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All Forum Posts by: Matthew Morrow

Matthew Morrow has started 51 posts and replied 428 times.

Post: 4 out of 5 new tenants evicted or arrested....

Matthew Morrow
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Quote from @Charles Carillo:

@Matthew Morrow

I have seen similar situations when the previous owner/seller loads the property with unqualified occupants. During the due diligence process, did the buyer walk the property, unit by unit? Usually, you can speak to some of the tenants during a walk-through. Also, did they run the current tenants through state databases looking for previous evictions? These are a couple of things we do during our lease audit process.

This is a prime example of why investors need reserve funds. If they have the funds to evict and re-rent to good tenants, they have solved the problem. Without reserves, they might be unable to evict tenants or prepare the units once they are vacant.



Great points—walking the property and speaking with tenants during due diligence is a practice we now prioritize, along with running tenant histories through eviction databases. These steps can reveal potential issues upfront.

You’re spot on about reserves; they’re critical for navigating situations like this. Having the funds to handle evictions and turn units quickly is the key to stabilizing the property and protecting the investment. This experience has been a tough reminder of why those measures are non-negotiable.



Post: 4 out of 5 new tenants evicted or arrested....

Matthew Morrow
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Quote from @Breeya Johnson:

Hey Matthew! that is horrible. What have you've done to tighten up your due diligence process to make sure that does not happen again? I would love to learn from this if you are willing to share. Also, can you sue the previous broker and seller for failure to disclose or at least report it to the local board?



Thanks for the support! We’ve since implemented stricter due diligence practices, like deeper tenant screening, verifying payment histories, and cross-checking financials with third-party records. As for legal action, we're exploring options for misrepresentation and considering a report to the local board if warranted. Always happy to share lessons learned!

Post: 4 out of 5 new tenants evicted or arrested....

Matthew Morrow
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Quote from @Sarah Brown:

Were the tenants brand new during the due diligence period?  Did the seller not provide honest financials?  Generally, both of these situations don't just happen overnight.  Since many have been evicted or arrested, be grateful you get to get new tenants and stabilize the property.  Use it as an opportunity to add value to the property. 

Great perspective—turning this into an opportunity to stabilize the property and add value is key. If the seller provided dishonest financials or tenant histories, that’s something to investigate further, as it could support a claim for misrepresentation. Challenges like this can ultimately set the stage for a better-performing asset in the long run.

Post: 4 out of 5 new tenants evicted or arrested....

Matthew Morrow
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Quote from @Tanya Solomon:
Quote from @Henry Lazerow:

Sue the seller, any payment delinquencies should have been disclosed. Especially if seller just received a windfall from the sale it is definitely worth suing for damages. Can name their brokerage in there also to go after insurance. 


 OP said: It’s frustrating, especially because our due diligence came back clean, leases were solid, and the property had just been fully renovated. Unfortunately, the previous owner (who was also a licensed agent) didn’t accurately represent the tenant situation.

These statements contradict themselves. Maybe get it straight b4 paying an attorney a retainer to sue and or choose an attorney who can and will go after EVERY possible avenue to make your client legally/$ whole. IMO Most of the time, people lose lawsuits or settle for much less due to laziness and lack of rock-solid knowledge about the illicit/illegal acts the opposing side committed.  

For instance, how did the due diligence "come back as clean" and the "leases were solid" if the rent was not paid up to date and paid REGULARLY?  Im not an attorney or anything close to it but it seems a simple P&L statement that is broken down monthly could reveal the tenants not paying their rent on time enough to warrant eviction. If even 1 tenant was not paying on time, it would report a loss. Then a "surge" when the tenant paid up months later bc usually a tenant has to not only fall behind but MONTHS of rent have to go largely unpaid to warrant eviction.

If the P&Ls were "doctored" by the seller, that seems like pretty big cause. Also, was there a background check on the tenants possibly having criminal backgrounds and or background check to determine if the tenants had ever been evicted in the past? Seems like that would reveal the tenant(s) that have since been arrested (and presumably jailed/prison long enough to "lose" the lease/apt). 

