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All Forum Posts by: Kerlous Tadres

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Post: right expectation on the return for cash flow properties in Columbus, Ohio

Kerlous Tadres
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Quote from @Runbang Tang:

Hi Everyone,

As a first time out-of-state investor, I plan to do out-of-state investing in Columbus, Ohio. I found that normal duplexes or SFHs in C area do have cash flow, but the numbers didn't seem worth investing. For example, a duplex (in 1920s) ~ 240k, $2600 total rents with 20k rehab and 5% vacancy, 8% management and 12% maintenance, 1.37% property tax, $960 insurance, 25% downpayment and 7.25% interest rate. The overall cash on cash return is only 5.73% (with principal is 7.84%). It's way below the average return of qqq (12.5%). I want to know in this case if it is still worth investing in Columbus Ohio or if there is anything wrong in my calculation/expectation. I found that the return will be more than 12.5% when the interest rate <5%. Perhaps I should wait till the interests go down? Please share your thoughts and experience and what are the right investments to look at Columbus Ohio. Thanks a lot!

Great question — and welcome to out-of-state investing!

You're definitely running your numbers carefully, which is awesome. The return you mentioned (5.73% CoC) is fairly typical in many parts of Columbus, especially in C-class areas. The reality is, in today’s interest rate environment, hitting that 12%+ CoC return is tough unless you're getting deep discounts, adding value (BRRRR-style), or investing in higher-risk areas.


A few thoughts to consider:

Don’t just compare it to QQQ. Real estate is a different asset class. It offers leverage, tax benefits, appreciation, and long-term equity building — not to mention cash flow that increases over time.

C-class areas can work, but you’ll likely face higher tenant turnover and maintenance. You might want to explore B- to B-class neighborhoods in Columbus that offer slightly lower cash flow but better long-term stability and appreciation.

If you want to hit higher returns, consider:

Looking for off-market or distressed properties (there’s more upside with rehab)

Exploring small multifamilies or mixed-use buildings where you can force appreciation

Partnering with local wholesalers or agents who know the pockets that still cash flow well

Waiting for rates to drop is understandable, but the competition will ramp up when that happens. If the deal makes sense now, and you’re in it for the long haul, it could still be a great move!

Post: New Construction for Investors (Columbus)

Kerlous Tadres
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Quote from @Sachin Amin:

Hello BP community - any one lately come across new construction properties for investors in Columbus OH, most of these builders in Columbus refrain from selling it to investors and only entertain first time home buyers or if you plan to make it as primary home to live in. (Rockford, MI, Pulte, Ryan homes) - any one know of builders who are investor friendly in Columbus?

sachin


I know multiple investors who are doing newbuilds and would be more than happy to connect as well. 

Post: Looking for CA residents with out of state investments to network

Kerlous Tadres
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Quote from @Fontaine Schaber:

Hi everyone, 

Excited to learn from this community. I am a corporate tech business professional based in CA, SF Bay Area. I have my real estate license, and I am looking to diversify in out-of-state real estate investments as a flip or med/ long term rental, single family. Would consider short term based on market. 

What I’m seeking:

• Connection with experienced investors in CA who are successfully managing out-of-state properties

• Insights on your investment strategy, market selection criteria, and property management approach

• Potentially shadowing opportunities to learn your process firsthand

What I can partner and offer in return to start:

• Support in Sales prospecting approach- identify ways to refine the approach to finding off-market properties or finding relationships with agents in target markets

• Data-driven decision frameworks – My experience implementing metrics-based systems could help optimize property analysis or portfolio performance tracking

• Marketing communications skills – Whether it’s creating compelling rental listings or communicating effectively with potential sellers, I can share strategies

• Customer success principles – These can directly translate to tenant relations and retention strategies that maximize occupancy and minimize turnover

I'm approaching this with humility as a newcomer to REI but bringing the discipline, data-driven hunting mindset that has served me well professionally. I'm NOT interested in get- rich- quick schemes or quick shortcuts, so pls do not reach out if that is the case. I am interested in building relationships with successful investors who might be open to sharing their experience and wisdom.

