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Marc Rice has started 3 posts and replied 1730 times.

Post: Considerations when selling.

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Quote from @Daniel Baker:

Hello everyone, 

Looking to get a little insight into what things I should take into account when selling a property. Short version... I have owned this property for 8 years, 7 as a rental property. Monthly cash flow is positive. There is an offer to buy but if I include everything I've spent over the years, mortgage P&I, taxes, insurance, HOA, and recent repairs, I will just break even. How much net profit in general should I look for on a long term buy and hold rental property like this? Thanks in advance, look forward to being a part of the BiggerPockets community. DB


It depends on your goals, but generally, a long-term rental should ideally provide a solid return on investment beyond just breaking even. If you’ve had steady positive cash flow for years, that’s already a win. Selling at breakeven (excluding cash flow) isn’t necessarily a loss.Look at how much equity you've built and the true appreciation of the property. A 6%+ annual appreciation rate is decent. Could you reinvest profits into a higher-yielding property? If the return elsewhere is better, selling may make sense. Factor in capital gains tax (unless using a 1031 exchange) and depreciation recapture, which can reduce your net profit. Most investors target a 10-15% ROI on total investment when selling a long-term rental. If you’re just breaking even, it may be worth holding unless you have better reinvestment options.

On most of my properties I am break even or $50-100+/mo cash flow per a door.  I plan to hodl for the long term

Post: 1st time REI ready to make first purchase!

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Quote from @India H.:

Hey! I'm not new to REI and I've been talking about getting my first property for several years now. I'm finally ready. I found a property on an auction site that I'd like to bid on. I'm looking to use it as an investment, not a primary residence. I'm considering using hard money lenders or DSCR loans, but it seems like DSCR would be a bit complex. I'd also like to try to purchase with a land trust or my LLC. Any recommendations for hard money lenders? Thanks.

I have some great local portfolio lenders, DSCR lenders, conventional lenders, and commercial lenders who are competitive. I can shoot you a PM with their info.

Post: Glad to Join the BiggerPockets Community!

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Quote from @Max Martynenko:

Hi everyone! My name is Max, and I’m from Odesa, Ukraine. I’m a professional civil engineer with years of experience in construction and entrepreneurship. Although I don’t have experience in house flipping yet, I’ve successfully run a construction business back home.

Due to the war, my family and I had to search for a new place to live. During this journey, I discovered the world of house flipping and real estate investing in the U.S. Right now, I’m actively learning and planning to start my first projects this year. I’m truly excited to have found this amazing platform and such a supportive community!

Where I’m Focusing: Ohio (Dayton and Cincinnati) — I already have trusted partners for renovation and construction.
Investment Strategies: I’m interested in fix-and-flip and BRRRR.
Open to Networking: Real estate agents, investors, contractors, and anyone passionate about real estate.
My Goal: To learn from experienced investors, share ideas, and build a scalable real estate business.

Looking forward to connecting and learning from this great community!


It sounds like your background in construction gives you a strong advantage in house flipping and BRRRR investing. Since you're focusing on Dayton and Cincinnati, you'll find plenty of opportunities in those markets. If you ever need help analyzing deals, running comps etc, let me know—happy to assist!

Post: Can an Ohio Lender Beat a 6.75% on an Invetment Property?

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Quote from @Aj Green:

Hey,

(Posting again as I sign today so it is urgent)

Is there any cheaper lender than a 6.75% for an Ohio investment property.

No brokers fees, 110k, no points, 760+ credit score, 20% down, 140k value, no realtors, single family, rent covers mortgage, 30 year term fixed.

Thanks for the help! I assumed this would be the cheapest out there.


I have some great local portfolio lenders, DSCR lenders, conventional lenders, and commercial lenders who are competitive and should be able to beat 6.75%. I can shoot you a PM with their info.

Post: Starting with a Friend (LLC?)

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Quote from @Melissa Stanley:

I’m hoping to purchase a few properties with a friend/business partner but after meeting with a lawyer am even more confused. Any advice on what setup is easiest and most tax advantaged?


