All Forum Posts by: John Hyatt
John Hyatt has started 23 posts and replied 110 times.
Post: Buying a Mobile Home and Moving it to Different Lot

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- Glendale, AZ
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Hi Lawrence,
I personally have not done this, but my dad has invested in Mobile Homes and the land for over 30 years and I have spoken with Mobile Home park owners who have successfully done this. Depending on your situation (would need more detail) there may be a lot (pun not intended) to think about. There could be state or city laws that prevent it from taking place, not just the mobile home park neighborhood. If it is permitted then you would need to think about if you can get city water or well water, gas/electric or propane, septic tank or sewage, etc. if you are planning on putting it on an empty piece of land in a neighborhood with houses then I would consider re-sale value and the fact that the neighbors might not like you for it. I am assuming that you already have figured out how you are going to transport it to the land. I guess what I am trying to say is that it depends on what you are looking to do and where you plan to do it. Some cities like Tucson this is common place and others like Beverly Hills might be a lot of hoops to jump through.
-John
Post: Passive Income Producing Property for Sale with Equity Arizona!

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- Glendale, AZ
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FOR SALE - Passive Income. Phoenix. Wholesale price $118,500 to you, Under Contract for $139,900, Rents to the current buyer for $900 per month, Current cost for principal, interest, tax, insurance, and home warranty $665.
Facts:
-Houses are under a 3 year contract or less, longer contracts are available too.
-Buyer-Tenants have been carefully selected and have significant “skin in the game”
-We manage property up through closing (we have a vested interest to close the deal 50/50 split of Equity and Cash Flow)
-All Houses have Home Warranty’s, Buyer-Tenants pay for service calls
- We are constantly reinvesting the money in more deals in case you are interested in more than one
-You can purchase with all cash instead of loan if you prefer
-Addresses have been removed to protect the Buyer-Tenant
I can send you pictures and more detailed information upon request.
Thank you for your interest!
-John
Post: Second Week Door Knocking - Results and Revision of Plan

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- Glendale, AZ
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Originally posted by @Roy Schauer:
I work with pr-foreclosures a lot. They are public record, so find out where they have to be published. The courthouse is usually one, but not the most efficient method. We have a local Journal of Commerce that publishes them. For the western states, WWW.USA-FORECLOSURE.COM is a free service that allows you to set up area notifications. Another good service, but it's a pay site, is WWW.FORECLOSURES.COM. They allow you to set up search perimeters so that you can get an email every time a new property is added that meets your criteria. I have mine setup for my area to alert me for any properties with at least 20% equity, under $400k. Saves me a lot of time searching and now I spend that time qualifying and making contact.
Also setup bird dogs, people who would either need money, or are constantly out in the neighborhoods and come in contact with these houses. I have a stay at home mom that I've shown how to look for properties and what makes it a good deal in my eyes. Also I have a guy that works for the local gas company who does the turn offs for properties. When he sees a house that's vacant, or been neglected, and has to turn off the gas, he sends me the address. I give it to my stay at home mom to research and give me what she finds and I do the contact from there. If I get it under contract, whoever was involved gets $500 each. But I've spent the time to show them what I'm looking for and given them the tools to do it.
I've also partnered up with realtors and the local real estate investment group to let me know when they see deals. I either let them stay involved, ie realtors to make their commission, or I pay them a wholesale (finders) fee. A lot of times, beginning investors will be able to find a deal, they just don't know where to go from there. So I do a mini-mentoring program to show them how I research and make contact. I know have a decent reputation in the realtor community of being able to help them sell properties that are problem children for them and they can't get rid of. Typically the 90-120 days on market.
I hope these ideas help. There are a lot of people out there that would love to partner up and learn how to make better money. If nothing else, put together a small investor network to help partner up on deals. I've now got so many coming through that I can't handle them all so I pick the one's I really like, and on the others I either partner up with other investors to leverage their time and my knowledge, or I wholesale them to experienced investors. There are really just too many possible deals out there right now. And with the economy doing what it is, I think there will be even more opportunities.
Originally posted by @John Hyatt:
Originally posted by @Robert Davidson:
Two sources for foreclosure leads are RealtyTrac and Property Radar. Both are subscription but IMO very reasonable. You're wasting a lot of time with Zillow and checking tax records.
It's irrelevant if the house in foreclosure is owner occupied or occupied by a renter (maybe not paying rent.) You may have a couple of hoops to jump through on non-owner occupied but check your state foreclosure laws with an attorney. Paying for an hour or two consultation with a real estate attorney will be well worth it. In California if a tenant is occupying a foreclosure they have to be given 60 days notice to vacate.
Thank you Robert! I agree, Zillow has been getting me on a lot of dead ends...also very time consuming!
Great info!! Thank you Roy! I will check out those sites and set up alerts as well.
Post: Second Week Door Knocking - Results and Revision of Plan