You prob will start off in arbitration and if that does not yield a good result, go to court. I hope you help your client with this bc in a way, you helped them get into this mess. Not only is it the right thing to do to help them get their legal ducks in a row about knowing SPECIFICALLY what the seller did wrong, ie did not disclose and can prove it was done for the sole purpose of deception to make the sale "smoother" but it can help you look good and have you learn how to avoid in the future (as you say "tighten up your due diligence")

It sucks when agents "help" 1st time or largely inexperienced buyers long enough to make the sale and get their commission but then peace out on the client when something like this happens.It It seems like you are attempting to do the right thing which is admirable bc at the end of the day, the court system is the closest thing to a "business police" that ppl can get. 

This is why in addition to apathy that bad players get away with as much as they do as frequently as they do. It is not easy to sue. It takes time and work. In any deal/investment that goes south like this, your/buyer's side is responsible bc "buyer beware" is as old as time. It sucks to admit that there wasn't tight oversite on the deal to ferret this out b4 the sale happened and its subsequent consequences and it sucks for your client that they have made, for at least the time being, an investment that is not going to be in the black in the immediate future. 

I hope you and the buyer are successful in going after the seller. As H. Lazerow said if you act promptly, the seller will have a greater likelihood of having some of the "windfall $" to pay your client when a judgment or decision in your camp's favor is rendered. Usually, acting promptly has little downside. 



You bring up some great points, especially about the importance of thorough due diligence. If P&Ls were manipulated or tenant histories weren’t properly vetted, that’s a serious issue and could form the basis of a strong misrepresentation claim. Gaps in rent payments or undisclosed tenant issues should have been red flags.

It’s good to see the OP trying to help their client navigate this, as acting promptly is critical for any chance of recovery. This situation highlights why working with a solid team and prioritizing financial and tenant verification is essential. Hopefully, the client can find a resolution and use this as a learning opportunity to avoid similar issues in the future.



Post: Startup Property Management- Looking for Software Options

Matthew Morrow
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Quote from @Simon W.:
Quote from @Matthew Morrow:
Quote from @Simon W.:
Quote from @Matthew Morrow:
Quote from @Simon W.:
Quote from @Matthew Morrow:

Hi everyone,

We’re launching a property management company early next year (PA), but we’ve run into a bit of a roadblock with software. We’re big fans of AppFolio, but they won’t demo or consider a new account until we have 50 active doors. While we’ll be close to that number soon, we don’t want to jump the gun.

Are there any other platforms you’d recommend as a temporary solution for managing fewer doors until we hit that 50-door mark?

Thanks!


Congrats - Buildium will work but AppFolio would be a better choice. The transitions will be a pain though if you were to set everything up in Buildium and decide to switch over to AppFolio later on.

I didn't know you were in Allentown lol

If you know how to use AppFolio already, you should just wait until you hit the 50 units and go with them. Learning a whole new platform isn't fun. I am still using them both. 

Disclaimer: I am not a PM, I consult and handle the books for clients that uses them.

 Hey @Simon W.

Thanks for the info! We’ve quickly realized that reaching the 50-door milestone will be easy. For the first 49 doors, we’ll be running an in-house system as a beta before transitioning to AppFolio, which is clearly the best long-term solution without needing to restart the entire setup.

Lehigh Valley is definitely home—it’s where all our businesses and rentals are based, and our team/brokerage operates here too, with plans to expand statewide soon. We feel incredibly fortunate and excited for what’s ahead!


Sounds awesome. If you ever need help with consulting or reviewing the financials, I can stop by!


 Sure thing. I noticed your from here and NY. What type of consultation / ops to you do?

I help PM firm scale and help streamline their procedures. I make sure the accounting side of AppFolio is headed to the right direction in terms of SOP. I also do like fraction CFO work so I can oversee/manage the controller and the accounting dept. 

You don't know how many times I've seen PM companies not entering receipts correctly. Move outs can mess up the accounting big time. There is a section in AppFolio called Financial Diagnostic that a lot of people even look at. This is a big piece to make sure accounts are tied out. It isn't 100% correct but majority of it tells you what you need to fix.

I was from NYC and moved to PA like 6 years ago. 


 Awesome. Thank you!!

Post: Startup Property Management- Looking for Software Options

Matthew Morrow
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Quote from @Simon W.:
Quote from @Matthew Morrow:
Quote from @Simon W.:
Quote from @Matthew Morrow:

Hi everyone,

We’re launching a property management company early next year (PA), but we’ve run into a bit of a roadblock with software. We’re big fans of AppFolio, but they won’t demo or consider a new account until we have 50 active doors. While we’ll be close to that number soon, we don’t want to jump the gun.