I’m a high income W2 earner getting hosed on taxes (currently own 5 properties). My business partner owns a roofing company but has weak credit and more limited cash flow.

Honestly it's really best to speak with a CPA to go over what strategy would be best for you and him. I mainly use LLC's taxed as partnerships. Since you're a high-income W2 earner, you may be limited to passive losses write offs only. You can ask your CPA on the cost segregation short term rental loophole.

If your partners credit is bad but you have cash, you can just cosign for the loan or go DSCR/hard money.

Dayton is a solid market for BRRRR investing.

Post: I’ve now completed 1.5 evictions on medium term rentals, and I’m not changing a thing

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Quote from @Julie Gates:

There is no way to do background checks since the best platforms for this investment strategy don't support such a thing. The best thing you can do to reduce evictions is keep your price point high. I wouldn't do them in rougher areas at all, just find long term tenants and background check them the traditional way.


 Makes sense thank you!

Post: First Deal in Need of Second Opinion

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Quote from @Brendan Lim:

Hey everyone, 

I'm a first time real estate investor looking to close my first deal in Columbus, OH. I've got a lot of conflicting ideas bouncing around in my head, and I'm afraid I'm falling into analysis paralysis.

Are there any experienced real estate investors in Columbus, OH who would be interested connecting? 

I know that real estate is super specific to the locale, and I'd love to hop on a quick call with someone who has context in the Columbus market.

Without digging too much into the details, I'm under contract for a duplex in the Franklinton area. The units are pretty much turnkey, but my analysis shows that the property will barely break even. In short, this would be an entirely appreciation-based investment.

Given the state of the economy today, with high interest rates and the seller-buyer lock out effect, I want to discuss the pros and cons of this investment at length, specifically in the context of all the other properties / neighborhoods that I have been evaluating. 

I feel that I don't have enough experience to know if I could do better or worse. At the same time, I feel that time is against me. People always say the best time to invest in real estate was last year. 


 Columbus is very hard to cash flow in and most people are buying properties here for the stability and appreciation - not the cash flow. I'd be happy to review the deal numbers with you. Franklinton can be spotty depending on what street you're on.

Post: Househacking in high property tax areas, your thoughts?

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Quote from @Amber Moelter:

Hi all, I'm new to BP and REI. My spouse and I moved to Ohio last year and we're currently renting in Akron, with the goal to househack by the end of the lease, or sooner if we find the right property.

We've been going to duplex open houses in Cleveland & Akron and a few showings with our agent who has more experience in the Akron area, to learn about neighborhoods, price, quality, etc. Setting expectations. 

We're leaning toward Cleveland, gravitating to the Cleveland & Shaker Heights B neighborhoods, both for ourselves and for family/professional leaning tenants. I'm curious why those areas aren't recommended in the forum. Is it the high property taxes? Is it the POS? We've seen some lengthy POS with $15K+ escrows and we've seen others that will come with completed POS. We're incorporating the prop taxes & POS costs into our overall calculations.

Buy box:

Location:
Approx. 30 min drive to Boston Heights, for work
Neighborhoods: 
Decent walkability score - not far from shops/restaurants/trendy neighborhoods
Ideal tenants:
Close to hospitals/universities/schools for professionals/students/families
Budget: $175-250K - Buying w/conventional loan, 5% down/ approx 20K reno.
Property type: MFH 2-4 units - preferably side-by-side, with a yard we can fence for our dog
Units:
3+/1+ - better if 1.5/2 bath per unit
Timeline:
 Plan to live there for 2 years, but possibly only 1 year if we find another investment opportunity
Goal:
Focus on appreciation - would like to see cash flow in year 2-3 (the year we move out), including overhead (Vacancies, Maintenance, Utilities) and budgeting in PM if eventually we don't manage ourselves
Value add:
Opportunity for some forced appreciation, but not a full reno - cosmetic upgrades and updating kitchens/baths while we live in one unit. If vacant, upgrade the other unit before leasing. We have $20K for immediate reno, and would continue in our unit over time.
Parking:
2+ car garage (ideally 1 spot per unit)
Personal taste:
We gravitate to historical details (wood floor, built-ins, and curb appeal) and don't like flipped vibe, with LVP and grey paint. We'd paint, regardless, and prefer wood floor that may need refinishing. We tend to gravitate to long-term owner-occupied properties, which are overdue for aesthetic updating, but well cared
What else? What are we overlooking?