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- Glendale, AZ
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Originally posted by @William Hochstedler:
Originally posted by @John Hyatt:
3) Always ask three times - never going to see them again anyways.
I don't know if this is consistent with your experience, but I have found, like all marketing, going back is important. When I work my farm area, I go back to the same properties regularly to establish rapport.
Also, when dealing with pre-foreclosure, many borrowers (particularly with certain banks) are getting strung along with mortgage workouts. They think they have everything under control until they don't. By returning several times, you might be the person they call when they hit a wall with the bank or you might go back just when they're at their wit's end and want to talk.
For me, the one-and-done numbers game isn't much better than direct mail. By door knocking you can get something that direct mail can't do: feedback. Many people don't open up the first time.
Thoughts?
Hi William,
Good points, my friend that I was door knocking with is more aggressive than I am. I've been reading Tom Hopkins how to sell anything and what I am getting is that I need to develop my own style and I am more relational like you suggest. I am now doing a combination of Mailers and door knocking. Thank you for advice!! I am using this cool app Spotio now as well, I highly recommend it.
-John
Post: How do Short Sales, Foreclosures and REO's Work

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- Glendale, AZ
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Originally posted by @Christopher Winkler:
Hi John, not sure this is correct, though want to clarify your comments. We bought a note in Ohio that the bank did take to foreclosure and it did not sell. They did not bid the minimum, so it sat in limbo for a couple years, and to top it off, the owner is deceased. So while the bank did own the note & mortgage, they did not have the deed and they could not sell it as an REO.
We bought the note/mortgage, substituted council, scheduled another foreclosure sale, and bid the minimum to get title. Now we own it and are looking to sell it. Now its an REO as we have title, and if they don't bid at auction, they don't have title. Anyone, please correct me if I am wrong...
Hi Chris, good point I should have clarified that is how it usually goes down, but not always. I also am not that familiar with other states (I know AZ and a little bit about California). Technically, REO is any real estate that is owned. So although they don't sell it as an REO doesn't mean it's not classified as REO. For example if you own your house outright, you could list it as an REO...(real estate owned). Typically people who own their house cash don't advertise it as an REO (prolly cause they think it's only banks that can). I didn't want to get to technical, so I just provided the basic term for REO as most people know it.
Post: How do Short Sales, Foreclosures and REO's Work

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- Glendale, AZ
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Hi Kathie,
Short Sale – when the borrower owes more than the house is worth and must get the lender and/or the investor to agree to sell for less than is owed. Every lender/investor is different, I have processed over 300 short sales with over 30 different lenders and they each have their own way of doing things (One negotiator at Bank of America told me they worked with over 1,400 investors), but usually they all request the same documents (bank statements, pay stubs, hardship letter, 4506-T, etc). If you owe $110,000 and the property is worth $100,000 the bank must agree to the $10,000 they will be losing (plus commissions and closing costs which makes it more than $10k). Why would a bank do this? So they don’t have to go through the foreclosure process, list a property and wait for buyer, hire an attorney, liability, can go after seller later in some cases, and so on. Note: someone doesn’t have to be late on payments to do a short sale, they can be current (again, every lender/state/investor are different). I would recommend finding an agent who has does short sales and knows the process otherwise it can take a long time. Timeline depends on so many factors (buyer, seller, agents, lender, investor, situation, etc). On average though a short sale should take 90 – 120 days. If you want to buy a short sale just ask a realtor to send you short sale listings or network with people/investors who have short sales listed.
Foreclosure – When someone is late on payments and the bank takes legal action to get them out of the property so they can sell it. Typically when someone says they bought a foreclosed property they really mean they bought an REO property from the bank (even though HUD houses are foreclosed on, only difference is they were FHA loans). Foreclosure is the process, not the type of listing. That's why there is Pre-foreclosure deals. You can look for Pre-foreclosures (properties that are past due, but can't be foreclosed on yet because of state laws, etc). If someone is 60 days past due and the bank will foreclose in 90 days you can buy the property or do a subject to and bring the loan current, depends on the situation (make sure you know what you are doing – seek counsel if not).
REO – Many people define REO as Real Estate Owned by the bank. This is when the bank forecloses on a property and it doesn't sell at auction or they buy it back at auction and list it as for sale. Technically though REO can be anyone who owns the real estate (no mortgage). If you buy a property for $100k cash and you own it free and clear with no mortgage you can list it as an REO property (marketing tip). In this situation though again it depends on the bank or lender selling on the process. My current house that I own was purchased through an REO and it was quite a bit more paperwork than a traditional sale, but nothing too crazy. Again, if you want to buy an REO ask a realtor to send you REO listings.
Let me know if this is what you were looking for…or if you have any other questions/concerns.
-John
Post: Franchises

