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All Forum Posts by: Joe S.

Joe S. has started 347 posts and replied 3488 times.

Post: How To Find & Structure Owner Financing Deals

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Originally posted by @Paris Johns:

I’m new to real estate investing and I’m looking to buy my first rental property using owner financing so I have to come out of pocket with little to no money.

What are some good ways to find these types of deals?

What type of seller(s) are ideal for this type of creative real estate investing strategy?

Also, my grandmother owns a condo in Cleveland, Ohio that she doesn’t use and I would like to pitch owner financing to her.

Here are some terms I had in mind. Please feel free to leave feedback and share your experience using this creative strategy.

Purchase Price: $45,000

Term: 120 Months

Balloon Payment: at The end of 120 months

Interest: 4.8%

Down Payment: Will pay for repairs in the form of a down payment. Repairs are estimated to be anywhere from $19K to $28K

I plan to use a private lender/rehab loan to fund the repairs.

Any advice will be helpful. Thank you in advance!

 You usually have to talk to many sellers to find one that will work with you.
Can it be done,,. Yes

Is it easy? “ No.”

Post: How to complete a Subject-to?

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Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Ron Buffano:

Hi,

I’ve never completed a Subject-to, but I would like to. What is the process once the property owner and I have agreed on the terms? What paperwork is required?

There are 7 (seven) ways to do a Subject To. The first six will get you into trouble. Don't do any combination of these things when doing Subject Tos: 1. don't do a "kitchen" table closing 2. don't use a Quit Claim deed 3. don't ask the bank for permission 4. don't do one without a title report 5. don't write up the paperwork yourself 6. don't do one unless everybody who has an interest in the property is on board 7. don't ever miss a payment 8. don't do one if the property is in bankruptcy 9. don't do one if you don't know what you're going to do with the property 10. don't do it in a trust 11. don't try to hide what you're doing 12. don't buy unless you know all of the numbers 13. don't buy unless you have a solution for the "Due on Sale" clause 14. don't do one if the loan is underwater 15. don't do one if it's with a "vulnerable" group (elderly, handicapped, minority, etc) 16. don't do one if it's still in probate 17. don't do one if it's a reverse mortgage 18. don't one one if it's a FHA loan (unless you really, really know what you're doing) 19. don't do one if the seller wants to buy a house in the future 20. don't do one if it's in forbearance 21. don't do one if there is a 2nd loan or lien 22. don't do one if the other owner is in jail or "location unknown" 23. don't "not" record the warranty deed. 24. don't do it at all without disclosures. There is more, but that is what comes to mind at the moment . . .

So, Just a couple of warnings of what not to do. It works really, really well when you do them "right".

That’s quite a list if you came up with it at the spur of the moment:)

Post: Realtor gave personal info out

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Originally posted by @Scott Mac:
Originally posted by @Steve Vaughan:

I print, black-out, then scan on my multi-function printer. But there is  probably an even easier way. Tech is not my strong suit. At all. 

A Sharpie is your friend.

What Mac said;)

 I would advise Against reporting them. It’s to easy to permanently harm a person these days IMO. With that being said I would be upset as well if I were in your shoes.

Post: Is refinancing TK an option?

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Originally posted by @Kenneth Garrett:

@Joe S.

Turnkey is designed for a high income professional who has no time but wants to deploy his/her income. They put down 20% and get a CoC return with their cash flow and take advantage of depreciation, mortgage pay down, interest and property tax deduction and of course some appreciation. There 20% is stuck in. The BRRRR strategy is designed to refinance your capital back to you so you can repeat the process.

You summarized it well. I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t over looked something. 

Post: Trying to get my ducks in a row...

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Originally posted by @Raul Velazquez Jr:

I will be closing on my first rental this week and will need to purchase kitchen appliances for said rental. I was wondering if someone can point me in the direction of an investor friendly appliance store. Thank you for your time.

 Your title quacked me up!

Post: Is refinancing TK an option?

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So to be clear I understand the BRRR, but Turn Keys are another story. Let's say you buy a TK at full retail plus. Your down payment is locked up for a longtime.
Am I missing something? Is there away to keep recycling your seed money with TK?