When looking at neighborhoods the main test for us is would we want to live there for 1-2 years? We're balancing areas that will see some development for appreciation, while also being decent enough to live there now and attract desirable tenants. Cleveland Heights so far has been checking those boxes with hospitals/universities. Shaker seems a bit more restrictive with POS and taxes, but more family-oriented for the schools. 

Thanks in advance for your feedback, for either advice on Cleveland neighborhoods or first time househacking, or anything else we might be overlooking.


 Cleveland is a good market and if you're in B class areas you'll generally have a better experience despite the lower cash flow. 

Just be cognizant of point of sale inspections on some of these neighborhoods and inevitable lead certs.

Post: I’ve now completed 1.5 evictions on medium term rentals, and I’m not changing a thing

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Quote from @Julie Gates:

Medium term rentals are the new darling of short term rentals. As a large chunk of the American workforce can now work from anywhere, investors are scrambling to provide great places for these digital nomads to explore a new city. As a property manager in Savannah, GA who has been hosting these guests for longer than 7 years, I’ve spoken publicly many times on the lack of concern about guests becoming squatters. Guests are paying for an entire month up front, not an easy task. Guests are rarely coming to party. They are working or they are retirees looking to have some fun. For years paying the bill wasn’t an issue.

However, as inventory has ballooned, prices have decreased. The increased frequency of these longer stays has brought with it increased issues. One of the biggest concerns for both the owner and the property manager like myself, is getting paid.

Many guests book for much longer than 30 nights. A travel nurse, for example, would typically stay 90 nights on a single contract. It is a great advantage to the guest and also the host to split the stay into several payments. Guests rarely have the entire amount ready to put down. Also, the home owner most likely has a mortgage and receiving a large amount of cash and then not spending it for 3 months can be more challenging than you’d think. I’ve been in this situation and with a growing portfolio and expenses, it’s hard to put money aside for two mortgage payments.

At Sid Was Here, my management company, we’ve always offered to let guests pay into the future for longer stays. This is very non traditional in the short term rental space, as all stays are paid in advance. The host knows they will get paid. Airbnb was the first of the OTA’s (Outside Travel Agents) to offer payments into the future for guests. This ballooned the amount of guests booking longer stays on their platform, and pushed them into being an industry leader in the medium term rental space.

My company has had a few struggles with payments, both with direct bookings and also for guests staying through AirBNB. When you have an AirBNB guest who hasn’t paid, you wake up one morning to a terrible message saying that AirBNB has failed to capture payment from guest Mr. X. They will continue trying to reach the guest for payment, but the host now has the right to cancel the stay without penalty and may remove the guest from the home. This is a nice way of saying, “Good morning, Julie. We tried, but you’re on your own with this Mr. X.” Thanks, AirBNB! These are dark moments for hosts and property managers alike. In AirBNB’s defense, I also get the same drop in blood pressure when someone on my team tells me that a direct booking guest, Mr. X’s card was declined and he is now late on a payment for his medium term rental. At the end of the day, the problems are the same, just on different platforms. If you think that bad guests are only on one platform, you are dead wrong and that’s the truth.

Enter in the evictions. I want to say truthfully that these are extremely rare. We have hosted thousands of medium term rental guests and we have completed the eviction on all of 1 guest. That statistic isn’t bad in my opinion. The second one that I would call half of an eviction was a guest who kept blowing us off on making the payment that was getting later by the day. I was having nightmares about calling the owner. No one wants to hear this and I don’t want him to ever think that we haven’t done everything in our power to get the money out of the guest. In Georgia, we send what’s called a Quit or Pay notice of eviction. This is an official letter that the eviction process has begun and they need to either pay or leave the property. This happens on day 7 after the payment is due, and notifies the guest that we will be filing an eviction in the court system on day 30. Our best leverage is that this will place the word eviction onto their credit history, which is huge as you can imagine. The second time around, the Quit or Pay notice worked and the guest was able to produce a credit card that would take the payment. The first guest that I mentioned went through the full eviction process and left before being removed by the sheriff.