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- Glendale, AZ
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Hi Phillip,
I have no experience in operating a pizza franchise, but I do have a couple of stories about pizza franchises:
Story #1: my dad’s friend opened a pizza franchise and worked well over 80 hours a week for several years to barely make it. After struggling for several years he ended up selling the property and made more profit from the sale of the building then he did from all the years of working 80 hour plus weeks combined. As you can imagine this is what got him involved in real estate.
Story #2: my dad owned a commercial building and was looking to buy a subway or dominoes franchise since he could essentially get the land for free (minus opportunity cost and taxes). The commercial real estate agent advised my dad against it, he advised that he had seen several people attempt the same thing over the years and it almost always fails because the franchise in itself is a full time job unless you can afford to hire a manager to care for the operations.
9 out of 10 restaurants fail in their first year, 9 out of 10 of those fail in their second year, and so on.
I am not trying to discourage you from running a pizza franchise, I am only bringing this up to see is this really what you want to do? Are you passionate about food and will you do anything to make the pizza franchise work? Or are you just doing it for real estate purposes and because it’s a cool idea? If you aren’t passionate and if this pizza franchise isn’t your calling then I would recommend against it. However, if its been a dream of yours and you are willing to do anything to make it successful (including working 80 + hours) then I say go for it!
-John
Hi Kewin,
I purchased a house near Arizona State University thinking I was going to rent to college students, the funny thing was I only had a couple of college students inquire (usually not qualified). I ended up renting three bedrooms out to various adults who needed a place to stay and living in the other room. If you are looking to rent the entire house out I would recommend getting a co-signer on a college student and being very very picky in the front end screening. I know it’s hard when you have a mortgage and easier said than done, but it will be well worth it! To answer your question, in Arizona you can do an 8 month lease or 10 month lease, but I am not sure in other states the laws. I would personally stick to 1 year, you never know who will end up renting.
-John
Post: Do you disclose a haunting?

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- Glendale, AZ
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I know in some states like California, I think you have to disclose. I personally dont beleive in so called "hauntings" so I don't know if I could ever disclose such a thing. I might tell someone that the previous owners said it was haunted if I lived in California still. When I was younger we purchased a house that was on the market forever because a girl hung herself in one of the rooms and they had to disclose. I lived in that exact bedroom were the hanging took place for several years and never once experienced a problem.
Post: Driving for dollars - a lot of return mail, any ideas?

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- Glendale, AZ
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Originally posted by @Larry Turowski:
@John HyattI haven't done driving for dollars really--well, maybe once--but 20 postcards is a tiny sample. What ultimately matters is whether you get enough deals to justify your time, effort, and expense. Work this number up to 200 and see what comes of it. Also, consider leaving a note at the house. If you are really brave, you could do like some investors and post a for sale by owner bandit sign with your phone number in the yard. The idea is the owner will see it and call you. Most will likely be irate but some will be interested in selling--even some of the irate ones.
Thank you Larry, yes you are right! I just got so discouraged seeing most of them come back, I will keep it up until I have a much larger sample and if nothing then maybe I am doing something wrong and will post again for feedback. I thought about sending yellow letters to the owners, but just testing postcards for now. Great idea about leaving a note, I haven’t been doing that on vacant houses. I love that idea about leaving the sign, I haven’t had the courage to do that one yet. The first time I heard that was at a Mike Watson event in 2006 and I have yet to try it…would definitely be interesting to see results. If I ever gather the courage to do it I will post the results and let you know how it worked out.
-John