All Forum Posts by: Jonathan Pavkov
Jonathan Pavkov has started 8 posts and replied 192 times.
Post: Looking for advice regarding CPAs

- Columbus, OH
- Posts 201
- Votes 166
Originally posted by @Mary Schlabach:
@Jonathan Pavkov
At the moment I need tax prep, so #2. But maybe more tax planning in the near future, #3!
Excellent! A good CPA will help you figure out the best way to keep your books in solid order so you can easily get your returns finished. They should also be able to help with #3.
Post: Looking for advice regarding CPAs

- Columbus, OH
- Posts 201
- Votes 166
Hi @Mary Schlabach!
There are 3 functions an accountant can help with:
- 1. Bookkeeping (tracking financial spending and receiving) - needs to be detailed oriented, not necessarily a CPA [$ or $$]
- 2. Filing taxes - needs to understand taxes, and must at least work for a CPA [$$]
- 3. Tax planning - needs to be a CPA, looks at wholistic financial situation and helps you minimize taxes [$$$$]
In general, these are more expensive as you go down the list. A good CPA can help you with 1 and 2, but they'll charge more. To answer your question - what are you looking for? Just tax prep? Or bookkeeping? Or tax planning?
Post: Using equity to fully purchase rental property

- Columbus, OH
- Posts 201
- Votes 166
Originally posted by @Alberto Leonard:
Complete newbie here.. I have a good understanding of how a HELOC and HEL works, however, I have no clue what are the steps to take once the funds are secured. With a conventional loan the lender takes charge of doing all the services such as title search, title endorsements, etc. How is it handled when to the seller its basically a cash deal?
I did exactly this same thing earlier this year - used a HELOC to purchase a duplex in cash. The Title Co. handles your search, etc. I have some title companies I can send you as a reference.
Post: 1031 exchange or show income for bank loans

- Columbus, OH
- Posts 201
- Votes 166
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:
Originally posted by @Jonathan Pavkov:
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:
Originally posted by @Clayton Smith:
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:
Originally posted by @Clayton Smith:
I purchased a property earlier this year that was in terrible shape and I believed it was a teardown so I got it for the land value. I planned to BRRRR the property. I cleaned the property and lot up and repaired the structure and it was not in as bad as shape as I originally thought. I got a cold call from a fellow investor and I threw out a high purchase price and he agreed. So I stand to make just under a $25k profit selling the property. I started my LLC last year and this will be the first time I show income and would like to finance my deals based on my LLCs income and not personal in the future.
My question is do I show the income on my taxes to help with loans or do I 1031 exchange the property and defer the taxes? Since I just bought the property I have not claimed any depreciation. This will be my 3rd flip this year so I will show around $75k in income plus my rental cashflow. Just want to get some advice on how to move forward. I have talked to my CPA and he said since the buyer contacted me unsolicited it will meet the 1031 rules on intent of the investment when purchased. Any advise would be great.
You cannot 1031 exchange a property that was never held for investment. Your CPA is giving you very risky advice that goes against legal precedence and common advice. The facts in this case do not support intent.
1. You are a flipper who has flipped three properties this year. This is your business and pattern of behavior.
2. You never placed the property in use as a rental, you never claimed deprecation and you never received rental income. It was never held for investment, not even a day!
3. The IRS has stated that two years is safe holding period for doing a like kind exchange. Some people push it down to one year, claiming two tax returns. You held this property less than one year and it was under rehab the entire time.
4. Receiving unsolicited offers has nothing to do with intent. Every investor in the world is getting unsolicited offers for properties. Every flipper is being asked "do you have other properties". Assuming your CPA is right, EVERY flipper could do 1031 on every property just claiming intent if they sold it off market. That is obviously not correct.
All of your behavior patterns show this was a flip. Regardless of what intent you try to claim, your behavior is what matters. The IRS doesn't need to prove you are lying, you need to prove that you are telling the truth.
I guess I should have included some more information about my past investments.
I have flipped 3 properties this year, my first flips, but I own 15 rentals. I am currently renovating two other rentals that I will hold for an investment property. I have also BRRRR'd properties in past years. I got a renovation loan on the property that will convert into long term financing once renovations were complete. I have not claimed depreciation because I just bought the property in April. I am not very far in the renovation but I have emails with my property manager talking about how much to charge for rent based on adding an additional bedroom. I understand the IRS guidelines on the 1031 but I believe my behavior does show that at the time of purchase I intended to hold long term. That is why my CPA gave this advise.
It doesn't change my answer, because you are not satisfying the requirements of it being "held for investment" which the IRS has said short term is not sufficient. Less than a year is short term by all standard. The IRS has stated that a time period of "two years is sufficient". You also received no investment income, so your entire financial gain from this sale is due to value add (flipping). The rules say it doesn't "apply to any real property held primarily for sale". If you had no rental income, what other purpose is there than sale? Intent doesn't matter. The word intent isn't in 26 US Code 1031.
I don't know if you will get audited, but if you do, this is very questionable at best. The burden of proof is on you and "my CPA told me it was ok" is not a defense. I am not trying to argue with you. I am genuinely trying to give you safe guidance here. It would have been better if the property was rented before being sold, because that would have show actual investment use, even if the time period was shorter.
Are you a CPA or an attorney? An offer on the property is unsolicited. I've done this exact same thing in the past and haven't been audited for it (bought with intent to hold long term, but received an offer off market that made me sell sooner than 2 years).
That is like saying you have driven drunk before and didn't get caught, so that means it is legal. You can literally do whatever you want on your taxes. You can claim thousands in expenses with no receipts to substantiate. Nothing will happen unless you get audited.
Not everyone who does questionable things gets audited. Most tax professionals want to see 1 year (and one day) to hit the two year standard. Showing rental income also shows it was used in trade or business, so these two things combined are solid proof to avoid questions. The general consensus is that the less time you held the property, the harder it will be to defend.
Tax code is vague and therefore there are many tax court cases with mixed results. It is hardly clear cut that intent and unsolicited offer substantiates short holding period. Show me a court case that determined that alone is sufficient.
except driving drunk IS illegal, and can kill people - so I don't recommend that. I also don't recommend people take unnecessary risks without the counsel of an attorney and a CPA.
Post: DST, 1031, exit strategy, retirement advice

