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Post: Str financing question
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Originally posted by @Andrew Haney:
Hello all my STR friends. I'm the last few months I've been able to acquire two additional STR properties in AZ utilizing hard money and am now beginning the hunt for refinancing. In an effort to separate my business risk as much as possible these properties are all held in LLC's. My initial goal would be to attempt refinancing these properties as vacation homes and my next would be utilizing traditional bank financing but i know how difficult this can be within an LLC. If anyone has any experience with this situation it would be great. Thanks Andrew
What areas of AZ? I know a lender who might be able to help but for those kinds of loans he is city specific.
Post: Does holding a 2nd place lien make me safe on a flip deal?
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Originally posted by @Jim Stanley:
Not sure if this is the right place to post, but I figured this is where the people with the right knowledge would be:
I'm a beginning investor near Denver, with 1 SFH rental, looking to learn and grow. I met a guy at a foreclosure auction who invests in a lot of things: foreclosures, buying notes, flipping houses, wholesaling, some other stuff. He has offered to teach me and let me in on some deals.
The current offer is this:
We will knock on doors of candidate properties together until I learn what to say, then I'll do it solo. If I find one that he ends up buying, he will pay me a small finder's fee. He has a money man that he borrows from, but he does still need a down payment. I will invest $50k of my money (from my self directed IRA) as part of the down payment. His money man gets 1st lien on the property and I get 2nd lien. Once the flip is sold, I get my $50k back plus 10% APR. If the deal works really well for him, I get a bonus of unspecified amount. I help out on the whole process wherever I can to learn the business.
I have no particular reason to distrust this person, but I want to do diligence and understand my risks. Please tell me if I am wrong about anything and if I am missing anything (I'm sure I am!!)
-worst case- he just plain steals the money without giving me the lien, gives me a fake lien, etc Pretty unlikely but plausible.
-really bad case- the house burns down and the property is worthless. Would his insurance cover me on this?
-really bad case- we buy a property that is worthless (built over a toxic dump, etc). I should be able to mitigate this myself by doing diligence on the property before investing, and assumedly, so would he.
-most likely case- the flip just does not go well and the profit is negative (or he claims negative profit even if it is really positive). Please correct me if I'm wrong here, but I THINK my 2nd lien protects me here. He pretty much has to sell the house to pay back his money man (or the money man forecloses and sells it), and I get paid then, correct? I THINK the worst that would happen in this case is that I would not get my 10% interest and my $50k principle could be tied up a long time. I suppose he or the money man could simply keep the property and not pay me- would I have any recourse then?
- What else?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH
Take your money to Vegas and put the whole wad on Red 7. You have better chances of that being a good idea.
No. This is not a good idea at all.
Post: Airbnb house purchase with investor money
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Originally posted by @Jimmy Woodard:
Why would the bank need to know you're working with an investor? If they're a silent partner and transfer funds to your account, I don't see why you can't have just your name on the loan. Maybe I'm missing something here...
The bank is looking at Debt to Income Ratios. If it is money you already have, it doesn't affect your DTI. But, if you borrow money for the down payment, you are making an additional monthly payment the lender doesn't know about. That increases their risk unfairly.
Also, the increase of the DTI may make the loan undoable. If the loan is backed by the U.S. Govt (FHA, VA, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, USDA) then it affects the insurability of the loan. Not to be too blunt about the matter but giving false information on a federally backed loan is a felony. It usually is caught if payments ever get behind and then they audit the loan.
Why not do things the right way? No property or opportunity is worth the risk you are describing. I know it is an honest question, so I am giving you an honest answer.
Post: Wells Fargo Abruptly Closes Lines of Credit - The End Is Near
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Originally posted by @Matt Higgins:
If you DON’T want an account they open one for you with out your consent. If you WANT an account they close if for you with out your consent
this is a company that truly doesn’t care about its customers
Yeah, it's a very mixed up company. Lol
Post: Distributing Equity When You Put No Money Down.
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Originally posted by @Matt Porter:
Let's say I want to buy a 16 unit apartment building and have absolutely no money. It cost $3million and $300k is needed to put down. I partner with 3 other people and they each put $100k down. What's a common way distribute equity/cash flow between 1 person that does all the work and 3 people that pit up all the money? I know there is no right or wrong answer, but I'm looking for common ideas that people have gone with in the past and have been successful?
The bank won't lend to you on those conditions. You need an investor who has the net worth of the total amount of the loan to even get the loan, you need an atorney to draw up the agreement, and yo are bidding against people who have done this before and all set up to buy. Find someone who does these and learn directly from them.
Post: cash on cash return for Airbnb’s
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Originally posted by @John Underwood:
I agree that 20% should be your minimum target.
How are you calculating that out?
Out of curiosity, for STR in your area, what are the "draws" that would have folks book STR? Is it similar to Asheville?