Post: Happy Father’s Day a few hours early

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Father’s Day brings up a ton of emotions. For some it’s good and for others no so much. 
For all the dads that are doing their best may God bless and help you as you you stick it out to be there for your Children. 
My prayer is that this Father’s Day be blessed and my God give you strength. 

Post: Can you truly get ahead by buying turn-key homes

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Originally posted by @Account Closed:

@Steve Vaughan you're generalizing again. I just bought a brand new build for $375k that appraised for $398k. Instant equity. All cash outlay minimized. For 3.5% down I've created a massive ROI using nothing but turnkey INVESTING. Call me a "buyer" all you want!

If you only put 3.5% down you must be moving into the property. How will you scale that at a high rate of speed? Most TK buyers are not doing so as their primary residence. The original poster mentioned 25% down I believe and was concerned that she was running out of down payment money.

Post: I'm Looking Buy 20 Subject-To Properties In Maryland This Year

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Originally posted by @Fade Aromolaran:

My name is Fade and I'm a wholesaler based out of Maryland and I've done a good number of deals over the past year and a half.I've been studying subject-to transactions for the past couple months in preparation for the gap in income the pandemic caused and the amount of creative financing inventory that is going to pop up. At this point, I understand the back bone of the process and how to run the numbers. Right now I am having issues with finding an attorney for legal advice and a title company that is willing to close these deals. The doors have been slammed in my face so far. 

Please reach out if you or someone you know are an attorney or title company processor that is interested in doing business and building a relationship. My goal is to eventually hit 10 deals per month and I also want to be able to pick up 20 subto/seller finance deals this year.  Please let me know if you are interested in being a part of my journey and want to work together!

Fade...As you can see from the many responses.

 It’s probably not a good idea to talk big game about sub2 investing on BP, especially since it’s clears that you don’t have a grasp on what your doing. (example... planning on deeding a property back to seller if things go wrong in a state that has transfer fees.) 

There are people that do sub2 respectfully, but they are not on BP bragging about it. 
 

The bold statement that you was going to do twenty in one year definitely didn’t set well for most. 20 in one year without prior knowledge
could be disastrous not just to you, but the sellers as well. There is a lot of moving parts to a sub2 transition. There is even more moving parts on doing a wrap correctly. These kinds of transactions continue to take monitoring and a careful eye. A wrap is NOT a passive investment. If the wrap buyer stops paying do you plan to keep paying? With a wrap you the seller would still be on the hook if things go wrong and things do go wrong. Buyers do stop paying and have been known to to do other things. Have you studied foreclosure laws in your state? Will you pay the underlying loan payments while you are foreclosing on your wrap buyers for non payment while you pray they don’t file bankruptcy one day before the foreclosure?

The insurance has to be just right as well. What about book keeping, records, and taxes? That is an on going job in a big way. Someone has to do it.

I’m not trying to be negative, but twenty in one year is definitely not recommended with no prior experience in that model. You or anyone else for that matter can get more branches in the air than roots in the ground.

Best regards and wish you well:)

Post: Emotional suppor animal joke

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Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:
Originally posted by @Joe S.:
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:
Originally posted by @Joe S.:
Originally posted by @Russ M.:

Check with your lawyer.  We had an existing tenant try to pull the same thing.  Our lawyer had us request that the doctor providing the diagnosis requiring an emotional support animal be local and fill out our form.  Once they heard that they didnt need the cat anymore, and it suddenly disappeared.

What kind of form? That strategy was brilliant.!

 I received fair housing training from my city and the representative suggested doing this. The key is you tell the applicant that the form can only be mailed or e-mailed to the medical health professional directly. You also state that the letter form has to be returned directly to the landlord. In other words, the applicant/tenant is not in the middle forging signatures or getting fake letters off the internet.

The form contains a paragraph that states the penalty for for perjury. When the medical professional signs, it says they attest their statements are true understanding the penalty of perjury. This makes a medical professional think twice. 

Just the entire process of sending the letter to the medical professional and getting it back weeds out most every scammer. I have told people about the process and they just go away. 

 Do you provide the form for them to take their medical professional?

 No, I require the contact name and address to mail it. 

 Can you supply the form you send if you get that for?