- Columbus, OH
- Posts 201
- Votes 166
@Jim Pfeifer that’s a really solid strategy!
Post: Growing Wealth, but accumulating more debt?????

- Columbus, OH
- Posts 201
- Votes 166
@Tucker Cummings completely agree with balance sheet analysis! This was a game changer for how I viewed my financial goals.
Post: 1031 exchange or show income for bank loans

- Columbus, OH
- Posts 201
- Votes 166
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:
Originally posted by @Clayton Smith:
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:
Originally posted by @Clayton Smith:
I purchased a property earlier this year that was in terrible shape and I believed it was a teardown so I got it for the land value. I planned to BRRRR the property. I cleaned the property and lot up and repaired the structure and it was not in as bad as shape as I originally thought. I got a cold call from a fellow investor and I threw out a high purchase price and he agreed. So I stand to make just under a $25k profit selling the property. I started my LLC last year and this will be the first time I show income and would like to finance my deals based on my LLCs income and not personal in the future.
My question is do I show the income on my taxes to help with loans or do I 1031 exchange the property and defer the taxes? Since I just bought the property I have not claimed any depreciation. This will be my 3rd flip this year so I will show around $75k in income plus my rental cashflow. Just want to get some advice on how to move forward. I have talked to my CPA and he said since the buyer contacted me unsolicited it will meet the 1031 rules on intent of the investment when purchased. Any advise would be great.
You cannot 1031 exchange a property that was never held for investment. Your CPA is giving you very risky advice that goes against legal precedence and common advice. The facts in this case do not support intent.
1. You are a flipper who has flipped three properties this year. This is your business and pattern of behavior.
2. You never placed the property in use as a rental, you never claimed deprecation and you never received rental income. It was never held for investment, not even a day!
3. The IRS has stated that two years is safe holding period for doing a like kind exchange. Some people push it down to one year, claiming two tax returns. You held this property less than one year and it was under rehab the entire time.
4. Receiving unsolicited offers has nothing to do with intent. Every investor in the world is getting unsolicited offers for properties. Every flipper is being asked "do you have other properties". Assuming your CPA is right, EVERY flipper could do 1031 on every property just claiming intent if they sold it off market. That is obviously not correct.
All of your behavior patterns show this was a flip. Regardless of what intent you try to claim, your behavior is what matters. The IRS doesn't need to prove you are lying, you need to prove that you are telling the truth.
I guess I should have included some more information about my past investments.
I have flipped 3 properties this year, my first flips, but I own 15 rentals. I am currently renovating two other rentals that I will hold for an investment property. I have also BRRRR'd properties in past years. I got a renovation loan on the property that will convert into long term financing once renovations were complete. I have not claimed depreciation because I just bought the property in April. I am not very far in the renovation but I have emails with my property manager talking about how much to charge for rent based on adding an additional bedroom. I understand the IRS guidelines on the 1031 but I believe my behavior does show that at the time of purchase I intended to hold long term. That is why my CPA gave this advise.
It doesn't change my answer, because you are not satisfying the requirements of it being "held for investment" which the IRS has said short term is not sufficient. Less than a year is short term by all standard. The IRS has stated that a time period of "two years is sufficient". You also received no investment income, so your entire financial gain from this sale is due to value add (flipping). The rules say it doesn't "apply to any real property held primarily for sale". If you had no rental income, what other purpose is there than sale? Intent doesn't matter. The word intent isn't in 26 US Code 1031.
I don't know if you will get audited, but if you do, this is very questionable at best. The burden of proof is on you and "my CPA told me it was ok" is not a defense. I am not trying to argue with you. I am genuinely trying to give you safe guidance here. It would have been better if the property was rented before being sold, because that would have show actual investment use, even if the time period was shorter.
Are you a CPA or an attorney? An offer on the property is unsolicited. I've done this exact same thing in the past and haven't been audited for it (bought with intent to hold long term, but received an offer off market that made me sell sooner than 2 years).
Post: Short Term Rental Bonus Depreciation for high income earner

