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All Forum Posts by: Michael Ealy

Michael Ealy has started 68 posts and replied 1506 times.

Post: Small Deals Mean Wasting Time & Making Small Money

Michael EalyPosted
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  • Cincinnati, OH
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Originally posted by @Jeff C.:

Michael,

Can you tell us how many deals you've done with inexperienced partners to get to where you are today and tell us about the most recent deal you made with someone new to real estate investing? What made you decide to incur greater risk with these partners instead of mitigate risk by partnering with experienced and successful investors?

I think this would lend greater credibility to your message and motivate new investors like myself more than stating you know a guy who has $1B in hotels in 10 years. 

The kind of inexperienced partners he has in mind are the kind that will hand him their money to fund his deals. No increased risk with that plan.

 You got it the other way around. I raise the capital not them.

I understand you being skeptical but please do your research and know who you are insulting.

The city of Cincinnati has declared December 14, 2018 as "Michaeal Ealy Day" due to my contributions to Cincinnati's economy. In 2013, my company acquired 28% of all apartment buildings for sale in Cincinnati.

Has your city recognized your economic impact as an investor?

Post: Small Deals Mean Wasting Time & Making Small Money

Michael EalyPosted
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Originally posted by @Anthony Gayden:
Originally posted by @Michael Ealy:

For those of you who don't know me, I have been investing in real estate since 1999 and I have acquired about 3,000 apartment units (and houses) and I still own 1,000 apartment units today.

I also own 45 houses and several plots of land. And I buy hotels all over the country now.

My passive income in one month is more than what an average American makes in 1 year.

And knowing what I know now...here's my realization that may shock some of you:

Small deals (singe family homes and apartment buildings below 10 units) are not good because...

1.  They don't make as much money...

2.  Too much of a hassle for my team to manage (I have in-house property management and construction/renovation companies)...

and

3. Believe it or not, takes up MORE time to manage than the bigger deals

Good thing I transitioned over to bigger deals...specially hotels.

I mean, my latest hotel acquisition already made $160,000 in tax free income with a $1.7 MILLION investment in just 3 months! And I didn't really do anything.

No stress. This is really passive income. If I die tomorrow, my kids will gladly inherit hotels and they can run them because of professional hotel management and their franchised business model.

That's a true legacy.

In contrast, my houses and smaller apartments...at best, I can classify them as "semi-passive" income. My kids will not be able to manage them and maybe even hate me for even sticking them with "problems".

So, the sooner you can transition to BIG deals, the better.

If I get enough responses to this post, I will answer the question: HOW can one go from a small deal to a BIG deal in a hurry?

I will also gladly answer other questions you may have...

Who wants to go first?

You have quite an impressive bio. It sounds like you have been quite successful. I understand your logic in that the bigger deals are less of a hassle and I agree. 

I don't have any questions for you, but I just wanted to say that I respect and admire your success and that you are proof positive that opportunity is out there for everyone. 

 I appreciate the positive energy Anthony. Let's connect via PM.

Post: Small Deals Mean Wasting Time & Making Small Money

Michael EalyPosted
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  • Cincinnati, OH
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Originally posted by @Anna Villalobos:

@Michael Ealy

Thank you so much for your insight, as someone that is much further down the road than I. And absolutely! That was my first question . . . How do I go from smaller to bigger? Is there an important learning curve I would be missing by doing so?

I look forward to hearing more!

 Anna,

Decide for yourself what you're comfortable with and add/double it.

For example, let's say you want to start with a duplex.

Instead - push yourself to start with a 4-plex. That's BIG for you.

Focus on 4-plexes that can add value to - increase the rents by improving management and improving the building. Once you improve the building's financial performance, its value increases - in other words, you are forcing its appreciation.

You can then sell (or 1031 so you don't pay taxes) or refinance your cash out, then move that cash to a bigger property - say 20 units.

Then do the same thing with the 20-units and then move on to 100 units.

Post: Small Deals Mean Wasting Time & Making Small Money

Michael EalyPosted
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Originally posted by @Matt M.:

@Michael Ealy

Thanks for your response. I'm not a newbie, but not all of us have the ability to fund huge deals and not everyone wants to partner. Personally, if I can't buy something myself, I don't want it, I've seen way to many partnerships (not just in RE) go south. I feel like by saying go big or go home, it's giving newbies false hope and setting them up for failure. It's like when people post- I have $1000 how do I get into REI? You don't, you only have $1000. But then there's people who will give 10 ways to do it, then guess what happens, they need $5000 for a furnace and are screwed and broke and have a tenant with no heat. I guess I'm just a realist. I prefer single family houses, I can rehab myself, and have close friends in every aspect of construction if need be. if something in my life requires money I don't have, I can throw one on the market. $100k house will sell way quicker than a $2mil apt complex. And the old saying of "it takes money to make money" plays here also. I can't come up with $100k cash, but I can figure out how to buy SFRs.

