All Forum Posts by: Justin Chan
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Post: LOC or cross collateral loan on a mixed use property in RI

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Quote from @Dennis Muno:
Quote from @Justin Chan:
Is there a lender willing to do a Line of credit second position loan on a mixed use property in RI? Or a cross collateral loan on the same mixed use property located in RI to buy in Florida or Texas?
Hello Justin,
So mixed use complicates things as many lenders especially with the current interest rates will want to greatly reduce risk. Some lenders may lend for a line of credit but you'll have to search for them. Commercial lenders will be the people to speak to for a line of credit on a mixed use property. Does the property cashflow after expenses? May not be impossible but you'll have to search for them. Your FICO, equity in the property, location in RI(whether rural location or not) will be a factor
Post: LOC or cross collateral loan on a mixed use property in RI

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Quote from @Erik Estrada:
Hey Justin,
Most hard money lenders will want to do a cross collateral loan on a property in the same state. I have not heard of any commercial banks offering a LOC on a mixed use or any second mortgage. Lending is tight now, so it may be tough to find.
Have you looked into just doing a cash out instead?
Was thinking about joining The Landsharks program. It’s pretty much a program to teach you how to flip land. Has anyone ever heard or tried this program?
Post: LOC or cross collateral loan on a mixed use property in RI

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Is there a lender willing to do a Line of credit second position loan on a mixed use property in RI? Or a cross collateral loan on the same mixed use property located in RI to buy in Florida or Texas?
Post: Pros and cons of cross collateral loans

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Quote from @Chris Seveney:
@Justin Chan
What we have done in the past is do the loan and with a personal guarantee we have been able to do an indemnity deed on the other asset
For example we lent out money on a Brrr property to an LLC, did a personally guarantee and then an indemnity deed on another property so we were locked in that lien position on the other asset because it had substantial equity.
Upon completion of rehab the borrower will refinance which will satisfy the loan
Happy to chat further
Post: Pros and cons of cross collateral loans

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Quote from @Doug Smith:
I'm always a bit apprehensive to cross-collateralize, primarily because it might be difficult to do a partial release if you want to sell one of the properties that are involved. We just closed a construction loan where our borrower was building on three side-by-side-by-side lots. We built in a clause where they could pay 120% of the proportional amount to release each property as they sell. Definitely think ahead about that scenario if you decide to blanket multiple properties on one loan.
Post: Pros and cons of cross collateral loans

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Quote from @Caroline Gerardo:
Cross collateralization generally is 80% loan to value on the initial property. Getting a residential appraisal with the comparables you need is difficult as not many mixed use properties under 4 units close in a given city. Get a realtor to pull some comps- closed sale with a loan in past three months with the same mixed use, unit count, and square footage in past three months.
Keep the existing loan until the cows come home 2.75 is almost like free. FHA with deed in LLC is a recipe for trouble, when you recorded the transfer deed to LLC it's considered a sale by the FHA/HUD rules. Also your insurance coverage had to remain in the person's name and loan number as a residential policy but the LLC changes the hazard insurance to need a commercial policy. If lender or servicer finds out that you aren't fully covered they will put force place insurance and they have the right to call the loan.
I have talked to another lender and told them the whole situation. I just wanted more information on the cross collateral loan. From my understanding I keep my fha loan. But the new lender puts a lien on the current property and uses the equity for the down payment on the new property. So it’s 100% financed?
Post: Pros and cons of cross collateral loans

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Quote from @Caroline Gerardo:
Cross collateralization generally is 80% loan to value on the initial property. Getting a residential appraisal with the comparables you need is difficult as not many mixed use properties under 4 units close in a given city. Get a realtor to pull some comps- closed sale with a loan in past three months with the same mixed use, unit count, and square footage in past three months.
Keep the existing loan until the cows come home 2.75 is almost like free. FHA with deed in LLC is a recipe for trouble, when you recorded the transfer deed to LLC it's considered a sale by the FHA/HUD rules. Also your insurance coverage had to remain in the person's name and loan number as a residential policy but the LLC changes the hazard insurance to need a commercial policy. If lender or servicer finds out that you aren't fully covered they will put force place insurance and they have the right to call the loan.
I have talked to another lender and told them the whole situation. I just wanted more information on the cross collateral loan. From my understanding I keep my fha loan. But the new lender puts a lien on the current property and uses the equity for the down payment on the new property. So it’s 100% financed?
Post: Pros and cons of cross collateral loans

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I have a mixed use building with an fha loan that has at least 100k of equity. I have been trying to figure a way to use the equity for another investment property. But a heloc with a mixed use is impossible. Also do not want to cash out refi because I have a 2.75 rate. Debating if I should use a cross collateral loan. Willing to do more research on other loan products as well if anyone has suggestions. This property's deed is under an LLC .
Post: Thinking of BRRRring in a not ideal neighborhood.

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Quote from @Zane Cress:
If you plan on putting everything you have into this deal with rising rates and uncertainty of a time line on the actual upgrade of the neighborhood then I would say it's risky. If you can do the work yourself and get the property dirt cheap then maybe it's worth it, but you need a lot of wiggle room on the numbers to make it a safe first deal. But if you see the upgrade coming it could be a major win in a few years. What is your personal risk tolerance? What is the maximum mortgage that rents could support after you cash out? No point in creating a 200k property if the rents can only support a 120k mortgage.
Property is 3 unit 8 bed 3.5 baths. It is listed for 285k. If I place an offer I wouldn't pay more than 250k preferably 225k or less. Full gut I am thinking 100-150k max. ARP 500k.
Unit 1- 3 bed 1.5 bath fully renovated min. rent $1700
Unit 2 - 3 bed 1 bath fully renovated min rent $1600
unit 3 - 2 bed 1 bath fully renovated min rent $1400
Definitely risky. I might just wait. Ive been just getting antsy.