If you're open to connecting or can recommend someone who might be, please reach out. I'm also interested in any local REI meetups or groups that would be worthwhile. Thx and looking forward.


I know multiple out-of state investors from California that are buying and would be more than happy to connect with you and tell you how it's working out!

Post: Real Estate Attorney Servicing North Central Ohio

Kerlous Tadres
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Quote from @Doug Kirk:

I am looking for a firm to start a relationship with in my real estate journey.  I recently purchased my first property in Knox County and want to engage to start with structuring a lease with a few custom items I have picked up from some of you all and books from which I have educated myself.  I am simply looking for some suggestions.  Thanks.


 Hey Doug, I got some referrals I can send to you!

Post: New to the BRRRR

Kerlous Tadres
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Quote from @Harrison Taylor:

Hello,

New to the community and also a new investor. I've landed with wanting to try a BRRRR strategy on a house in my local market. I live in the Midwest, Illinois to be exact.

The house would be bought and rehabbed with cash. The house is in good shape at face value but is old. It is a 1300sq/ft 3 bed 1 bath with plenty of room to add a second bathroom.

I guess my question here is how to estimate a decent rehab budget. My plans are to add a second bathroom (sellers have already started this project). Maybe update HVAC system, the house doesn't have central air. Update the kitchen and windows. I'm hoping to keep it around 30K. Is this attainable? Is it wishful thinking?

Ideal purchase price: 65K

Ideal rehab cost: 30K

Ideal ARV: 160K

Thanks in advance for any advice/ input. 

-Harrison


 Always run numbers higher than what they are!

Post: Looking Out of State

Kerlous Tadres
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Quote from @Krystan Menz:

Good Afternoon BP!

What would be some markets you would suggest getting into, starting out? Looking for SFH to start and build a portfolio from there. We currently live in Maine, and the Market here is not great, not a lot of opportunities for what we are looking for. Currently looking for turnkey properties where we can learn without the hassle and worry of rehabbing out of state.

Thank you in advance for any and all advice!

Hey Krystan, welcome to BP!

If you're just starting out and looking for SFHs with solid fundamentals, Ohio might be a great place to explore. Markets like Columbus, Cincinnati, and parts of Cleveland offer strong rental demand, affordable entry points, and relatively landlord-friendly laws. Columbus in particular has a growing population, diverse economy, and a steady appreciation trend, making it a favorite among out-of-state investors.

Since you’re looking for turnkey properties, you might want to connect with local investor-friendly agents or turnkey providers in those cities. Just make sure to still run your own numbers and do your due diligence on the property management team.

Post: Best Places To Buy Currently - Looking for The 1% Rule ? Good Luck, These Might Be

Kerlous Tadres
#5 Starting Out Contributor
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Quote from @Ken M.:

Cities where buying is better than renting

Out of the 343 cities analyzed, 32 locations were found to be more affordable for buyers than renters. These locations are primarily concentrated in Southern states like Alabama, Georgia, and Texas, as well as Rust Belt regions like Ohio and Michigan. Not CA, NY or IL ;-)

A 2025 Rental Affordability Report, released in February by the real estate analytics firm ATTOM, showed that both owning and renting remain a challenge for average American workers, eating up between 25 to 60% of their wages.

