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All Forum Posts by: Mike Lambert

Mike Lambert has started 4 posts and replied 1389 times.

Post: Investing in Tulum, Mexico

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@Victor Valle

I have been investing in your great country and the Riviera Maya for a few years now and I respectfully disagree with your comparison between Tulum and Playa del Carmen. The environment problems seem to be much worse in Tulum. From a pure investment standpoint, I hate the party pooper but I fear that, if you want to do property development in Tulum, you are too late to the party. Land has become very expensive and there is a already huge amount of condo projects in construction or planned, which clearly amounts to massive overbuilding. There are many more projects in Tulum than in Playa del Carmen, even though Playa del Carmen is 10 times the size of Tulum. This makes no sense. Today, Playa del Carmen has much more going for it than Tulum. People loved Tulum because of its isolation and nature but this is slowly disappearing with the huge development taking place there. They're basically shooting themselves in the foot. After investing in Playa del Carmen, I had the opportunity to invest in the best deal in Tulum at well below market prices and also at doing development there but I gave up on those plans as it became clear that there are much better opportunities elsewhere.

Post: Investing in Mexico?

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@Johan Yang

You are right. The area you mentioned is the best in Playa del Carmen because it is close to everything but it is still quiet.

I've been buying several pre-construction condos in Mexico and in the Riviera Maya and Playa del Carmen in particular using the way you described. I was also afraid of being scammed but not in this case because I knew people working for the developer personally, otherwise I wouldn't have done it. Also, I bought in Playa del Carmen in the area where you were because the development is unique and it was the last piece of land available in that area where you were. It's highly likely that you saw the development when you were there.

Through my connections, I got a killer private deal in terms of price and conditions and so I bought some extra condos that I'd be willing to sell. I know the project has sold very well so I don't know if the developer has anything remaining at a decent price but I'd be happy to sell you one of my available condos and spare the real estate agent commission. Given the deal I got, I could give you a much better price and better conditions than you'd get from the developer or any other developer in Playa Del Carmen. Basically, you could get a pre-construction price without the pre-construction risk. While the developer is the biggest in the area and has a great reputation, you can see for yourself that the construction is very well advanced so you don't have the risk of paying something you won't get.

I'll send you a PM but I'm extremely busy at the moment so feel free to send me a PM as well in case I forget.

As you know, BiggerPockets is first about helping each other before doing business. So feel free to reach out irrespective of any interest you might have in my properties. I can share my experience with you and I can definitely recommend you to a good and trustworthy lawyer, which is an absolute necessity in Mexico.

Mike

Post: Interest rate in Mexico can you still get to invest?

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I’ve been investing in Mexico together with investors over the last couple years. We have been making it work by buying pre-construction condos from the developer at at below market prices and renting them short term in tourist areas, as the tourism industry is booming in Mexico.

I could do that only because I’ve had personal relationships with developers and got access to money because I can share these deals with the investors. Such private deals are unfortunately otherwise not available.

I’m getting involved in property development and our idea is to offer a better product than the competition by offering development so that our buyers will be able to buy with leverage.

I don’t know of any other way to make it work, aside from flipping but you’ll need access to money for that too and foreigners and Mexicans who have cash to buy prefer to buy brand new properties over renovated ones. The long term rental yields are way below the interest rate.

Post: Are there any international investors based outside the US?

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Hi everyone,

Yes there are international investors here. BP is very inspirational indeed. The content is great too. While real estate investing has some commonalities across the world, the laws are different and some strategies that work in the US won’t work in most countries and vice versa. One of the things that makes a huge difference is the financing.

I’m doubly international in that I’m based in Canada and invest outside of North America. I cover mainly Mexico, Central America, Caribbean, South America and Southern Europe.

Not many people here have experience and a deep knowledge of those markets so I’m happy to share mine. Feel free to reach out.

Post: Making an Entrance into Rentals

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@Yulia M.

Yes first thing is to get educated. One thing to keep in mind is that things work differently overseas. I've been investing internationally over the last few years and my playground is Mexico, the Caribbean, Central and South America and Southern Europe (so including Spain). What works in those countries is different than what works in the US. Most of what you'll learn here is about what works in the US. Some things are similar but some of the most popular strategies in the US won't work in these countries. You can still learn about international markets here. A few of us on here invest internationally so feel free to reach out to us.

@Matthew Song Loong

Anyone can get Spanish residency and eventually a European passport by investing a certain amount of money in Spanish real estate. It's not just for Russians!

