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All Forum Posts by: Kay Kim

Kay Kim has started 5 posts and replied 46 times.

Post: What’s your experience with Wagner Nolasco B2RDirect

Kay KimPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 9
Quote from @Alex Craig:

@Kay Kim I have worked with Marco a few times and can say he is legit and has no intention of doing anything unethical. I am guessing his hands are tied as Norada is simply the marketing company and I am guessing no operational control of Wagner. If there are delays, it would be on Wangers part, not Norada. That said, he should give you updates whether they are not what you expect. Like Jay said, often, new construction does not go as planned. My commercial building in Knoxville is going to come in 3 months late and to me, I feel that is early.

@Alex Craig, you are right and I know that Marco is legit. My concern is Wagner side. Looks like the closing will be delayed as I expected due to supply, labor shortage and etc.  I wish B2Rdirect could be more informative with all investors. I have worked with other developers and they kept me informed very closely about any  progress monthly, in timely manner. Wagner has been the hardest one to get any updates. 

Post: What’s your experience with Wagner Nolasco B2RDirect

Kay KimPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 9
Quote from @Inna Hurin:

Hi Kay Kim, 

We are in contract on a townhome in Palm Bay with Wagner, closing is delayed till Oct and I just asked for an update on it. Wagner was recommended by my cousin who purchased a few properties with them and he's happy with the process. I know a few more people who's purchasing with him, from what I hear, every single closing was delayed due to supply shortages or other reason. 

 @Inna Hurin Thanks for sharing. We are expecting the delay as well. 

Post: What’s your experience with Wagner Nolasco B2RDirect

Kay KimPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 9
Quote from @Md Khan:

Hi @Kay Kim, Curious to know if you have any updates. Have they started building yet? 


 The last update we got was in July. There were streets but no foundation yet. They are still project to finish in Oct as they promise on the contract. I guess we will see. 

Post: construction to perm loan

Kay KimPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 9
Quote from @Naz Hossain:
Quote from @Kay Kim:
Quote from @Naz Hossain:

What type of construction are you looking at? 

New development or renovation? How are you funding the construction? If you are doing a value add, you can refinance into a regular investment loan which wouldn't need you to look for a "loophole"


If you are trying to get the lowest possible rates, you are probably a little late. But you can buy down you rates if you like. 

Hi Naz, thanks for your input. I have a land and a builder set up to construct a single family house for rent. I definetly need the construction loan to start with, right?

 Kay, you can get what they call a single close. A lot of lenders do it where they do a construction loan and then turn it into a long term after you're done in 1 close. I have yet to do one but i do know they exist. I have spoken to a few folks who have done that


 Naz, thank you for sharing the information with me. I appreciate it.

Post: construction to perm loan

Kay KimPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 9
Quote from @Upen Patel:

@Chris Seveney Thanks for the tag.

@Kay Kim Yes, you can get a construction loan, it depends on the specifics of the transaction. You don't want to indicate that its a 2nd home loan for the construction and then refi into an investment loan. We would do the construction and end loan, so I will cause a lot of issues with underwriting and you can potentially get in trouble for misstating on the initial construction loan. LTV on a 2nd home construction is not going to be any lower than an investment loan.

Keep in mind that you will have to qualify for the construction loan, even if it is an investment construction, without any rental income.

Hope this is helpful.


@Upen Patel, Thanks for the generous advice, If I may, could I ask few more questions? 

so, I should put upfront to the lender that this will be for rental property when I apply for the construction loan rather than just apply 2nd home loan ( which is only for primary residence ), correct?

Also, shouldn't the lender approve the builder as well, prior to appove the loan to a borrower?

what would be the flow of process for the construction to perm ( investment loan) ?  will this loan term have just one closing? 

Post: construction to perm loan

Kay KimPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 9
Quote from @Naz Hossain:

What type of construction are you looking at? 

New development or renovation? How are you funding the construction? If you are doing a value add, you can refinance into a regular investment loan which wouldn't need you to look for a "loophole"


If you are trying to get the lowest possible rates, you are probably a little late. But you can buy down you rates if you like. 

Hi Naz, thanks for your input. I have a land and a builder set up to construct a single family house for rent. I definetly need the construction loan to start with, right?

Post: construction to perm loan

Kay KimPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 9
Quote from @Jack Mawer:

Kay, you can definitely start with a construction/bridge loan and then convert to a rate-term or cash-out refinance with better terms and long-term debt. 

Hi Jack, Thanks for the information. you manetioned rate-term means, do you mean ARMs?

Post: construction to perm loan

Kay KimPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 9
Quote from @Naz Hossain:

What type of construction are you looking at? 

New development or renovation? How are you funding the construction? If you are doing a value add, you can refinance into a regular investment loan which wouldn't need you to look for a "loophole"


If you are trying to get the lowest possible rates, you are probably a little late. But you can buy down you rates if you like. 

Thank you Naz, I have a land and a builder set up already for constructing single family home.  I am trying to avoid two closing. So, I should just refi after the construction done and conversion it to  perm investment loan? 

Post: construction to perm loan

Kay KimPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 9
Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Kay Kim

Talk to @Upen Patel - I believe they have a program where it may be a construction then a permanent (two closings). 

@Chris Seveney, Thanks for the referral. 

Post: construction to perm loan

Kay KimPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 9

Hello BP family,  hope everyone is staying cool in this heat. 

I have some newbie question here. 

Can I get a construction to perm loan for a SFR? If so, what kind of permanent loan should I get after the construction is done. Also, I heard something about "loophole" which is an idea of starting with second home loan then switch to rental property. As little as I know that I shouldn't get a second home loan for a property which intend to rent it out full time, though. So confusing. I would like to stay away from anything illegal process which could potentially lead to mortgage fraud. Little help, please?