Since I’m telling stories here, I’ll also tell you that I am one of the rare hosts who has successfully evicted a short term rental guest as well. We had a guest stay for a few nights, then cancel the stay early through AirBNB. For short term rental booking that is cancelled early, the guest is to leave on the day of cancellation and the host will not get paid for any additional nights. In this case, the guest refused to leave. He had some colorful language and quite a few magical reasons that he didn’t have to leave. I knew the law and used it to my advantage. A short term rental is technically a hotel and falls under hotel laws. I called the City of Savannah Police Department and explained who I was. I told them that I had a guest in a licensed short term rental who was refusing to leave. Two deputies were there within 30 minutes and removed the guest for me. I had a front row seat to some drama and learned a few new words that day, but the guest was removed with no damage to the home. The best thing that I did that day was let the officers do their job and they came through for me beautifully. I showed them all paperwork and explained the situation and they took it from there. Was it fun? Absolutely not. Did I get a great story out of it? Unequivocally yes.

These situations weren’t fun, but keep in mind that I have successfully hosted thousands of guests in these homes with great success. Like the review system that we all despise, most guests are great and you’ll never hear about them. It’s only the crazy ones that make for great stories. Short term and medium term rentals have been a huge part of my portfolio growth and I have no intention of stopping my work in this space, despite these situations. Real estate is a business and bad things are going to happen when you are going big. Put your head down and get through them. Know that people like me will be here to support you on platforms like Bigger Pockets whenever you do hit an issue like these.

@Julie Gates I wanted to recirculate this thread to see if you had any advice/tips on how you've been able to keep such a low eviction rate in the MTR space? Do you do background/credit score checks on all applicants and have minimums? Leases? ID verification?

We have some more affordable studio units that I fear will attract the budget concise crowd which could get some guests not able to afford the next 30 days payments and have to be evicted.

Would appreciate any advice!

Post: First time REI out of state investor

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Quote from @Byoung Bae:

I have a goal to buy my first investment real estate property in 2025. I live in CA and own my primary residence. I am not interested house-hacking. Primary goal for investing in real estate to grow my wealth (not to replace my W2 job).

As the first investment, I want a safer investment with a goal to break even in 12 months and focus on learning & long-term cashflow/appreciation. My budget for the first property is $50k ~ $100k. With this budget and my goals, I ruled out CA and looking out of state. With my budget and goals, I am looking at SFR in Indianapolis and Michigan (Detroit area, Lansing). Any suggestions on how to get started, some risks to be aware of?

I am reading BiggerPockets forum and I get a lot of information, with somewhat divergent recommendations. Some specific questions I have:

1. What should be the number first step after picking a market? I am looking at listings online, running my numbers. Many of them barely hit the "1% rule".

2. Assuming I purchased a property, how do I find renters? Do I lean 100% on the property manager to find renters? How do I know the vacancy rate / how long it took to find renters for comparable properties? This would be one of the most important inputs for "running your numbers".

3. Many suggest to "build a team" for out of state investor (e.g. realor, PM, handyman, etc). How do I go about doing this? Who is the most important member/first I should focus on?

Any other generic recommendation / tips are appreciated. Thanks in advance!


1. Most high growth markets like Indianapolis or Columbus won't hit 1% rules in good areas. You're trading high growth/stability for lack of cash flow.

2. You'd use a trusted property manager, usually referred from your rockstar investor friendly agent. Average vacancy rate is probably 5-8% depending on how good your manager is and if they pre-lease before the tenants move out or not. You can look up comparable rents on active zillow for rent listings or on Rentometer.

3. You can use the BP agent finder or ask on here for a good realtor referral. Usually they have good PM, contractors, and lenders for you to use.

Overall the biggest recommendation is to narrow on a market and just commit to buying a deal there and learning.