Post: Investing in Mexico?

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@Daniel Orozco

I've been investing in Mexico for a few years now and I believe Puerto Vallarta is the best market. It's the best market in Mexico right now because you can get great capital appreciation and cash flow while waiting. Puerto Vallarta is obviously a typical great short-term rental market and it distinguishes itself from many other short-term rental destinations by having a strong long-term renal market as well. The average net yield you can get after all expenses is 9% depending on the location, the property and how good you are at doing short-term rentals. If you are good at short-term rentals, you can get a much bigger return because you would be rented in the low season as well.

The overall majority of people invest with 100% cash because foreign banks won't lend and it's very difficult to get a loan from a local bank. If you can get one, they will lend maximum 50% of the lower of the price and market value and charge a very high interest rate, which makes it prohibitive for most people.

I'm working on doing a development with investors over there. I'm letting you know how it works here so that you can see what you can do as a foreign investor in Puerto Vallarta so you can see how you can get even much higher rental returns. I'm not going to give you many details because I'm here to help and educate and not to sell you anything . There will be two types of investors: those who invest in the development should make a very high return quickly in and out. For those who don't want to take the development risk, they can just buy one or several condos in pre-construction. Our buyers will only pay half price for their condos and have the rest paid by rental cash flow. Buyers will pay only 50% of the price and then will either finance 50% of the price over 5 or possibly 10 years at an interest rate well below market or we're going to manage the condos for them and pay ourselves the remaining 50% of the price out of the rental income over 5 or possibly 10 years. So, after 5 years, you could average an 18% annual yield after 5 years. As mentioned, you could do much better, especially given the quality and location of the development. I don't know any other developer who does that but hopefully we're going to create a new trend in the market.

Due to a lack of developable land in Puerto Vallarta itself, most building activity is occurring now North in Nuevo Vallarta and beyond. While properties over there can be good investments, Puerto Vallarta itself commands higher prices and has more rental demand and higher yields. This shortage of developable land where most people want to buy and rent is good news for investors, as it should ensure high capital gains and rental yields in the years ahead.

I hope this helps. Feel free to send me a private message if you think I can help you any further.

Post: First deal - how to choose target market

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Hi @Avi Levi (and everyone),

I was in the same situation a few years ago when I started investing in real estate so it might help you out if I tell you a little bit about my story.

Firstly though, I always listen to others but I eventually make my own opinion based on facts. When it comes to a bubble, there are some clear signs, like when the price to rent ratio is way too high or when the average buyer cannot afford the average home or only can afford it at ultra low interest rates. If you look at it this way, you'll see that huge parts of North America and Europe are in the midst of a huge bubble of epic proportions. It is fuelled by ultra cheap credit most of the time and it explodes when interest rates significantly increase or when there is a recession that closes banks to significantly restrict credit. However, as you'll see in my story, you don't need to know for sure whether there is a bubble or not as you can just use your common sense.

I was living in Montreal, Canada, when I decided to start investing in real estate (and I still am) and the easiest place to invest is obviously your own backyard. Montreal is considered a stable market and so the CAP rate has been traditionally low, at around 5% (it's actually closer to 4.5 as the market gets hotter and hotter). I don't know about you but I don't wan to make a return of just 5% on my money. Especially since I could get a higher return at a click of a mouse by investing in a stock market index fund and without having to find a property, deal with tenants,.... Make a higher return in real estate at a constant 5% would be possible provided that rents would go up to generate more income and prices would go up to generate capital gains. In order for rents to go up, you need income and salaries to go up. In order for the value of multifamily real estate to go up, you need rents to go up and so you need again incomes and salaries to go up. And, in order for residential real estate value to go up, you need buyers to be able to afford a higher mortgage and, therefore, incomes and salaries need to go higher again. So, generally speaking, you need a continuous rise in income and salaries to have a sustainable growth in the value of properties and the income they generate. As you might now, incomes and salaries have been stagnating over the last decades in developed countries and there are no prospects of that changing any time soon, given the state of the economy. So you might ask why the value of properties has increased so much during that same period. The answer is simple: ultra low interest rates. They have allowed buyers to afford a higher mortgage without having to earn more money and renters to pay higher rents by going an a borrowing binge to finance their lifestyle. The problem is that we might be getting to the end of this game as interest rates can hardly get any lower and buyers and renters reach the top of their borrowing capacity. I therefore concluded that, on the one hand, the upside is limited, at least in the short to medium term. On the other hand, the downside is potentially big. Indeed, should interest rates increase significantly or should the banks restrict borrowing as a result of a(long overdue) recession, the market could drop and drop hugely. So we have here an investment with limited upside and a potentially big downside, which is exactly the opposite of what a great investment is: a potentially big upside and limited downside.

