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All Forum Posts by: Kevin S.

Kevin S. has started 24 posts and replied 393 times.

Hi BP members, is it better to buy MF with window a/c or central air?  Window a/c has less maintenance and less cost or the other way around?  Is the property with central air worth more when time to sell?  What are the pros and cons?  This is RE in the south(warm state).  Thanks in advance.

Post: False Google reviews

Kevin S.Posted
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Quote from @Patrick Flanagan:

I was curious what you do when someone spams your online google reviews with negative comments? 

Is there any legal action you can take or a way to remove the false reviews? 

My Mom is having an issues with an employee she recently fired, that she is suspecting wrote a bunch of negative reviews on her google account(no actual proof). There was about 10, 1 star reviews popped up at the same time on her website. She is a property manager, and none of the comments were true. Each comment was stating she has done all these illegal activities…. 

She’s been in business for 20+ years, and has never been sued or had a complaint filed against her. 


Any advise would very helpful! 

Thanks,

Pat


I have a business different than REI and recently received an email from a company who are in the business of removing negative Google reviews. I have not used them personally but glad to share the info if you DM me. You can check them out. Hope it works for you.

Quote from @Roman A Elizarov:

"The world doesn't come to the clever folks, it comes to the stubborn, obstinate, one-idea-at-a-time people."

Mary Roberts Rinehart

"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."

George Orwell

In this small story, I want to show you how I entered into real estate investments, making bad mistakes, taking risks, living in a depressed neighborhood and finally making some profit.

My family came to the US in December 2016. We did not have much money, no work, no experience, and a lot of hopes and fears. One of the hopes I had was to find my way in real estate investments. I was inspired by Robert Kiyosaki's book... you all know the name of it!

In November 2018, I purchased a $63,000 ruined house on the South Side of Chicago, in an African-American neighborhood, and started renovating it, both with my own hands and with outside experts in plumbing, electrical, etc. By February 2019, I had already invested about $60,000 in this house. No loans were involved, so I had no more cash at that time, and "the cart was still there" - that is, the house required a GIGANTIC investment (and they exceeded the planned).

In February 2019, my two kids, my wife, and I were living in a one-bedroom apartment in a very old house with poor repairs, but in the heart of downtown Chicago. We were living in poor conditions just for the sake of a very good school. My spouse Luba at that point was very tired of these living conditions, the income instability, and the investment in the house, which she felt was my personal big mistake. But I insisted that I would renovate the property one way or another, even though it was clear at that point that the project could only be unprofitable. Luba once demanded that I sell this house "as is", for any money.

In February 2019, I had almost no work, and I decided to attend a seminar about real estate investments. The three-day seminar was (and is) led by some pretty well-known investors and realtors in Chicago. I gave a short presentation of my house with calculations of the money invested in it and offered these investors how much money they could give for it. They offered no more than $60,000. You may think I wanted to sell the house. Absolutely not. I wanted to make sure it was an unreasonable loss of the huge (to me) cash flow I had gained by working over 3,000 hours a year in the construction sphere. So, these smart-*** investors gave me a good "kick in the butt" - and I started investing my time on weekends, in the evenings, when there were no outside orders.

By December 2019, the house was 80% complete, we moved in in May 2020, and I kept improving it until February 2021, when the kids got the second floor as their bedrooms and the basement as a gym for their workouts.

The "dark side" of this process of living is here. We moved to the South Side of Chicago in May 2020. My wife and I had a conflict about this. She was very afraid of moving to this neighborhood because there was a strong belief among Americans and Russian-speaking immigrants that this neighborhood was criminal, full of murderers, drug dealers, and thieves. This was (and still is) partially true, but ... danger always looks bigger through the eyes of fear.

My wife was scared of driving there (not even walking). I put her and the kids to the test. And for that, I apologize to them. It took almost three years of our lives, and we had no normal socializing (we avoided it, to be honest). I have experience living in Kazan, USSR, during the Kazan Syndrome period (gangs on the streets in 1984 -1989), and I know exactly what kind of people they are, so I had no desire to socialize and make friends.

But there are also good sides to the story about this property.

First of all, the kids practiced at one of the best tennis clubs for free, because they lived on the South Side of Chicago - that's the mission of the club: to help local residents. I don't think they expected Russian immigrants to live there, but anyway.

Secondly, the children switched to Home Schooling (online education) much earlier - before the pandemic started. This move was motivated by the desire to play tennis professionally, and such lessons involve schedules that are at odds with those of any school other than online. Thus, living in a depressed neighborhood, we were not tied to a low-rating school.

In 2021, the real estate market rose beyond expectations. Real estate price increases in one year ranged from 20 to 40% across the US. Our house, in which I invested more than $150,000, purchased for $63,000, could be sold in February 2021 in that repair for $225,000 (which already made sense: if I sold - I would not lose anything, at least). In January-February 2022 the price of this property could be more than $300,000. The growth was unreal and exceeded all my calculations (very conservative, by the way).

Was I lucky? I just didn't want to lose everything and kept working, "making things beautiful". However, I did not do everything perfectly (many things - for the first time in my life). Nevertheless, the house was renovated. Finally, it was sold on May 17, 2023, for $265,000 (check it out: https://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/8903-S-Union-Ave-60620/home/13108431). In the short term the investment was not profitable, in the long run, appreciation and market changes gave me some moderate profit. It did not make my pockets bigger, but it did not let me fall.