Just some places to look for cash flowing properties

  1. (Premium/discount of buying vs. renting)
  2. Detroit, Michigan: -60.1% 
  3. Jackson, Mississippi: -59.8%
  4. Cleveland, Ohio: -39.3%
  5. Birmingham, Alabama: -36.3%
  6. Montgomery, Alabama: -31.1%
  7. Baltimore, Maryland: -23.6%
  8. Memphis, Tennessee: -20.8%
  9. Shreveport, Louisiana: -20.2%
  10. Toledo, Ohio: -19.4%
  11. Akron, Ohio: -16.9%
  12. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania: -16.4%
  13. Columbus, Georgia: -13.2%
  14. Augusta, Georgia: -13%
  15. Peoria, Illinois: -12.6%
  16. Beaumont, Texas: -12.5%
  17. Tuscaloosa, Alabama: -12.3%
  18. Hartford, Connecticut: -12.2%
  19. Dayton, Ohio: -10.3%
  20. St. Louis, Missouri: -10.2%
  21. Brownsville, Texas: -9.1%
  22. Macon-Bill County, Georgia: -8.6%
  23. New Orleans, Louisiana: -7.8%
  24. Mobile, Alabama: -7.5%
  25. South Bend, Indiana: -7.4%
  26. Waco, Texas: -7%
  27. Dearborn, Michigan: -4.8%
  28. Syracuse, New York: -4.7%
  29. Columbia, South Carolina: -3.9%
  30. Lansing, Michigan: -2.8%
  31. Pompano Beach, Florida: -2.2%
  32. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania: -1.6%
  33. Lehigh Acres, Florida: -1.2%
Nice to see Ohio 4 times on there!

Post: New to BiggerPockets Community

Kerlous Tadres
#5 Starting Out Contributor
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  • Columbus, OH
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Quote from @Camilo Lozano:

Hello Everyone,

My name is Camilo Lozano, I am based out of Indianapolis, IN. Excited to join this community of like minded folks!

All eyes on the Midwest as a great place to buy homes! The secret is out and we've been seeing the real estate market explode around here. We need more homes to be built to meet this demand.

Looking forward to connecting and getting more involved 


Hey Camilo, welcome to BP!

Post: SPRINGFIELD, OH? Worth it?

Kerlous Tadres
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Quote from @Carlos Quiros:

What's in Springfield OH? I keep getting offers/investment opportunities from a realtor I know in the area.

Is the juice worth the squeeze there?


I currently own rentals in Columbus, OH

There are definitely some solid deals out there and I think you should evaluate it, somewhat close to Dayton, Ohio which is a solid long-term rental market 

Post: Fix/Flip or BRRRR

Kerlous Tadres
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Quote from @Shayan Sameer:

Hello BP friends,

Hope you’re all doing well!

I have a quick question for the group — I'm looking to get back into BRRRR or fix & flip projects and was wondering what states you all think have good potential right now?

I’ve done a couple of fix & flips in the Atlanta area over the last few years, and recently started exploring the Florida market. I’ve been focusing on South Florida, but I’m having a hard time finding solid deals — especially anything close to the 1% rule for rentals. On top of that, finding a reliable GC has been a challenge.

Lately, I’ve been hearing that Tennessee and Ohio might be good markets for both rentals and fix & flips. I’d love to hear your thoughts — are those worth exploring even if I’m not local? My main concern is managing the project remotely and trying to find a trustworthy GC in a new area.

If anyone has experience in those markets or has recommendations on where to look next, I’d really appreciate it!

Thanks in advance!


Hey Shayan! Great question — and welcome back to the game!

I’d definitely encourage you to give Ohio a strong look. I’m based in the Columbus area, and the market here has a great balance of appreciation and cash flow. It's still possible to find BRRRR and flip opportunities that make sense financially, and you can get a lot more value compared to more saturated markets like South Florida.

Columbus, Cleveland, and Cincinnati each offer different dynamics. Columbus is growing fast with a strong economy, Cleveland has great price-to-rent ratios and solid inventory, and Cincinnati’s a nice blend of both. And yes — you can find deals that come close to or hit the 1% rule here.

Totally understand the challenge of doing this remotely. Having a solid Core 4 (agent, contractor, PM, and lender) is key. If you’re able to build that out or partner with someone local, managing from a distance is definitely doable. Happy to share some insights if you’re seriously looking into Ohio!