opinion is pretty close to @Jeremy England and @Bruce Woodruff.  I don't share the opinion of @Scott Mac but there are many builders that do.

There are two different ways to build homes cost structure and thus two different markups.

1. Cost plus - markup is typically between 10% and 20%, as the builder doesn't have the risk of price volatility with materials and labor, or the risk of mistakes in estimating.  It's closer to 10% on very large projects and when the housing market is down.  It's closer to 20% on smaller projects or when the housing market is hot.

2. Fixed price - builders normally estimate in more markup because they are absorbing the risk of rising prices and mistakes in estimating.  The gross markup is closer to 25% on average, but remember builders overhead typically runs between 15-20%, so they are hoping to net profit 5-10%.

I normally always recommend fixed price contracts, otherwise the builder has not incentive to try to reduce material and labor costs.  Cost plus contracts usually only happen for projects that are very difficult to define an accurate specification sheet ahead of time.  For example,  building a 5m cabin in Jackson, Wyoming on a sloped lot.


 So if your cost plus is $85,000 and the current market is $345,000 you sell for $85k and let the next guy (a flipper sell for $345k) (????)

You do not sell what you build at market prices (???)


 Cost on a 345k house would never be 85.  And it alL depends. Who owns the lot?  If the builder doesnt own it well its not his to sell.  You are paying the builder for his time and expertise. Thats all on a cost plus contract

Post: Average Home Builder Commission?

Jeremy EnglandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 281
  • Votes 142

Ive actually been thinking of getting licensed again to build my own small multifamily rentals.  And pull permits for my own rehabs

Post: Average Home Builder Commission?

Jeremy EnglandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 281
  • Votes 142

It varies.  I was a builder from 2005-2008 and it depended on how much i was risking.  If it was a cost plus contract. I would tack on between 12 and 15 pct depending on the customer.  If it was a fixed price contracT i woulD estimate high and also figure for a bigger profit margin

Post: Reducing tax liability with f/t work and one rental property

Jeremy EnglandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 281
  • Votes 142

Good morning all, so I recently did my taxes. I used Turbo tax deluxe. Anyway, it was a good year money wise. Better than usual obviously because we owe the IRS about 2800 dollars. I have 1 rental property and believe I have maxed out the write offs I can take without just flat out making them up. I had almost no expenses from the property this past year. I manage it myself, rehabbed it back in 2018. Advertising is free, software I use is free, computers I use are personal and prof use. I have an LLC specifically for the rental property.

Anyway, my net income from the property according to TT is -600, this is after depreciation and write offs.  

I decided to play with the numbers on TT to see if I could reduce my tax liability.  I wanted to see If I did any capital expenditures how much that would influence my bottom line.  The AC in my rental is pretty old.  Installed in 06, so I figured if I spent 3000 on that, what would it do.  My tax liability decreased by 500.  So I would "save" 500 on taxes if I spent 3000 on an AC.  

I've heard of retirement accounts for self employed people. I've maxed my IRA and 401k this year. But isn't there one where you can contribute like 50k or some ridiculous amount. Would that reduce my overall tax liability?

Thanks

Post: Excess inventory in the near future

Jeremy EnglandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 281
  • Votes 142

https://www.washingtonpost.com...

This article highlights how millenials are not buying property like their parents did. In certain markets this could mean an excessive inventory of housing.  

Prices will take a hit in some markets.  What will this do for rental rates?  I didnt own any rentals back in 08 when the market crashed so i have no idea.

It makes me think about asset allocation in the next 15 or so years

Post: Can I invest my IRA and/or Roth IRA funds in real estate?

Jeremy EnglandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 281
  • Votes 142
Originally posted by @Nathan Shankles:

@Jeremy England thanks Jeremy! Ok, rookie question - where would I go to lend that money out?

 You need to set up an sdira and roll the funds into that. I havent done it but there are several recs on this forum. Just do a search

Post: 401k vs Invest in real estate for early retirement?

Jeremy EnglandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 281
  • Votes 142

I've been maxing my 401k for the past 8 years.  Did the match for the previous 3 years.

When one considers the match, and the market gains in the total ROI. Right now I have about a 145pct ROI.

If you want to compare that with a REI, if you plan on BRRRR the property, then your ROI will be much greater. However, Risk is higher as well. If you lose on a REI, your losses tend to be larger.

I look at my 401k as my "low risk" investing (even though its entirely in common stock funds).  I'm comfortable with a great deal of risk.  Plus I look at market dips as means to purchase more with my money.  


I've managed to get this far with maxing the 401k and rei at the same time so my advice is to do similar

Post: My first Investment Property!

Jeremy EnglandPosted
  • Contractor
  • Pensacola, FL
  • Posts 281
  • Votes 142

Knocked it out of the park, what are you? like 23?  You'll be rich by 30 keeping this up