Post: Help! How do I get this deal?
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Originally posted by @Lance Nelson:
I live in Portland, Oregon and recently quit my job as a Physical Therapist and became a real estate agent. My wife is relatively new real estate attorney. What I didn't totally comprehend when switching careers was how it would affect my ability to buy properties because the commission based nature of my new gig. My wife makes good money and it's only going to increase, but because of our current DTI (mortgages open one rental property and our current home) we are not financeable for our next project. The bummer is that I've found a duplex that I really want to purchase off market and the bank is saying we can't support that because of DTI. Any ideas for how to make this deal happen? I thought about offering cash for a co-sign, does anyone have experience with that? I also thought about bringing someone else into the deal in some capacity, but am not sure how that's typically structured. Any ideas would be much appreciated!
There IS an answer, (and it's legal) but since your wife is an attorney it is too risky to give you advice (nothing personal), sorry. Plus, Portland has gone to H-ll and it needs to collapse and rebuild or at least change the city mayor and city council before investing will do you any good there. Not a political statement, that is an economic statement. And, your problem isn't the DTI, it's the location.
Post: Wells Fargo Abruptly Closes Lines of Credit - The End Is Near
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Originally posted by @Austin Grant McDowell:
@Mike Hern thankfully this is just due to Wells Fargo’s fraudulent account scandals and nothing to do with the economy as a whole.
Love it. Your level of sarcasm is epic. Lol
Post: Wells Fargo Abruptly Closes Lines of Credit - The End Is Near
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Originally posted by @Philip Coiro:
@Mike Hern
People still use Wells Fargo?
Just as a sample, here are some Wells Fargo recent actions (even After all of the lawsuits and disciplinary actions)
* https://www.complaintsdepartme...
These are real people with real problems from the Really Bad Wells Fargo -

"I have fraudulent charges that are on my Wells Fargo Visa card. I called the fraud department and I was told that because I made my payment to the card that this an acceptance of the charges!!!?????? It put me over my limit. Im sure if I didn't pay they would had reported to my credit, so there is no win here?"
"In May 2020, I was declared deceased by Wells Fargo. I had called because my paycheck was not deposited into my account on the scheduled day. I had to call & speak to a representative who emailed me a Affidavit for Proof of Life. Then I was told to go to a branch because it was the only way to get my check deposited into my account. I have since last year been dealing with this situation & I am still having problems."
"Years ago, my wife and I obtained a mortgage loan for commercial real estate from Wells Fargo bank. That loan was paid off in full 11-4-2013. The problem is they never filed a reconveyance with the county to clear the property as collateral tying up the property still to this day.
Our current loan officer worked on this and received no assistance from Wells Fargo; the same thing happened with our current title company."
"Please help! A physical check left my bank account (not a Wells Fargo account - completely different bank) for $4,000 made out to me with my address and an account #. The account # is inactive and was over a 15 year old credit account. Although the customer name did not match, the address did not match and the address the physical bill pay check was mailed to DID NOT MATCH, a Wells Fargo Teller stamped and deposit the check into a Wells Fargo customers' SAVINGS account."
"Wells Fargo has the worst identity security! Last month someone physically withdrew a good amount out of my account in another state. How is the question!?!? I've never lost my ID or personal information. Last week someone went on a jewelry shopping spree with my card #."
"Has anyone else had Wells Fargo Auto loose their title to their car after you had repaid the loan or had issues getting your title from them? Would love to know if there are more people out there that this has happened."
"Hi my name is Nazly. I am so upset right I could cry. I went to Wells Fargo ATM in Calabasas on January 11, 2020, put in my pin to get money and it said error. I thought I might have insufficient funds so I checked my balance on my phone while I was standing at the ATM machine. To my shock they had debited out the $300.00 but I never got the money."
"I have been trying to resolve this issue for 4 years now. I paid off my car loan in 2016. They sent my title to a P.O. Box that I had for 5 weeks. I was not informed that it was returned due to their policy of not sending to PO boxes until I called to find out where it was. I was told that they could not send it to my home address. They did send me a paper lien release. I tried to use this to get a copy of the title and the Az.MVDwould not accept it. The AZMVD said that in 2016 they began requiring an electronic release. I called several times and spent hours on the phone getting the run around until I finally traveled 1100 miles to the branch that I paid my car payment for 5 years totaling over $15,000. I did talk to the assistant manager and the vehicle loans dept and he sent me a $90.00 check to pay for registration, he assured me that he had fixed the problem. After calling the assistant manager back she could not help me"
And on and on and on . . .
Post: Wells Fargo Abruptly Closes Lines of Credit - The End Is Near
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Originally posted by @Philip Coiro:
@Mike Hern
People still use Wells Fargo?
Lol