Are there any other platforms you’d recommend as a temporary solution for managing fewer doors until we hit that 50-door mark?

Thanks!


Congrats - Buildium will work but AppFolio would be a better choice. The transitions will be a pain though if you were to set everything up in Buildium and decide to switch over to AppFolio later on.

I didn't know you were in Allentown lol

If you know how to use AppFolio already, you should just wait until you hit the 50 units and go with them. Learning a whole new platform isn't fun. I am still using them both. 

Disclaimer: I am not a PM, I consult and handle the books for clients that uses them.

 Hey @Simon W.

Thanks for the info! We’ve quickly realized that reaching the 50-door milestone will be easy. For the first 49 doors, we’ll be running an in-house system as a beta before transitioning to AppFolio, which is clearly the best long-term solution without needing to restart the entire setup.

Lehigh Valley is definitely home—it’s where all our businesses and rentals are based, and our team/brokerage operates here too, with plans to expand statewide soon. We feel incredibly fortunate and excited for what’s ahead!


Sounds awesome. If you ever need help with consulting or reviewing the financials, I can stop by!


 Sure thing. I noticed your from here and NY. What type of consultation / ops to you do?

Post: Startup Property Management- Looking for Software Options

Matthew Morrow
Posted
  • Investor
  • Pennsylvania
  • Posts 433
  • Votes 160
Quote from @Simon W.:
Quote from @Matthew Morrow:

Hi everyone,

We’re launching a property management company early next year (PA), but we’ve run into a bit of a roadblock with software. We’re big fans of AppFolio, but they won’t demo or consider a new account until we have 50 active doors. While we’ll be close to that number soon, we don’t want to jump the gun.

Are there any other platforms you’d recommend as a temporary solution for managing fewer doors until we hit that 50-door mark?

Thanks!


Congrats - Buildium will work but AppFolio would be a better choice. The transitions will be a pain though if you were to set everything up in Buildium and decide to switch over to AppFolio later on.

I didn't know you were in Allentown lol

If you know how to use AppFolio already, you should just wait until you hit the 50 units and go with them. Learning a whole new platform isn't fun. I am still using them both. 

Disclaimer: I am not a PM, I consult and handle the books for clients that uses them.

 Hey @Simon W.

Thanks for the info! We’ve quickly realized that reaching the 50-door milestone will be easy. For the first 49 doors, we’ll be running an in-house system as a beta before transitioning to AppFolio, which is clearly the best long-term solution without needing to restart the entire setup.

Lehigh Valley is definitely home—it’s where all our businesses and rentals are based, and our team/brokerage operates here too, with plans to expand statewide soon. We feel incredibly fortunate and excited for what’s ahead!

Post: Startup Property Management- Looking for Software Options

Matthew Morrow
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  • Pennsylvania
  • Posts 433
  • Votes 160
Quote from @Sean O'Keefe:
Quote from @Matthew Morrow:

Hi everyone,

We’re launching a property management company early next year (PA), but we’ve run into a bit of a roadblock with software. We’re big fans of AppFolio, but they won’t demo or consider a new account until we have 50 active doors. While we’ll be close to that number soon, we don’t want to jump the gun.

Are there any other platforms you’d recommend as a temporary solution for managing fewer doors until we hit that 50-door mark?

Thanks!

Buildium

 Had a few mention this. Any benefits youve seen? 

Post: Startup Property Management- Looking for Software Options

Matthew Morrow
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  • Pennsylvania
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Quote from @Adam Bartomeo:

I HIGHLY recommend partnering with an established PMC. There are a lot of companies nationwide looking to expand and have local operators. They can guide you through the tough issues and help you avoid mistakes. There are so many poorly run PMC's because they don't take this advice.


 Youre talking about using a national brand and implementing on local level?

Post: Startup Property Management- Looking for Software Options

Matthew Morrow
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Quote from @Nathan Gesner:

I don't think Propertyware is an option. They were bought out by Buildium a few years ago. Although they are separate platforms, Propertyware recently forced smaller PM companies to move to Buildium so that only larger companies are on Propertyware. 

Regardless, Buildium is the better option and they will remain a great option even if you have 300 doors.


 Great info. Thanks. will look further into this