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All Forum Posts by: Juan Pardo

Juan Pardo has started 2 posts and replied 196 times.

Originally posted by @Matt Groth:

I am far from a permabull, but how many mortgages in forbearance are underwater? How far have prices dropped? Why would you not just sell? We are not out of buyers, so where are the foreclosures going to come from?

The foreclosures for residential property will come, for instance, from non paying tenants of properties bought to rent, or from people who cannot pay their mortgages because they are going to be unemployed for a long time.

Regarding commercial property, retail bankruptcies are rising.

Originally posted by @James Hamling:
Originally posted by @Juan Pardo:
Originally posted by @Jim Spatzenfeld:

@Juan Pardo

All 4 links that you posted hit a paywall. Are they paying you a commission to sign up new members?

Anyways, I doubt that these articles show a solution on how to create more housing. I just saw an article this morning that we have a record number of adult children still living with their parents, more than ever before. We need millions of new housing units asap! As I said before, a foreclosure wave would not create more housing that we need so badly. It would just turn owners into renters = another transfer of wealth to the rich (and me).

Those are articles about derivatives, which is what made banks collapse in 2008 (MBS, CDOs etc). 

I was just pointing out that bank reserves cannot cover the risks a bank takes through derivatives.

Juan, have you ever heard of a little thing called the Dodd Frank Act? 

Your talking about the mechanics of the 08/09 crash, which you got wrong but hit the toilet seat so 1/2 credit as most on here are out peeing in the hallway with there info on the crash. Point is, literally everything was changed, everything, to prevent any repeat. 

Now on derivatives, any half wit or better in the financial investment sector will ALWAYS speak to the significant risk factor and volatility to ANY derivatives investing, ANY. Take your pick, from pork bellies too mortgages, so to speak of the risk factor there is like saying it's headline news that starring into the sun can harm your eyes. 

If you want to get into the details of the ignition point for the 08-09 crash it was the rating system of CDO's, rating A when they were packed to the gills with just crap, literally ticking time bombs. All other aspects was simply the mechanisms on how that inevitable "boom" rippled through every part of financial sector and was amplified to maximal power. At end of day if a CDO rated AAA was loaded with AAA, all would be just fine. It was the fraud in how the securities were built and conveyed, and everyone participating or just ignoring to ever look. 

If your arguing that is again happening, please tell us where, not "I feel" because feelings mean NOTHING, I could "FEEL" like I can fly, does that mean I will lift off the ground and zoom across the sky any time soon? This whole "I feel" BS is exhausting........ maybe I need to just start telling tenants I "FEEL" like their rents should be 4X market rates because that's as good as actual facts and data of market rates right???

You gotta be kidding me, as real derivatives trading today is as opaque as ever.

Originally posted by @Jim Spatzenfeld:

@Juan Pardo

All 4 links that you posted hit a paywall. Are they paying you a commission to sign up new members?

Anyways, I doubt that these articles show a solution on how to create more housing. I just saw an article this morning that we have a record number of adult children still living with their parents, more than ever before. We need millions of new housing units asap! As I said before, a foreclosure wave would not create more housing that we need so badly. It would just turn owners into renters = another transfer of wealth to the rich (and me).

Those are articles about derivatives, which is what made banks collapse in 2008 (MBS, CDOs etc). 

I was just pointing out that bank reserves cannot cover the risks a bank takes through derivatives.

Originally posted by @Jim Spatzenfeld:

@Dan DiFilippo

“You realize the banks actually have reserves on their balance sheets that aren't doing anything, right?”

That’s not true, these reserves are doing something! These reserves are preventing a repeat of a 2008 style banking system meltdown.

Have a look at this, from today's Financial Times:

Debt collectors bulk up to deal with US loan defaults

Rise in distressed commercial mortgages puts special servicers in demand

And this one on derivatives, just as an example of how derivatives work:

SocGen’s maths geeks built an empire: do the sums still add up?

The French bank became the world leader in equity derivatives but the products are no longer seen as safe

Originally posted by @Jim Spatzenfeld:

@Dan DiFilippo

“You realize the banks actually have reserves on their balance sheets that aren't doing anything, right?”

That’s not true, these reserves are doing something! These reserves are preventing a repeat of a 2008 style banking system meltdown.

The 2008 banking collapse originated in the secondary market, through the use of derivatives with worthless mortgages as the ultimate collateral.

Right now banks are re-classifying billions of credits to account for the increasing risk of non-payment.

Originally posted by @Jim Spatzenfeld:

@James Hamling

That's right James Hamling, if even a little guy like me can profit from foreclosures, then for sure banks can make a lot more money off foreclosures. The 2008 housing collapse was just a huge transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich, lol. If it repeats I would add a lot more rentals to my portfolio, for cheap! Unfortunately, it is unlikely.

Banks, in normal circumstances, do not make many off foreclosures, as most properties foreclosed on are not worth the money the borrowers got to buy them.

Only funds profit from foreclosures, as they buy thousands of properties or bad mortages in a package, in exchange for a huge discount.