- Columbus, OH
- Posts 201
- Votes 166
Originally posted by @Kaitlin Neary:
Hello all! We are relatively new at real estate investing, and are looking for ways to still secure properties in 2021 and benefit from a tax standpoint. We do not currently have REPS, therefore had heard a good way to still claim bonus depreciation on a property (and thus help with taxes) is through a short term rental with 100 hrs of material participation and more than anyone else. We heard from a CPA that this rule only applies to those with income less than $250,000/year, and since my W-2 income is above this, we could not capitalize on an STR in this manner. This was the first we had heard of this income cap for claiming bonus depreciation on an STR, so were wondering if anyone else has heard of this? Any high income earners >$250,000 currently capitalizing on STR's in this manner? Any advice and specific articles or resources would be appreciated. Our extensive google has turned up nothing…. :) Thanks so much!
Agree with comments... your income + net worth = get highly qualified CPA. It will save you lots of money long term, even if it costs a bit more.
Post: Columbus, O. Approaching 40% Population Growth Milestone

- Columbus, OH
- Posts 201
- Votes 166
Originally posted by @Darius Ogloza:
Like Jack, I visited Columbus recently. There is much to like, in my view. Victorian Village, Worthington, Short North were especially impressive areas. Overall, I got the feeling I was in Texas/New South with much of the landscape seeming like it had been built yesterday or the day before. On the investment side, I got the same impression, though, that house prices have already outrun rents and I do not see rents increasing by a sufficient amount to make up the difference barring a pretty dramatic fall in the house prices. Those who got in earlier have made out like bandits and I applaud them for their foresight and pluck. At this point in time, I can't justify investing there when I can deploy slightly larger amounts of capital at a comparable price to rent ratio in parts of the SF Bay Area. (And no, short of nuclear holocaust, Columbus will never eclipse Chicago).
Can you share an address that sold in the Bay Area recently that was a 7 cap upon purchase? I have a brother who lives in San Fran, and have been all around the Bay Area - I haven't seen anything close to that. I might be off.
Post: Loans in Cleveland, OH

- Columbus, OH
- Posts 201
- Votes 166
Originally posted by @Chris Mcdonald:
The broker and loan officer I was working with for months informed me that there was a recent rule passed in Ohio that loans under 130k aren't being issued or very hard to get. This has discouraged me from looking in the Cleveland area. I have not found any news or articles verifying this but would like some more information about if it's true or not.
I have investors who buy in Cleveland and I haven't heard about this. I'll send you some lenders we work with.