So I thought about ways to increase the profitability beyond the 5% cap rate. Of course, I cannot control the market-driven prices but I could try to get (significantly) more rents. Yes, rents are market-driven as well but I could get significantly higher income by doing short-term rentals. The problem is that, like more and more cities, Montreal has pretty much banned short-term rentals. And, even aside from that, the competition is getting cut-throat and it becomes less and less profitable. Cut-throat competition is the main problem in Montreal, as more and more buyers and investors are competing over and overbidding on a shrinking supply of properties (owners aren’t motivated to sell since prices are going up, which creates a bubblicious spiral in prices).

That is when I decided that I needed to go overseas to make some more serious money. Granted, you can make money in Montreal by buying unrenovated properties, raising the rents and refinance but you have to find a deal, it works in 1 building out of 200 and everybody wants to do the same so there is huge competition. This is definitely not good for passive investors.

I wanted to escape the markets with cheap money and cut-throat competition and I decided to do short-term rentals in locations where tourism is booming to get high rental income and where there is a path of progress for high capital gains. We are talking here about places like Mexico, Central America, the Carribean, South America and certain parts of Southern Europe. In these places, there are mostly no turnkey operators like those you have identified so I had no choice than doing it on my own. Thankfully, during my previous career as an international banker, I had been covering those regions and I got precious contacts with developers. After leaving that career, I traveled the world to identify the best markets and opportunities and using my existing network to create a unique network of real estate developers, agents, lawyers, builders, … for future use.

I had great connections on the Riviera Maya in Mexico, which was in the midst of an incredible economic and tourism boom, with a hotel occupancy rate of between 80% and 90% all year. I figured out that I could buy brand new luxury condos in pre-construction in an ideal location and make rental returns above 20%. That's more than 5 times Montreal's CAP rate. Granted, that's Montreal's CAP rate is for long-term rentals. If you compare short-term rentals between, Playa del Carmen and Montreal, the rental rates are much higher, the occupancy is much higher given that the season is much longer, the property prices are much lower and. While it's mostly illegal in Montreal, there's no chance of it becoming illegal in Playa del Carmen. Doing short-term rentals in Playa del Carmen sounded therefore like a no-brainer.

Montreal has one big advantage though: the availability of leverage through cheap mortgages, which Playa del Carmen doesn’t have so this reduces the advantage of Playa del Carmen. I thought that it didn’t make sense to go through the complications of investing overseas if I wasn’t gonna make a significantly enough higher return. So, I looked for a way to get leverage in Playa del Carmen as well. This is where my personal relationships with the best developers in the area can in handy, as they gave me deals that are only available to their close network. I could buy into new pre-construction condo projects before the project is launched at a big discount to the launch price and I could pay 50% of that discounted purchase price over a few years after the delivery of the condos. Given the very strong short-term rental market, I’d be strongly cash-flow positive even after debt service and so I was able to put much less than 50% down in a 100% cash market. I get access to private deals like that in several tourist hotspots across the world but there was a limit to what I could do with my own money.

Investors asked me if they could invest with me. I arrange the deals and do everything. They come up with the down payment and we own the property 50/50. They could wait for the launch of the project and buy a similar property and own 100% but they make a much higher return by investing with me rather than by themselves as they benefit from the combination of leverage and a lower purchase price. What is even better is that they are getting this much higher return by taking a much lower risk. Indeed, investing in overseas and in those countries, while potentially very profitable, can be very risky if you don’t have the right knowledge and connections. By investing with me, the investors benefit from my knowledge and connections, which significantly reduces their risk. I’m very risk averse and I’d never handed over any money to a Mexican developer if I didn’t know him personally or at least have somebody I trust who did. So that is my USP or unique selling proposition: my investors make more money, do less (nothing) and take less risks than if they were investing by themselves.

So there you have an example of both situations: me investing by myself and investors investing with me. Generally, you will make less money if you invest by yourself than through a turnkey provider but you will have nothing to do and you won’t need to acquire the knowledge if you invest with them. So, it’s a trade off. However, if, like me, these companies can give you a higher return and reduce your risk compared to you investing by yourself, it’d be a no-brainer to work with them. Their only drawback is if you want to be actively involved unless they take on active partners like me.

