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All Forum Posts by: Mark Lawson

Mark Lawson has started 12 posts and replied 43 times.

Post: Chattanooga Real Estate Agent Recommendations

Mark LawsonPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Chattanooga , TN
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 25

I am sure vision hospitality has a lot to do with it. 

Post: Chattanooga Real Estate Agent Recommendations

Mark LawsonPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Chattanooga , TN
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 25

I highly recommend http://www.thefuquagroup.com/ but do keep in mind Chattanooga has banned new STR license at least for a while. There are some great areas outside of the city but inside the city they were limited to downtown only and now you can not apply for any new license.

Post: Latest BPP with Heather Blankenship Discussion

Mark LawsonPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Chattanooga , TN
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 25

I have multiple RV parks and campgrounds so feel free to reach out if you have any specific questions 

Post: RV park in the mountains of East TN for sale or passive income

Mark LawsonPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Chattanooga , TN
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 25
Quote from @Don Spafford:
That is an interesting layout. My team buys RV Resorts across the country, this one will be too small for our model. We typically buy with 100+ campsites and some amenities but plan to build out more rentable spaces and add on more amenities to make them Class A Resorts.

 We have some other larger parks but of course they are no where near that price range. 

Post: How to evaluate or buy an RV Park

Mark LawsonPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Chattanooga , TN
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 25
Quote from @Annie Chen:
Quote from @Frank Rolfe:

RV parks are evaluated more like a regular business than most other real estate sectors. Take the last three years' Profit and Loss statements and average them together. Compare to the tax returns for some degree of confirmation. Apply a cap rate roughly 2 points higher than mobile home parks. In diligence, compare the prior annual revenue to the reality of electrical usage (come up with a constant of power cost per day per occupied space and then take the actual power bill and see roughly how many occupied units you have).

Much of RV park and mobile home park is 100% overlap: how to find them, negotiate them, do diligence on them, renegotiate them, finance them, turn them around and operate them. The big differences are that RV parks are typically amenity rich which requires more overhead, can be seasonal in nature (but not always), require a nearby destination to work well (as opposed to employers), and use values that are typically 2 points higher in cap rate. The same loan brokers that do MH also do RV, as do the insurance companies.

We own both, and the only benefit of an RV park is that -- if you find the right one -- you can ramp up revenue faster because it costs you nothing to fill a vacant lot. If mom and pop did poor marketing and you bring in professional-grade internet SEO and other methods you could theoretically double your revenue in one year without any additional cap-x. You could never do that with a mobile home park unless you can double the rents in one year (which would be world record). To fill a vacant mobile home park lot typically requires bringing in a home and selling it, while filling a vacant RV park lot simply means somebody pulls in their motorhome or travel trailer.

Think of RV parks more like owning a restaurant (and the hands-on management that entails) while owning a mobile home park is more like owning a parking lot that rents spaces out monthly and is much more passive in management.

Some people just prefer one business model over the other.


 Hi, Frank, if the seller only has one year of income and expense data, how can we figure out the right number to purchase? I am new to the RV park, What are the regular expenses per month?


 I have owned a lot of them and the first thing you need to determine is what type of park you are buying. As one of the other guys pointed out if it is a recreational park it operates a lot like a hotel and weather, time of year, ect need to be factored in but if it is long term park it is a lot like a MHP. I have some that are a mix but I like the long term parks better. 

There are around 1m people living in an RV full time and only about 600k long term pads in the US. Many of your recreational campgrounds are owned by the government (either state or local) and almost all of them do not allow you to stay more than 21 days so if you are running a long term park there is a very high demand in many states. 

Below is a sample P&L (it is a real P&L from one of our parks) that will give you an idea of overhead. Some parks bill for actual power use and have a separate power meter for each pad. Some just have one meter and they pay the power and if you go that route the utility cost is very high.  

Post: RV park in the mountains of East TN for sale or passive income

Mark LawsonPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Chattanooga , TN
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 25
Quote from @Mike Reynolds:
Quote from @Mark Lawson:

We have a 10 acre RV park in the mountains of East TN if a very popular golfing area. The park generated close to $150k in gross rent last year with around $80k in net but has had a mostly absentee owner so the park is under preforming.  The park is currently 41 pads but has lots of room to expand or add amenities. There is lots of value add to the park. 

Willing to either sell the park (or assign it) or if someone is looking for a passive investment we are willing to set up a syndicate and our company will operate it. We do have experience and our office is about an hour from the property. Priced in the high $500k range (depending on if it is assigned or we close).  


 Send me some info on it. 


 Sent you a message

Post: RV park in the mountains of East TN for sale or passive income

Mark LawsonPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Chattanooga , TN
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 25
Quote from @Don Spafford:
Is there any additional land to purchase around it? Or is it just the 10 acres?

 There is some land around it but there is about 6 acres that is not being used now to expand. As a general rule you can get about 10 pads per acre. 

Post: STR in Gatlinburg/ Pigeon Forge/ Sevierville

Mark LawsonPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Chattanooga , TN
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 25

Make sure you find an agent who knows what they are doing. There are more complaints filed with the TN real estate commission out of that county than the rest of the state combined so there are some not so great agents there. One thing to look out for is some zoning is not grandfathered in on STR's and once deed transfer you can no longer have a STR in that home.

Post: RV park in the mountains of East TN for sale or passive income

Mark LawsonPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Chattanooga , TN
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 25

We have a 10 acre RV park in the mountains of East TN if a very popular golfing area. The park generated close to $150k in gross rent last year with around $80k in net but has had a mostly absentee owner so the park is under preforming.  The park is currently 41 pads but has lots of room to expand or add amenities. There is lots of value add to the park. 

Willing to either sell the park (or assign it) or if someone is looking for a passive investment we are willing to set up a syndicate and our company will operate it. We do have experience and our office is about an hour from the property. Priced in the high $500k range (depending on if it is assigned or we close).  

Post: Buyer wants to see my contract.

Mark LawsonPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Chattanooga , TN
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 25
Quote from @Mike Cumbie:

@Kevin Jeter,

Yes for double the closing costs (Thousands each transaction) you can double close, or pay a couple hundred, get licensed, be on the HUD-1 form, legally grab a commission and not have to lock the property up plus are able to advertise to the general public.


 I understand you point of view as a licensed agent (used to own a remax franchise myself) but there are as many disadvantages to being licensed as there are advantages. I do not like wholesaling myself but I have assigned some contracts and recently had one where the end buyer was given a price and when he was sent the contract he backed out because I was making a $55k profit. 

When you have a license it is illegal to have net listings so you can not charge more than a standard commission rate. Most commissions are from 6% to 10% and then the brokerage often takes up to 40% (yes I know some flat rate ones are out there) so it is often much more profitable to not have a license. There is also all the disclosures that basically tell the person you are trying to buy from that "I am a real estate professional and prob trying to buy this property for far less than it is worth and I am going to make a big profit". I have been on both sides and the side without a license if much more profitable. 

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