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All Forum Posts by: Michael Wagner

Michael Wagner has started 37 posts and replied 805 times.

Post: Self Storage Split for Equity Partnership

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I think your first example is a fairly good estimation.  But this is of course going to vary.  As a starting point I use a 33% split across the board...33% for finding the deal, 33% for funding the deal and 33% for running the deal.  Of course if the "deal" one finds is a run of the mill listed property, that 33% could drop to 5-10% really easily.  But we deploy a low volume HIGH margin strategy so finding the deal is where the money is!  And similar adjustments could be made for the other two categories as well.  

To me, the best way to arrive at this is to divide up risks, roles and responsibilities and then reverse engineer the percentages that provide each partner with the fair compensation for their contributions.  Generally speaking a money partner will be happy in the 12-24% range depending on exposure and the security offered, etc.  So I'd personally start with that in mind and work backwards to find the proper terms.

Post: Why so many recommendations to go multi family - commercial?

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I second everything that @Scott Krone said!

Post: Where to put my 1031 exchange money. What would you do?

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Here's two quick articles on finding storage deals from a blog hosted right here on BP:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/...

https://www.biggerpockets.com/...

Hope you find some value in them!

Post: Self Storage investing!

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My first ever facility was in Syracuse.  Bought it ten years ago and sold a couple years back.  Still own 10% as part of the sale structure. Overall it was and is a GREAT investment.  

Post: How can I start BIG with US$50K in the bank?

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$50K is more than enough to get started in self storage.  I personally started with less than that ten years ago and have done nothing but storage since then. To me, its the most efficient way to build wealth and cash flow quickly.  Its not mailbox money though (at least not at first!) so you've got to get smart on it to decide if its right for you!

Post: Pandemic VS Storage Units

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The 30 plus properties that I or my students own have all done very well this year!  Rents and occupancy are up.  As have been some record sales prices when we liquidated a few. 

Post: Anyone ever successfully sell a self storage to a storage REIT?

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Thanks for the shout out @Taylor L., And you make a good point. While the REITS are one potential exit strategy. There are plenty of non-REIT buyers who would be interested in the end product described above.

Post: Need Advice Re: 50K SF Warehouse Conversion Self or Cold Storage?

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$40 per foot seems optimistic for a full gut job plus CC installation...but maybe its doable for a single story conversion.  Sounds like you could "afford" to spend a good bit more than that and still have it make sense with disposition comps like the one you shared.  My general desire is to double the project cost.  Of course you'll have to factor in carrying costs and negative cash flow for a good while. This is of a scope where a full fledged feasibility study would definitely be in order!

Post: Need Advice Re: 50K SF Warehouse Conversion Self or Cold Storage?

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I recently did NON climate controlled conversion of a 45K square foot facility.  Netted 33,300 of rentable space because we did a drive aisle down the middle. Total cost was about $27 per square foot.  Building needed LOTS of work as we only paid $3.65 per foot for it. 

Your costs will be highly variable given the condition of the "shell" as well as how much electrical, security, fire suppression work is required by local codes.  That said, you can have a "conversion kit" installed for $6-8 per rentable square foot.

General rule of Thumb is that self storage makes great sense assuming the market needs it and you can charge rents in the range of 20-25% of total cost. So if you build out for a total of $40 per square foot, an annual gross rental rate of $8-10 per foot would likely pencil out nicely!

Post: 3E Self Storage Investing MasterClass

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This is a two day event (one previously recorded and one LIVE).  Your investment will get instant access to our most popular storage training course, the ๐—ฉ๐—ถ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ผ ๐—ง๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ฆ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐˜€ as well as, access to our ๐Ÿณ ๐——๐—ฎ๐˜† ๐—ช๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ธ๐˜€๐—ต๐—ผ๐—ฝ, our private ๐—ฆ๐˜๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ก๐—ฒ๐˜๐˜„๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ธ ALONG WITH one ticket to our Live Full Day Training, the ๐Ÿฏ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐˜๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐— ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฐ๐—น๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€ that will take place on Feb. 3rd.

The Video Training Series is a 7.5 hour pre-recorded course and is a prerequisite for the February 3rd Masterclass. Please BE SURE that you have reviewed this course content before the Live Event!

During the Masterclass itself you will be given the chance to immerse yourself into the 3E's of self storage success; Education, Encouragement and Empowerment. Together, we will dive deeper into (not review!) all of the nuts and bolts storage content introduced in the Video Training Series. We will also provide you with the an opportunity to connect with other like minded investors who are walking the same path as you. These relationships and the resources that you receive during this event will help you put that education into action and achieve the results that you are after.

This event will be a LIVE and Highly interactive experience with case studies, small group activities and large group discussions. It is not for folks who want to passively consuming information. It is designed to educate, encourage and empower you by immersing you in a carefully crafted experiential learning environment. With that, we ask that all attendees acknowledge and agree to the four agreements below:

1) End to End Attendance: please be prepared to be present from beginning to end.

2) Be Stationary: please be prepared to participate from a stationary spot. Participation from a moving vehicle, while on a walk, etc. will not work for this type of experience.

3) Sensory Engagement: Please have both your video and audio on through your computer/laptop/cellphone.

4) Fully Present: Please eliminate notifications, distractions, or anything that will take your attention from the experience.

These four agreements will ensure that you, as well as all of the others who invest into this experience, are able to extract the most value possible. If this sounds like something you might appreciate, I look forward to connecting with you on February 3rd.

Includes:

๐™‘๐™ž๐™™๐™š๐™ค ๐™๐™ง๐™–๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™œ ๐™Ž๐™š๐™ง๐™ž๐™š๐™จ: A Step By Step Guide Through Self Storage Investing With Access To All Our Documents & a Coaching Call With Mike Wagner.

    3๐™€ ๐™ˆ๐™–๐™จ๐™ฉ๐™š๐™ง๐™˜๐™ก๐™–๐™จ๐™จ: A Live Storage Training Unlike Anything You've Experienced Yet. During This Event You'll Gain Access To The 3 Ingredients To Becoming Wildly Successful In Self Storage.

    7 ๐˜ฟ๐™–๐™ฎ ๐™’๐™ค๐™ง๐™ ๐™จ๐™๐™ค๐™ฅ: Uncover How Step By Step Playbook To Creating an Extraordinary Life Using Ordinary Self Storage Garages

    ๐™Ž๐™ฉ๐™ค๐™ง๐™–๐™œ๐™š ๐™‰๐™š๐™ฉ๐™ฌ๐™ค๐™ง๐™ : You'll Have Free Lifetime Access To Our Private Community! Here You Can Post Content, Ask Questions, Connect With Investors & Receive Ongoing Support.

    • SPOTS ARE LIMITED so if you are looking to launch or accelerate your storage investing, I'd invite you to sign up now!