 Thanks Matt for sharing your perspective. And I agree: partnerships can go south. I went through a partnership that cost me about $100,000 so I know what you mean. 

Having said that, not all partnerships are bad. I believe in leverage - and leverage is not just borrowing 80% from the bank and putting down the rest. Leverage is using other people's resources - time, money, credit, networth, network, knowledge, expertise, experience, credibility, etc - to achieve what you want. But leverage is a 2-way street: for you to leverage on others, they have to leverage on you.

And yes - newbies might have the wrong impression that only big deals are profitable. Of course that's not the case. All I am saying is that people have limited themselves to thinking they have to start one way when there are other ways to start (and can be more profitable with less work).

Also, big deals is relative. A 4-plex can be a big deal for one but small for another and it depends where you're located in the country too ($1M house in California is a small deal but a big one if you're in Ohio). 

After doing small deals and big deals - I am so glad I did big deals even when it felt uncomfortable. I am glad that even though I got burnt in a partnership before, I didn't let that stop me from partnering with the right people. The right partners have literally made me MILLIONS so my -$100K loss with one bad partnership deal - I consider that my tuition fee :)

Post: I Thought I Had it Made Until This Guy Humbled Me!!!

Michael EalyPosted
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Originally posted by @Daniel Emison:

Will you ever do any webinars later in the day? Thanks!

 Register for it and if the recording goes well...we might be able to send you the recorded video.

However, having said that, I am not a guru so I don't give webinars that often. The recording may not even happen :)

Post: Putting Together a Webinar on Hotel Investing

Michael EalyPosted
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Originally posted by @Stephen Wilson:

@Michael Ealy

Very interested! Yes!

Here's the link to register:

https://nassauinvests.com/hotel-webinar

Post: Putting Together a Webinar on Hotel Investing

Michael EalyPosted
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Originally posted by @Ola Dantis:

@Michael Ealy Interesting, I interviewed someone who is also into Hotel Syndication. 

 There you go - the Universe is telling you something ;)

Hotel cap rates have not decompressed as much as apartments.

So worth looking into. Have you registered?

Post: Small Deals Mean Wasting Time & Making Small Money

Michael EalyPosted
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Originally posted by @Scott Mac:

@Michael Ealy

Hi Michael,

I know of guy who did pretty well for himself with Hotels--ended up winning the vote for the Presidency.

I have a feeling you're on your way to some big dollars with this effort.

How did you (meet) line up investors that were interested in Hotels (or did you educate them on it)?

Good Luck!

Hi Scott, did that guy's name rhyme with "bump"?

I started with my existing apartment investors and yes - I had to educate them on hotels.

Post: Small Deals Mean Wasting Time & Making Small Money

Michael EalyPosted
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Originally posted by @Eli Gilbert:

@Michael Ealy

Hey Michael!

Thank you for being such an inspiration to all us Newbies!

I can understand that the work is the same etc, but the funding problem, I can’t wrap my head around, no bank would find a Newbie for a big deal unless they have massive amounts of capital, and why would an experienced investor want to partner with a Newbie, and why would an investor trust a Newbie with there money when they could just as easily give there money to someone like you that would almost guarantee their good returns!?

Eli, thanks - finally some hard questions for me to answer :)

Experienced investors are always looking for 2 things:

1) Funding; and 2) Deals

If a newbie investor will help me do 1 of 2 (or both) things above, I will gladly partner with him/her.

If I am starting over, I would:

1) Learn how to invest with MF (skip the houses) from experienced investors, starting with my market

2) To help with #1, network like crazy - because KNOW-WHO is even more important than KNOW-HOW

Post: Small Deals Mean Wasting Time & Making Small Money

Michael EalyPosted
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Originally posted by @Matt M.:

@Michael Ealy

I have a question- is the first 3/4 of this post supposed to be an ego boost? Not trying to be rude, and it’s obvious you have done well for yourself, but some of us are more that happy owning SFRs and small multis. I mean, some of us have done pretty well with SFRs, maybe not a years salary in a month but...

 I am just adding perspective to the question being asked. BP has over 1 MILLION members and 99% of them likely don't know me.

I see some newbies who have not done a deal who wants to syndicate an apartment deal and they want to do it by themselves. The answer to a newbie's question like that will be different vs. someone like me who has experience and sharing what I realized.

And sure - you can be happy with SFRs and small multi's. I am just sharing that the work is the same and small deals take up too much valuable time that can be devoted to bigger deals (with bigger profits and ironically LESS work).