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All Forum Posts by: Pavel Sakurets

Pavel Sakurets has started 48 posts and replied 316 times.

Originally posted by @Brian Burke:

In our hot market it's anybody's guess how much a fool would pay...but anybody with a reasonable mind wouldn't pay over $175K in its as-is condition.  I wouldn't have paid that, there was just too much risk and at that time there were no comps to support a $525K exit price.  More like $450K.  So I'd say that $75K of that profit was a gift from the market.  When buying, I don't underwrite for appreciation.

 If I got it right, you bought it cheaper by 40k than anybody else would and extra 75k was as a ''gift'' from the market. Thus if these two things wouldn't happen, you would make about 35-40k?

Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Pavel Sakurets 

  PS we lost money on deals for SURE... its not all wine and Roses... most of my bigger loss's though have come on development deals were I might have spent 10 to 75k in due diligence then walked... Has happened many times to me.. Its the cost of doing business that is why when I do land a development deal there needs to be some serious money in it. to make up for the hundreds of thousands I blew on DD on deals I never bought ... :)

 Only this year I realized, the more work we do to a property, the less money we make.

Sounds strange, you would think if you buy a house for 45k and spend 50k on rehab, you would profit at least 25k. No, we profited less than 10k on such dumpy houses.  The competition was very tough this year because a lot of people started doing rehabs and we bought houses that nobody else would touch, because there was so much work needed to be done to them.

Instead of doing a rehab within 2 months (as we usually do), it took 4 months, instead of spending 50k on rehab, we spent 70k, etc. Thus I learned very important lesson : the more rehab work we do to a property the less $ we make. Even though I have in-house carpenters and own a warehouse that sells building materials to contractors :-)

Congrats again, I just have never seen a first time flipper making that much on the first deal :-)

What did you pay for the house when you bought it and how much did you sell it for?

How many hours approximately you think you spent finding, fixing and flipping?

When we do flips we look at $/hr.

Originally posted by @Lee Badragan:

My first flip - bought a house in '13 for 84k and sold it this year for 235k. Due to my inexperience with contractors and trusting them too much, it took me almost a year to flip it due to endless delays. In the end, the delays worked in my favor because the market in Chicago shot up during that time. When accounting for rehab costs and holding costs (used a HELOC on my house to buy it), I cleared about 75k in profit.

I joined BP to pick up tips from the pros, but it looks like I got very lucky on my first one and probably shouldn't expect to do another deal like that anytime soon. 

 Congrats, Lee. How did you find the property? Did you track your hours it took you to find, fix and sell? 

Originally posted by @Brian Burke:

Finally, the moment you've all been waiting for!  Escrow closed today, and the numbers are in.

$525,000 Sales Price

- MINUS -

$125,000  Purchase Price

$185,327  Rehab

$13,752 Borrowing Costs

$4,562  Insurance/Property Taxes/Utilities

$26,250 Commissions

$1,356 Closing Costs (buy side and sell side)

$168,753  Net Profit

This one worked out pretty well, I'd say.  Someone asked me earlier in the thread if there is anything I'd have done differently.  The answer is YES, I would have done the air test before putting the house on the market.  I had an offer the first weekend it was listed, the offer was $540,000.  The buyer backed out when they saw the disclosures, but I think they might have moved forward if I'd have had that air test to show them.  That mistake cost me $15K in additional profit.  Live and learn, I guess, but it doesn't change the fact that this was a pretty successful flip.

I'm ready for another one of these!

Congrats, Brian. What do you think the house would sell for in as-is condition if it would be listed on MLS when you first saw it? This is the second time in 10 years that I hear somebody made over 150k on the flip

Thanks for sharing, Arlan. Lets see how many more honest people can respond to my question.

Post: Challenge ! - 200k in 24 hours. Follow my challenge for fun

Pavel SakuretsPosted
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  • Minneapolis, MN
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Originally posted by @Westin Hudnall:

Didn't bit my goal but happy with the results. Found 130k with no points ! (Interest only) for anyone who kept us with this today :)

 Offer to an investor to split profits 50/50. There is a higher chance to make 50% of profit and get the money or get 0. 

Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Based on your numbers you should drop the price to $100,150.

 Excellent idea, why didn't I think about that? It's so simple to bring a check for 150k to closing when you sell :-)

BPers, please, please provide any ideas how I can move/sell/rent out a building in down town Hopkins MN

4000 sq ft retail, the rent is below the market, very few showing, selling 200k below my costs (even though I thought I bought it very cheap in 2011)

This was a very slow year for us on flips. We did only 16. From 16 we only sold 14 and 2 were sold to rent to own tenants.

Margins ranged from minus 3k on one :) to 23k on most profitable one.

What are you guys making?