Finally, while this kind of investment is very profitable to my investors and myself, the developers in this type of country are making the most money and in a much shorter time frame. This is why I’m now working on two condo development deals, one in Puerto Vallarta and the other beachfront in the Dominican Republic. I can do this only because I have the necessary connections. As an ex-banker, I will do the finance part and deal with the future investors and my local partners will bring the experienced contractors and builders to carry the project. This is very profitable because we’ll sell in US dollars to foreigners or wealthy locals and our costs will be very low and incurred in the heavily depreciated local currency. Moreover, if we pre-sell a lot, we’ll be able to finance most of the project with our buyers’ prepayments, which is basically 0% financing. This means that our future investors will have to invest will be relatively limited and the combination of limited investment amount, big profit and 0% financing means big returns for our investors. We’re confident we’ll pre-sell a lot because we’re going to offer request a 50% down payment while the competition requires 100% so we’ll have a unique and better product. So, we should do very well with sales, especially if we find the right people to do our marketing. Even though the pre-sales should considerably reduce the risks of our investors, some of them might still prefer to not go into development. In that case, they’ll have the opportunity to be buyers and get a high investment return on their purchase given that they’ll only have to put 50% down. Basically, we’ll give them the same kind of deals as I got from my developer in Playa del Carmen and so I’ll have come full circle.

You can’t do this kind of development deals in Canada or in similar countries because all the buyer has to put down before the delivery of the condo is 5% of the purchase price. These are awesome deals but having the right knowledge and connections is an absolute necessary in order to be successful.

To conclude, I hope that this will help and inspire you. Don’t hesitate to contact me if you think I can help you further.

Post: Vacation Rental - Developer Financing - Mexico or Overeas

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@Carlos Cristiani

You brought up great points. To sum them up, there are opportunities but you need to know and trust who you're dealing with and do your due diligence.

I'm working on similar projects in Mexico and the Dominican Republic. In both cases, I have experienced and trustworthy partners. However, I'm risk averse and I want to limit the risk of our future investors and buyers as much as possible.

In the Dominican Republic, we're setting up a mechanism whereby the client's initial deposit will be paid into an escrow account with a fiduciary company belonging to the country's biggest insurance company. They will release the fund to us only when they are satisfied that we have the ability and the financing to complete the project. This represents a huge protection for the buyers. Yet our competitors (the other developers) don't do that. Why? Because it's a very bureaucratic and complicated process. The area is booming and they're selling regardless. We do things differently. Thanks to our connections, our buyers will be able to get financing in a country where most foreigners have to pay cash. We well be cheaper than the competition and have an unbeatable beachfront location. And we will offer this buyer protection. So, our buyers will get a better deal so we should sell better and quicker. This will increase the return and reduce the risk of our investors and so it'll be easier for us to get investors on board. Therefore, this is a win-win-win situation for all parties involved.

We will see if we can do the same for the Mexican development. But in any case, we're working with an architecture and project management firm with an established international reputation. The principal architect teaches in several universities and give conferences around the world. And we are only dealing with the most reputable builders with a longstanding proven reputation.

Yes, some people have lost money buying pre-construction in the past in Mexico (they could in any country if they invest in the wrong projects for that matter). In many cases, you'll find out that it is because they were dealing with the wrong people and didn't do a proper due diligence. So it'd have been somewhat preventable. The problem in Mexico is that it's more complicated for foreigners to do their due diligence if they don't have people they can trust. So there is clearly a risk there but this is why the investment returns are much higher. If it wasn't so, it'd be too good to be true. As we all know, we can't have the cake and eat it too!

Post: Vacation Rental - Developer Financing - Mexico or Overeas

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@Allan Flamm

Thank you and exactly! I'm currently working on very profitable development opportunities in Puerto Vallarta. This is made possible by the awesome team we have on the ground. I realize it's not easy to have this kind of connections but those who don't have them can try to invest with those who do. So, ultimately, there are opportunities for many investors over there. Mexico keeps attracting more tourists and retirees and the reasons for that are unlikely to disappear anytime soon. Best of luck to you too and feel free to reach out if you want to compare notes.

Post: What would be your next step

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@Tamara Deering

If you don't have the cash, you can't invest in Europe right now, irrespective of how complicated it is. Just know that, for the day you can do it, it's not that complicated and you have the choice between learning and doing or invest with people who know what they do. Also, they amount of money you need might be (much) less than you think.