All Forum Posts by: Michael Jone

@Russell Brazil

Please stop writing these useless comments. Of course this site has it all. Of course Googling it will find all the answers. According to you, Harvard University education has no value along with all the schools in the world.

You are not the first one to write the exact same comment. You are matter of fact about somewhere in the millionth. Be original. Understand what people are looking for. Care for others. 

Having said that, these people want to hear anyone who had experience of taking same courses or similar courses.

Those are the stuffs right out of Lee Arnold's systems. One of them is copying the other.

It is very expensive $1,500/month? Every education comes with marketing material. VAs are only $5-10 per hour. Team of investor will help you from here and your local REI meetup.

I normally highly recommend others to buy educations but not this one. I checked out the site and does not look professional at all. Most menus lead to one dumb page. Whole website looks like a cheap squeeze page. 

I guess the guru is not doing so great with his education side of the business. He just want to capitalize on few newbies. I even watched his webinar and nothing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING impress me. Normally I get interested after watching the webinar but this guy is a total junk. I really wasted my time. If I were you, I will not waste money.

You can read all my past posts to confirm that I am a big fan of spending money on education. NOT THIS ONE!!!

You should think about it if the price goes down to $15.

I recommend buying $500-$1000 education first. Study it thoroughly. 

I am really against one to one mentoring. Group mentoring? Maybe. However, I definitely highly recommend paid education. I took many and most of them were impressive. 

Many courses comes with some kind of mentoring/consultation. Some gives you 60 minutes and others will give 30 days to one year. You should buy those courses. Also, attend local REI Meetup. Attend free seminars and ask whatever the questions you have during the break time. Ask here on BP and other popular RE online communities. Trying get connected to peer to get peer mentoring.

I first recommend buying some popular education. Study it thoroughly. Then come up with few specific questions. I took many courses and most courses have at least one or more brilliant ideas that can generate thousands of $$$$ if not millions. All the courses that costed me $500 or more had brilliant ideas.

I do not recommend mentors over $2,000. I recommend educations but not one to one mentoring. All mentors are people like you and me; they don't have time. To hold them accountable for keep up their promised sessions, they perform much better under small group setting. These mentors normally have their own REI business, many often has broker business as well, and trying to market their education/mentoring business side at the same time trying to mentor you and few others. Does that make any sense in terms of time management?

I will be more worried about getting refund when you don't get any grants. I don't believe in one on one coaching. They are always lazy and does not keep up their end of promise.

I always prefer small group mentoring over one on one. It always end up too much promise and false statements and not much responsibility. On the other hand, I like gurus live seminar and premium courses. You cannot go wrong with this type of promise. Less than one thousand dollars for both the home study course and live seminar is the best value.

I was considering buying the package but I didn't find much good review on him.

You are  a pilot? Great. Do you have your own plane? 

I am not in "NEVER PAY FOR EDUCATION" camp either. The fastest man, Usain Bolt, and the rest of the competition is less than a second apart. People think any education should be full of new materials. It is simply impossible. We are looking for that split second difference that separates successful investor and rest of the competition. 

Each gurus I learned from mentioned that they attend many other gurus programs to learn new things. Many of them are brilliant. Of course, there were a couple of them that were totally waste of money and time. However, those are such a small percentage of gurus. In general, many gurus taught me some techniques, strategies, systems, and manners I could never have thought of myself. The information can be available on BP, Youtube, and Google. How do you expect to find it if you don't know what you are looking for?

I wish I will be like you in five to ten years. Successful and looking to help other investors. I really appreciate many of your posts and wisdom you bring to BP. Have a fun.

Like I said, I can see your point and understand it. However, I also believe John put a lot of effort into developing the new program. 

I am normally against spending more than $3K in any type of education including mentoring. I hate one on one mentoring. Small group mentoring is much better based on my experience. A mentor normally acts much professional when faced a small group. Keeps up with a schedule. Much more energetic. Many mentors can't even finish their full program when it is one on one.

Anyway, John's new program is worth $35,000. It is a revolutionary way to approach this business. On the other hand, many other company will try to copy his program when the word spreads out. I think RE education business will be a chaos next two or three years.

I really appreciate your Turnkey Reviews site. I utilized it to contact few companies and had a good deal. I read many of your posts. I really respect your opinion. I just thought it was unfair for John to receive such a negative review. After all, he spent much effort to come up with this new program that may help many investors. 

I was there too along with about 200-250 people. 

I usually respect and agree with your posts but this has to be an exception. 

I can see that first 3-4 hours were not as expected. You may not like it if you were expecting new systems. The seminar became very interesting after lunch. Next day, Watson's presentation was exceptional. After lunch, John came back in and start to build up a strong atmosphere to introduce his new program.

i will say the program is revolutionary. it is not for everyone. I can't even tell you exactly what it is since I agreed to "keep the contents of the seminar in vault" as John expressed.

Anyway, that was the end of 2nd day. I was networking with other investors. We stayed until very late at night with the bunch. They were all very down to earth friendly and sincere. I had a lot of fun.

Third day, it was all about the strategies related to the new program. The three day seminar ended at lunch. First day was very long 8am to 8pm. Second day started at 8am and ended around 5pm. Many formed a small group went to restaurants and/or bars. Third day felt very short; it started at 9am and ended at 1pm. I wish it was little longer and unveil little more systems.

If you didn't like economy overview and the big sales pitch, you really had about 8-10 hours of education. The systems he introduced of course is in BP but in very different ways. It is like comparing Red Robin Gourmet Burger and Big Mac. Yup. BP has a burger. It is not the same. My eight year old loves Spaghetti Os. I like the one at Maggiano's spaghetti. 

John may be rude but I strongly feel that he spent much effort creating his new program.