All Forum Posts by: Aaron Smith
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Post: Commercial/blanket/portfolio Loans that Don't require Appraisal?

- Durham, NC
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Originally posted by @Joe Bruck:
Originally posted by @Aaron Smith:
Is there any type of loans out there that I could get given my situation that wouldn't require an onsite appraisal? Like anything that would use rental income or just a desktop appraisal? Any ideas would be great. I am in NC.. Thanks!
I'm in a similar situation like you, and there are options out there for you.
Just out of curiosity did you cashout?
I actually have done about 5 more loans since I wrote this, and they were 4 more conventional loans and then a portfolio cash out refi on 4 properties together. I had to get appraisals on all of them. I never found a workaround, but it wasn't a big deal.
Post: rental properties messing with my DTI

- Durham, NC
- Posts 104
- Votes 68
Disagree completely about your bolded line below. You can absolutely make your DTI better with each additional investment property. I own over 20 properties and have 14 loans and my DTI is lower now than when I had only 3-4 properties.
Originally posted by @Bruce Runn:
Come on Justin, Each additional investment property makes your DTI worse even with great cash flowing properties. The formula is set up to penalize you each time you take on more debt, even if you show great cash flow. Bigger banks have their underwriting set up so programmatic that they can't use any simple judgement. Even when I only owned 8 properties, I couldn't get bank to make a residential loan because of DTI. They looked at my tax return and practically apologized but give an excuse of DTI since they sell everything off and they only follow Fannie Mae requirements. I have a local bank that hold some of my loans so I can keep buying but it's easier for someone right out of college with almost no history to get a residential loan than me-LOL
Post: Vacation Rental Analysis Help

- Durham, NC
- Posts 104
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Originally posted by @Blair Russell:
@Aaron Smith In 5 years no one has ever asked for a landline, and only one group of guests has complained because they didn't have cable. It take me abut 10 minutes to prepare a step by step guide to use the television, but anyway it's really not that techinal (Step 1:Turn on TV, Step 2: press Netflix button ;p). People don't need television anyway, they will most likely watch on their computers.
I don't think you have much experience with older southern folks do you? Trust me, alot don't even use computers or ipads, or the internet for that matter. Just cable tv and sports. And that is a HUGE chunk of the weekly renters at the beach. They want a lot of live tv, and all the channels.
Also, it is cheaper to have the phone included than to just get internet + cable. Would cost me more to get each a la carte from Spectrum. Trust me, I have wanted to get away from it, but it would end up making me lose out in the end.
Post: Vacation Rental Analysis Help

- Durham, NC
- Posts 104
- Votes 68
Originally posted by @Blair Russell:
On another note your Internet/Phone/Cable costs are really high, you don't need cable or phone for a VR. Just get a good high speed internet plan will cute that down by a 1/3
I own a place at the beach, and I would love to get away from the $125/month I have to spend for internet, cable, and phone, but you must have it, as all places have it. You don't offer cable and you shoot yourself in the foot. I don't have cable on my personal property at home (we use Firestick, Netflix, etc), but you can't expect that to be used at a vacation rental. Too technical and not easy enough for the average renter.
Post: Vacation Rental Analysis Help

- Durham, NC
- Posts 104
- Votes 68
Maybe it is just me, but I bought an oceanfront vacation property last year and did so knowing it wasn't going to cashflow at all, and would actually cost me a good chunk of $ each month. It has about $40,000/year of mortgage/insurance/utilities/taxes/upkeep, but I gross about $25,000/year in rent, so it ends up costing me about $1,200/month. I just wanted to be able to offset about 6 months of all expenses via the short term rentals in the summer, and it is able to do that. I am only offering it for rent from April-October and I leave it off the market the rest of the time, as we bought it as our personal getaway to use as well (we live about 3 hours away), so cashflow was never a big deal. Don't you have to factor in your personal use and enjoyment of a vacation property and thus, not worry if you are spending or losing $ on it? In my opinion yes, but of course everyone thinks differently. It had great terms on it, which I was able to get owner financing with me putting 20% down and the owner carrying a 20-year fixed note at 4.75%. Also, I don't have to carry flood insurance, which was the main thing I needed to make sure I didn't have to get, as that is about $12,000/year.
Post: Is it an insult to make an offer based on the income?

- Durham, NC
- Posts 104
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Honestly, don't bother making an offer $420,000 less than the asking price. You will truly just be wasting your time.
Post: Who to Use for Umbrella Insurance Policy for 20+ Properties?

- Durham, NC
- Posts 104
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I have Erie for everything (all of my auto, life, my primary residence, and all of the rentals in my name). Their rates cannot be beat. However, they don't do umbrellas, thus my issue.
Post: My entire 4-plex just went delinquent at the SAME TIME

- Durham, NC
- Posts 104
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I'm in the minority here, but I would tell you to do nothing. As long as they are paying you in full, with late fees included, around 2-3 weeks late, and even if they did this every month, I would be fine with it.
I own right at 25 properties, and about 6-7 of them are usually between 5 days to 25 days late each month. I don't mind, as I am not chomping at the bit to get the rent at the first of the month and I actually like getting that extra 5% in late fees. It is some nice extra cash flow.
THus, if they pay each month a few weeks late, what is the difference than paying on the 1st each month? Nothing, except you are making more $ by accepting payment a few weeks later.
That said, once a tenant goes more than 30 days or 1 full month late, my entire situation and experience will change with them. But, I have only had that happen maybe 1 or 2 times in the last 5-6 years.
Post: Who to Use for Umbrella Insurance Policy for 20+ Properties?

- Durham, NC
- Posts 104
- Votes 68
Hi Patty, thanks! Unfortunately it looks like your company only provides coverage in Virginia, Maryland, and Pennsylvania.
Post: Who to get for Umbrella Insurance Policy for 20+ Properties?

- Durham, NC
- Posts 104
- Votes 68
Scott, thank you so much for that information!