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All Forum Posts by: Joseph Tubbs

Joseph Tubbs has started 7 posts and replied 14 times.

When a DSCR Loan is Not the Right Move

DSCR loans sound amazing... until they aren’t.
They don't care about your W-2, your DTI, or your side hustle. They care about one thing: property cash flow.

But here’s what I’ve seen trip people up:

  • High rates (6.5%–8.5%+ currently)
  • Often 25–30% down to make it debt-service well enough
  • Can be hard to refinance out of if rates stay high

🎯 DSCR is a tool — not a shortcut.
Sometimes a good ol’ 15% down investor loan is better if the numbers still work.

Have you used DSCR recently? What was your rate and experience?

For years, the 1% rule has been gospel in buy-and-hold circles: if a property rents for 1% of the purchase price, it's worth considering. But is this rule helping investors make smarter decisions—or holding them back?

Let’s break it down:

  • A $100K property renting for $1,000/month hits the 1% mark, sure.

  • But what if that same property has $300/month in maintenance and sits in a stagnant, low-growth area?

  • Meanwhile, a $200K property renting for $1,600/month (0.8%) might cash flow similarly—but it’s in a zip code with rising wages, strong schools, and double-digit appreciation over the past 5 years.

I’m not saying throw the 1% rule out entirely. It’s a good gut check. But in today’s market—especially in undervalued Southern metros—it’s often more productive to look beyond monthly rent ratios.

Who here has bought under 1% and still crushed it?

"Success doesn't excite me anymore its just Analysis + Captial + Execution... anyone can do that" -Some tv show

“LLC or No LLC?” – New Investors Get Burned on This

Thinking of putting your first rental in an LLC?
Before you transfer title, here’s what most new investors don’t realize:

  • Moving a property into an LLC after closing could trigger your loan’s due-on-sale clause

  • Some lenders won't fund your deal if the purchase is in an LLC with no track record

  • Insurance rates & coverage may differ when held under an entity

Pro tip: Many investors hold the first few properties personally and layer in umbrella insurance — then set up LLCs as they scale or refinance.

How are you structuring your portfolio? Have you ever had issues transferring title or setting up entities post-close?

Quote from @Chris Seveney:
Quote from @Joseph Tubbs:

National institutional investors have begun showing increased interest in Alabama markets, particularly Birmingham and Huntsville, following their saturation in larger Southeastern markets. Data indicates a 35% year-over-year increase in institutional acquisitions, though from a small base representing only 10% of total distressed property transactions. This expanding institutional presence is introducing more sophisticated acquisition criteria, data-driven valuation methodologies, and standardized rehabilitation practices that are gradually professionalizing the market. If current trends continue, institutional market share could reach 20-25% within three years, fundamentally altering competitive dynamics for local operators.


 What is the source?


 Realtor.com® Investor Report: Investor Share Peaks as Overall Home Sales Hit Decade-Plus Lows by Hannah Jones July 11, 2024

Quote from @Jason Wray:

Danielle,

Sell the house avoid the court costs and do not buy in NY instead look into states like Indiana, Ohio, Florida, North or South Carolina as an exmaple.  These states offer better cash flow properties at a fraction of the cost, lower taxes, less of the renter hassles.


lets throw Alabama in the list. Alabama dosent get the love it deserves in the capital markets 

An unserious answer: leverage up to your ears with OTM REIT call options with zero regard for risk.
An actual answer with some bias: ATL is a highly competitive already stabilized investor real estate market, research some smaller pre-stablized markets (bias incoming) like Birmingham, AL that you can leverage $320k into a dozen SFH's or (more bias incoming) a medium self storage facility on the outskirts of a large market (aim for over 150 units min.)

Quote from @Michael S.:

That's fine - they will quickly discover the numbers don't work here in Huntsville presently, and head somewhere else


I don't disagree with you but institutions have access to cheaper capital giving them a larger spread to potentially make profit and ride the appreciation lightening bolt on the long haul.

National institutional investors have begun showing increased interest in Alabama markets, particularly Birmingham and Huntsville, following their saturation in larger Southeastern markets. Data indicates a 35% year-over-year increase in institutional acquisitions, though from a small base representing only 10% of total distressed property transactions. This expanding institutional presence is introducing more sophisticated acquisition criteria, data-driven valuation methodologies, and standardized rehabilitation practices that are gradually professionalizing the market. If current trends continue, institutional market share could reach 20-25% within three years, fundamentally altering competitive dynamics for local operators.

Quote from @Ven Perla:
Quote from @Joseph Tubbs:
Quote from @Ven Perla:

Hi BP Community 👋,   

This is my first post here on BiggerPockets, and I’m really excited to be part of this community! I’ve been reading a ton of great advice and learning from many of you, and I’m now at a stage where I’d love to join the conversation, connect with others, and continue learning.

I’m actively exploring out-of-state rental investment and would love some insights and guidance from this awesome network. I’m evaluating a positive cash-flowing rental properties (nothing crazy here) with solid long-term appreciation potential. Open to both single-family homes and small multifamily (like a duplex), depending on market dynamics and returns. My plan is to invest out-of-state with local property management in place, and I’m open to turnkey properties as long as the fundamentals make sense. I’m looking at properties where I can put down 20–25% (~$80K including closing costs), ideally in neighborhoods that are stable and seeing some upward momentum without pricing me out on day one. 

Markets I’m considering and the reasons:

1. North Dallas-Fort Worth, TX – A competitive and maturing market, but with continued population and job growth.

2. Huntsville/Birmingham, AL – More affordable entry points and promising rent-to-price ratios.

3. Ocala, FL – Growing steadily with some newer construction and rising rental demand. 

Would you look at any other that has this solid Hybrid market dynamics? Indiana / Ohio? I am open to your ideas and thoughts so please suggest.

If you have insights into:

✅ Neighborhoods to target (or avoid)

✅ What’s working well for you in these markets

✅ PM recommendations or investor-friendly agents

✅ Risks I should be aware of in each area

✅ Recent deals that might help me benchmark returns

…I’d be incredibly grateful! Please feel free to comment or DM if you’re active in these markets — I’d love to learn more. Thanks in advance for the help!

Cheers,
Ven Perla

Hey Ven — welcome to the community! Huntsville and Birmingham are two solid Alabama markets with very different strengths.

Birmingham is one of the last major metros where you can still leverage efficiently. With lower asset prices, investors are buying in at $150K–$250K and seeing strong rent-to-price ratios and real upside. It's ideal if you're looking to maximize returns with less capital. The market hasn’t fully appreciated like Austin or Nashville, which gives you room to grow equity while still cash flowing. Great for hybrid investors who want both income and appreciation without overexposure.

Huntsville, on the other hand, is booming with new tech, biotech, and government defense dollars. Think Blue Origin, NASA contractors, and FBI expansion — all pouring in. The city ranks high in job growth and median income, and demand for housing is rising fast. It’s more competitive than Bham, but long-term fundamentals are very strong.

I’m local to these markets and happy to share any info on your out-of-state exploration. 

 @Joseph Tubbs Thank you. Are you seeing appreciation in these markets as well?  I understand cashflow is +ve.


Absolutely, Huntsville has had a huge influx of government and tech jobs since the govt relocated the FBI office. "According to recent CBRE rankings, Huntsville just claimed the #1 spot among emerging tech markets in North America." These areas are forcing appreciation and they're succeeding at an unreal pace.