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All Forum Posts by: Jesse Smith

Jesse Smith has started 26 posts and replied 86 times.

Post: Access to MLS as Licensed Agent, but not REALTOR in Missouri?

Jesse SmithPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Kansas City, MO
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 38

@John Ching - "Mafioso" is a great way to describe it. The realtor associations seems to have all of the power, because they've been operating so long. Even though technology should have made the MLS virtually obsolete today, it persists because of the realtor associations. Very frustrating and expensive.

Post: Access to MLS as Licensed Agent, but not REALTOR in Missouri?

Jesse SmithPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Kansas City, MO
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 38

Hi!

I recently passed my Missouri salesperson licensing exam and related coursework.  My application for license was approved by the Missouri Real Estate Commission, and I've signed on with a broker.  

My question is - I need access to the MLS, but I do not want to join the NAR (KCRAR chapter). I don't believe that I am required to join KCRAR to gain MLS access, but I can't figure out how to do it. In my only discussion with my broker, she mentioned that people had fought KCRAR before to gain MLS access... but she didn't think they were successful. I'm perfectly willing to pay for my MLS access, but I don't want to pay the high membership fees for KCRAR.

Can anybody shed some light on this process?  Can I gain access to the MLS as a Missouri Licensed RE Agent, without joining KCRAR?  Thanks!

Post: Benefits of MLS access vs Zillow, Trulia, ect?

Jesse SmithPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Kansas City, MO
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 38

@Aaron Poling - Thanks for the reply. Sounds like the primary benefit is the extra info and disclosures available via the MLS.

When I posted my FSBO house on Zillow, it auto-listed on other sites, like Trulia. I've also had a lot of brokers and agents calling me asking for a commission for bringing a buyer, so Zillow seems to be getting quite a bit of exposure to RE professionals.

Post: Benefits of MLS access vs Zillow, Trulia, ect?

Jesse SmithPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Kansas City, MO
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 38

Can somebody please help me understand the tangible benefits of gaining access to the MLS? I just completed my real estate licensing exams for Missouri, and I will be applying for a license, and placing it with a broker. I understand that I'll have to pay a fee through the broker, if I want to access the MLS.

My question is - What is the actual benefit of MLS access, when most - if not all - of the information is publicly available on sites like Zillow and Trulia? With available technology today, the MLS doesn't seem to have nearly the weight that it used to... but the access fees remain high.

  • On the buyer/investor side - Do agents get "early access" to property listings?  Somehow better information?
  • On the listing side - Does a MLS listing really get that much more exposure than one on Zillow, Trulia, etc?

Thanks!

EDIT - Yep, I see the typo in the title.  :-/

Post: Seller's agent not presenting my offer for days

Jesse SmithPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Kansas City, MO
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 38
Originally posted by @Russell Brazil:

 Honestly, this seems pretty unethical.  

Post: Seller's agent not presenting my offer for days

Jesse SmithPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Kansas City, MO
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 38
Originally posted by @Charlie MacPherson:

@Jesse Smith Did your offer have an expiration time and date?  If I were your agent, it would have - and it would be hours, not days from submission.

A sharp agent will tell you to pound sand, but many are not that sharp.  

For what it's worth, MA law (I don't know about your state) requires that the seller's agent presents every offer "forthwith".  I have used that law to pressure a listing agent intent on dragging their heels to get our offer presented.

 My offer did not have an expiration, although I considered putting a 24hr clock on it.  Games like this make me angry.  The seller's agent should present the offer to the seller for their decision... Not wait around for another offer that nets him a higher commission.  That seems very unethical.  Especially since I could pull my offer at any time.  Seems like a breach of his fiduciary duty to his client.  They asked for a price... I offered it... Should be done.

Post: Seller's agent not presenting my offer for days

Jesse SmithPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Kansas City, MO
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 38
Originally posted by @Russell Brazil:

Sellers can review offers whenever they like.  I list properties on Wednesdays and review offers the following Tuesday. 

His fiduciary duty is to his client, not you. If keeping the property on the market longer yields higher offers, then that is what he should be doing.

Do you disclose this on your listing, that you will be reviewing offers the following Tuesday?  It seems like a full price offer should be presented to the seller.  With multiple showings scheduled, it seems like he is trying to find a buyer without a buyer's agent.  If he receives an offer from a buyer at full price, without a buyer's agent, I feel like he will push the seller toward that offer.  Seems very unfair to hold back a written offer at full asking price.

Post: Seller's agent not presenting my offer for days

Jesse SmithPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Kansas City, MO
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 38

I found a great investment opportunity in a hot local neighborhood.  Within hours of the listing going live, I entered a full-price offer in writing.  This was on Wednesday, and the seller's agent claims he "cannot reach his client" until Saturday to present any offers.  In the meantime, he has set up multiple showings.  

I'm confident that other full-price offers will come in before Saturday.  Doesn't he have a fiduciary duty to present my written offer when I submit it?  I refuse to believe that he is not able to reach his client, given all forms of communication available today...

Post: How did it become "normal" for sellers to pay the buyer's agent?

Jesse SmithPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Kansas City, MO
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 38
Originally posted by @Thomas S.:

@Jesse Smith When a agent calls they generally start the conversation indicating they have a interested buyer. I simply inform them that I am receptive to working with them but...... the buyer will pay their fee or I will pay them at a higher selling price. Their reaction is irrelevant and I do not negotiate with them.

The advantage I have is that I do not care if they do business with me or not. If I cared to deal with agents I would not be using FSBO.

 I may give this approach a try.  I haven't been consistently direct about asking if they have specifically interested buyers.  

Post: How did it become "normal" for sellers to pay the buyer's agent?

Jesse SmithPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Kansas City, MO
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 38

 Could you please elaborate on what drives the $33-million cost to run a listing service?  This seems impossibly high, unless it factors in a lot of overhead for broker compensation.  The listings themselves could be handled very inexpensively by leveraging simple database technology.