Originally posted by @Brad D.:

The problem with these threads is that the words people respond with, i.e. their "opinions," don't reflect their real beliefs. What people believe is revealed in what they do. 

I'd like to hear what people are doing. Who here is currently buying properties? Who is currently selling properties. Who is sitting on cash? 

I am going to sit on cash at least until 2021. 

In a few months there will be a clearer picture about how governments expect to balance their budgets and who is going to pay for all the subsidies, checks, and money printed by central banks to try to weather the COVID storm.

My personal feeling, based on what happened in 2008 - 2013 is that real estate prices are going to drop.

When people start experiencing financial strain they will cut down spending and take a defensive stance, and that's going to kill the economy. This will happen due to rising unemployment combined with overleverage or too much debt.. 

The ball of buy to rent deals can only roll if tenants keep on paying.

And the idea of holding so many mortgages to be paid by someone else depends on having an employment and on tenants who are able to pay.. with massive lay offs the outcome is uncertain.

Post: Investing in Tulum, Mexico

Juan PardoPosted
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Originally posted by @Mike Lambert:

@Juan Pardo

Things make total sense now. You're getting bankguarantees in Spain and so you think it's normal to get that everywhere. But it's not and you're lucky to have that in Spain. Mind you, the Spanish banks shouldn't be doing this as it's way too risky for them. The Spanish banks seem to have forgotten that their over involvement in the real estate business led to their collapse and bailout during the financial crisis.

As to the situation in Mexico, buyers will only advance significant funds to developers if they get a significant advantage for doing it, which has to be at least a large pre-construction discount. Then, I have to weigh that advantage against the risk. The developers I buy from have a perfect long-dated track record, I got to know them personally and they're very wealthy already so they won't take my money and flee to South America. So the risk is totally acceptable for me to take, especially given what I get out of it. A bank guarantee wouldn't add much added value and Mexican banks aren't into that business. And, if they were, it'd be very expensive and the developers would include the cost in their sale prices. I wouldn't want to have to pay for that if it isn't clearly necessary. I wouldn't do that with any developer though.

Like you, I try to minimize my risks whenever possible but, at the end of the day, investing in real estate implies risk taking. And, let's not forget that no risk = no return. It's all about knowing what you do and taking calculated risks. And, of course, different people will have different risk threshholds so maybe you'd prefer to buy at a higher price when construction is finished.

 Spanish banks finance developers at their own risk, they provide bank financing. 

Developers have to hand over bank guarantees to purchasers for any sums advanced, for any money advanced before completing contruction. This is actually required by law, after so many scams happened, with developers running away with the money of prospective purchasers... and some of them were subsidiaries of big construction companies.

Post: Investing in Tulum, Mexico

Juan PardoPosted
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Originally posted by @Mike Lambert:

@Juan Pardo

Your rationale for wanting a bank guarantee is totally legitimate but it doesn't make sense for a developer to give it to you in most places. And any transaction will work only it is a win-win.

A developer providing a bank guarantee is not standard in many countries, except maybe in some European countries.

It's useless in the US and Canada since the buyer only needs to advance 5% of the funds before delivery of the property. It might make sense for a developer to do it in Europe since it'd cost a developer less money to pay the bank for a bank guarantee than to pay the bank for a loan and so it's cheaper for him to use the buyers' monies.

No developer in an emerging market country will provide a bank guarantee and they are the ones asking for prepayments because they need them. This thread was about investing in Tulum, Mexico; not about investing in Spain or Portugal.

However, if you're able to negotiate a bank guarantee for a Mexican developer, please let me know because, if you're successful, I'll do it too! :-)

Actually, let me rephrase the question: how can prospective buyers in Mexico be sure that the developer will comply with the terms of the contract, including deadlines to finish construction and sign the sale and purchase deed?

What do they get as a guarantee or collateral when they advance 70% of construction costs?

Post: Investing in Tulum, Mexico

Juan PardoPosted
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Originally posted by @Mike Lambert:

@Juan Pardo

Your rationale for wanting a bank guarantee is totally legitimate but it doesn't make sense for a developer to give it to you in most places. And any transaction will work only it is a win-win.

A developer providing a bank guarantee is not standard in many countries, except maybe in some European countries.

It's useless in the US and Canada since the buyer only needs to advance 5% of the funds before delivery of the property. It might make sense for a developer to do it in Europe since it'd cost a developer less money to pay the bank for a bank guarantee than to pay the bank for a loan and so it's cheaper for him to use the buyers' monies.

No developer in an emerging market country will provide a bank guarantee and they are the ones asking for prepayments because they need them. This thread was about investing in Tulum, Mexico; not about investing in Spain or Portugal.

However, if you're able to negotiate a bank guarantee for a Mexican developer, please let me know because, if you're successful, I'll do it too! :-)

It just seems to me extremely risky to advance money to a developer without a guarantee; the developer can just take the  money and run away. So what's the point of purchasing at the pre-development stage in Mexico instead of making a cash purchase of a property already built? A discount?

Developers provide this bank guarantee in Spain, even when they get bank financing to build. It is a guarantee to the prospective purchasers who advance the money in exchange for a bank guarantee. Seems like common sense to me.