All Forum Posts by: Angel Hagen
Angel Hagen has started 4 posts and replied 51 times.
Post: Hitting the Ground Running in KC..... Looking to Connect & Network
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- Belton, MO
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- Votes 41
I’m not out of state but in KC. We acquire off-market real estate—including single-family homes, mobile homes, and small parks—using creative strategies like seller financing and subject-to. The focus is on building long-term value through the creation of notes and cash-flowing assets, not short-term flips or traditional rentals.
I structure deals that support sustainable homeownership and income generation, often without banks. I’m always open to connecting with aligned partners—“financial friends” who value creative approaches. Reach out if you want to chat more.
Post: I really don't like google business services
- Investor
- Belton, MO
- Posts 55
- Votes 41
Quote from @Tony Bacon:
Quote from @Oleg Donets:
@Tony Bacon I'd not recommend Twillio. It is too complex for an average user and is mainly designed for web developers to integrate with web applications.
If you are looking for some really user friendly tool, try Launch Control. However, there are quite a few user friendly tools out there. I wrote an extensive guide on this topic.
If interested, let me know and I'll send you a DM. I can't post the link to my post here.
I'm at the point, I have an extra sim lying around, I may just switch my business phone to that text all the leads I have and be done with it. So far, i've actually had like 3 leads from 50 contacts it, so if these numbers play out, once I get through all 700 I have I'll be turning work down and won't have to do it again, so i don't really need a long term solution in this case. I'm not currently using my personal cell because I used to travel out of state for projects and both of my phones are area coded in different states, lol.
I checked on the phone system I use which is Dialpad and it looks like the opt out would still be required with that system as well. It seems like the regulators are pushing hard on the service providers to be compliant so even if we do not believe it is necessary. I am not sure how you solve this problem.
Post: I really don't like google business services
- Investor
- Belton, MO
- Posts 55
- Votes 41
I use a CRM to email and text real estate agents. I can set up my workflows to drip mode which releases them every few minutes. It keeps campaigns from getting flagged as spam. I do still have to include the opt out.
Message me if you want more information.
Post: I really don't like google business services
- Investor
- Belton, MO
- Posts 55
- Votes 41
Quote from @Tony Bacon:
Oh! Thank you for reaching out.
That's actually why I am looking at twilio - I am a web developer...
*spent the last four years teaching myself how to code in my spare time - construction by day, coding by night lol*
I like twilio because I can access the api and upload a simple csv and the cost per text is like .0072, which isn't awful. For my full 700 contacts its like $5.80 or something?
My complaint with them right now is I am now required by law to add an "opt out" button? That's going to ruin my campaign, I just want to do a simple, "hey, i saw you on zillow" not like a multi touch thing. Idk, little mad about this, I may look for a different service that doesn't require opt outs.
Post: Marketing Campaign Real Estate Agents
- Investor
- Belton, MO
- Posts 55
- Votes 41
Quote from @Tony Bacon:
Sending 700 outbound messages today. WOULD LOVE TO AUTOMATE IT, but apparently google voice gets mad so MANUAL it is.
Sigh, well check back in in 3 hours or however long this takes me
I use a business CRM to automate. If you are interested in costs and what it takes to set it up, message me.
Post: Looking for Kansas City Real Estate Attorney Recommendation
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- Belton, MO
- Posts 55
- Votes 41
There are two who are vendors of the REIA. Anderson and Associates and Stover Law. Google them.
Post: Anyone ever heard of Point HEI?
- Investor
- Belton, MO
- Posts 55
- Votes 41
I have not heard of them, but I took a look at their website. It doesn't look like something overly valuable for an investor. They target homeowners. I ran the calculator and the example is if you take out $50k and pay it back in two years, you owe them $72k. That is credit card interest rates. I am not sure how this is helpful to most people now that I think about it.
Post: Virtual assistant template
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- Belton, MO
- Posts 55
- Votes 41
The other part of me is a business coach and if the system works for you then it is a good system. It sounds like your questions are not so much about your system, but on the criteria that you have set? I am happy to take a look, but being an AI junkie, I would take a snapshot of your spreadsheet, load it into ChatGPT and ask the questions you have asked us. I usually get some great insight when I do this.
You can also use AI to prioritize your lists. I did this with vacant houses that I wanted to physically visit and leave flyers for. If you get the prompts right, your VA and AI can do the "cherry-picking" for you eventually.
Good luck!!
Post: Opportunity for Guidance on Wrapping Seller-Financed Deal in Georgia
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- Belton, MO
- Posts 55
- Votes 41
There is a lot here that is concerning to me, but maybe it is because I don't understand. 1. You have already taken the house subject to another loan so you have the deed? 2. You are trusting that the seller who sold to you is going to pay off the $17000 lien that is in 1st position? In what timeframe will this happen? 3. There is a renter paying $1800 per month; what is the term on the lease and is that market rent?
That 1st position lien could cause a lot of problems. Other than his agreement and a contract that may or may not be enforceable, what is his incentive to keep these payments current? What is your plan if and when he defaults?
Now what is your exit strategy? What are your reserves? In my calculations if the rent is $1800 about $720 per month needs to be reserved for your rental expenses (taxes, insurance, capex, PM) so at the rate you are agreeing to, it technically does not cash flow, you are negative from the jump.
Are you selling this to an owner occupant or an investor who will keep the house as a rental? If the investor is renting at $1800 he will be even more negative than you are, which is not a good place for either of you. If it is an owner occupant there are Dodd Frank issues looming
I realize I am not answering your questions, but I am not sure how to underwrite it if the first purchase and contract was not done correctly. If you can take out the $17k first position lien you may be able to sell your note to a note buyer. I am happy to look at it from that vantage point.
Good luck!!
Post: Pace Morby and his gator lending tribe
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- Belton, MO
- Posts 55
- Votes 41
Quote from @Account Closed:
I joined Pace's Gator tribe in January and have learned a great deal about funding wholesalers EMD and private money lending. I have made some money, but more so on the private money lending side which Pace really has not delved into thus far, although, we are told more specific training is coming on this. I work directly with other private lenders who have been doing this far longer than Pace's program who have established a great track record of ongoing incoming deals and have legal systems in place. Convenient is the word I would use for PCS. They are best for anyone who just wants to get their entities set up properly with the correct documentation and anonymity and move forward. Being new to real estate, I was not aware of articles of organization and operating agreements etc. And they handle all of this for you. They also provide tax services which I do not use, too expensive, and help you establish lines of credit for your business. Can't speak to this as I really have not seen the benefit so far. What I can say is, I have made back what I paid into the program and have been welcomed into a community of like-minded people who go out of their way to help and bring each other deals. There's always going to be that one person here or there that Is all about themselves, but I can honestly say I have not met them yet in this community. My network has grown substantially in the real estate space, through Pace I have made many friends, and have learned a great deal about creative finance along the way. Take that for what it is. I am naturally an introvert and so this community has helped me come out of my shell. Paces staff works diligently to answer all questions in a timely manner, I have even reached out to pace on Instagram myself and he has answered my questions personally. Weekly live zooms and trainings are happening all the time. There's a lot of hand holding that goes on, no one is left behind. New people come into the community all the time and it has gotten quite competitive out there for lending, but if you can build a rapport with fix and flippers and wholesalers and you are fair in what you charge as a return on their lending request, you will have a borrower for life. And repeat business is the name of the game. Please feel free to ask me any additional questions, I'm happy to share what I've learned.
Thanks for sharing. It sounds like you have found value in the program. That is great! It just doesn't sound much different than what I have gotten from my local REIA.