 Welcome to America and happy you are doing it the American way.  Hard work, ingenuity, determination.  And succeeding the American way.

Post: LLC vs Personal Ownership?

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Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Becca F.:

DO NOT pay $13,000!!!! Unbelievable.

I have approximately $3 million net worth and a few different companies. I created my Trust and all the bells and whistles for under $2,000.

I don't even recommend considering an LLC until you have at least $1 million in assets, which means your equity, not your total value. The only people I've seen successfully sued for large sums are the really bad people.

I don't know if I posted in that discussion four months ago, but I have posted similar questions over the last 14 years and can't recall anyone saying they lost a home because of a lawsuit.

Here's my generic LLC advice:

An LLC is useful for two things: anonymity and legal protection. In most cases, neither is warranted.

Warning: I am not an attorney and this can be a complicated topic. Please note the information provided below is a layman's definition designed to provide a basic understanding for the general audience. You should consult an attorney or CPA for your specific situation.

ANONYMITY: When you create the LLC, your name is recorded on the documents and published on the Secretary of State website for all to see. So you're not completely anonymous. If you want to be completely anonymous, you can use a Registered Agent. The Registered Agent will record the documents on your behalf so only their name and information appears on the documents. I've done this with my properties because I'm well known in my small town and don't want people to know what I own.

LEGAL PROTECTION: By placing your assets in an LLC, you are legally separating them from your personal assets. If someone injures themselves and sues, they will be suing the LLC and not you personally. If your insurance coverage isn't enough, they could seize the LLC assets, but not your personal assets.

Additional thoughts:

1. An LLC is not free. You can spend as little as $100 to form an LLC, or you could use an attorney and spend $1,000 or more. There are also additional costs of operating and maintaining an LLC, like separate bank accounts, annual report filings, tax filings, etc.

2. There are rules to follow! If you fail to follow the rules, you may open your personal assets to a lawsuit. An example of this would be mixing your personal money and LLC money in the same bank account.

3. You do not need a separate LLC for each property or a series LLC! Don't make your life more complicated than it has to be. Most professionals will recommend a separate LLC for every $1 million in assets but I don't think that's necessary. In my case, I have residential rentals in one LLC, commercial properties in another, self storage in a third, and my real estate company operates in a fourth. Some have more than $1 million in equity while others have less.

4. The need for an LLC is grossly exaggerated on BiggerPockets and other websites. Have you ever heard of a Landlord being sued by a Tenant and losing property? I've been on this board since 2010 and haven't found an example yet. You've probably heard of big Landlords losing property, but only because they were flagrantly violating Fair Housing, running a slum, or otherwise violating the law in an egregious manner. You are more likely to be struck by lightning twice. The vast majority of lawsuits against Landlords are for wrongful eviction, security deposit disputes, and Fair Housing Violations. Your basic insurance policy with $300,000 in liability coverage should be sufficient in 99.999% of all lawsuits.

5. The best protection for you and your investments? Know and obey the law. I manage around 400 rentals with 12 years experience and have never been sued once. Even if I were sued, I document everything and obey the law, so I won't be found guilty. Even if I were found guilty, the cost would be in the thousands, not in the millions. Insurance would cover it, I would pay the deductible, and no assets would be lost.

If you are in an area like San Diego where people are more likely to sue, a judge is more likely to find you guilty, and the payout is likely to be higher, then you may consider an umbrella insurance policy. This policy will provide additional coverage above what your existing policy covers. It's easy to obtain, costs very little, and doesn't require additional, on-going effort to maintain.


Great response Nathan. You said to create LLC when equity hits about $1 million.

Is that equity for each asset(s) under one LLC or when you reach a combined $ 1 million equity of all your assets?  In your case you have multiple properties in different LLCs (storage, commercial, residential rentals).  Was that to simplify the category of properties or did each group hit 1M equity to be put in LLC?  

Also, could you share about creating your trust and bells and whistle for under $2000!!  The how, where, who.  Thanks in advance.

It was determination and Luck.  Sometimes determination get lucky, sometimes not.  No one predicted covid and it affected real estate in a big way.  Any other 5 yr time frame would have been different, IMO.

Post: Not worth it!?!

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Quote from @Ko Kashiwagi:

Hi Daniel,

I agree. Deals are definitely hard to find especially with the current interest rates. However, I will point out that a 7% ROI on a real estate deal is not the same as a 7% ROI on stocks. On top of the Cash on Cash return, real estate provides major benefits in 3 other areas, namely – Tax benefits, Appreciation, Leverage.

If you calculate the return on net worth, a 7% CoC deals can often turn out to be 15-20% return on net worth!


 What about capex? How would that affect the 15-20% return? Is there a 'typical' range for capex?  Is it based on property value or gross rent? 

Thank you.  

I am looking for the agent/owner who mentioned rent by the rooms in Orlando area.  You posted 2 days ago and unfortunately I did not save your info.  I am hoping you read this and reach out to me.  Thanks.

I think the asking price may be more than if it was based on LTR since cash flow will be more with MTR/Airbnb.  

Quote from @Arn Cenedella:

@Kevin S.

Good question. 
I should have been more clear. 
The LPs get investors the passive investors get 75% of the profit. The General Partners the GPs the operators get 25% of the profit. It’s a reasonable arrangement as the LPs put up most of the cash and the GPs do all the work in addition to signing on the loan. The LPs get most of the profit. 


 Thanks Arn