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All Forum Posts by: Quentin Jivery

Quentin Jivery has started 19 posts and replied 78 times.

Quote from @Nicholas L.:

I meant 'heck of a time' as in hard time


I figured that's what you meant by a heck of a time 😀. So as a new investor where is the hope? Just keep searching and searching or is there a certain type of REI I should be looking into instead of BRRR

Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Zach Wagner

I think all-in at 100K is going to be tough. If it were easy to push the button to do a BRRRR in Ohio or Indy with 100k we'd all do it. I'm trying to do LOCAL BRRRRs in PA and having a heck of a time! =)

Where are you located in CA?  Are there any markets within driving distance you can start in instead of rolling the dice thousands of miles away?

Why are you having a heck of a time doing BRRRRS in PA
Quote from @Stephen Brown:

My biggest mistake - overthinking! I still do it! Fear will try to stop you! DO NOT LISTEN! 

Budget a boatload for capital expenses in the beginning and budget less per month in repairs and capex. I did the opposite, I was so conservative with my rents and monthly expenses but I was super aggressive with how much I would have to pay up front in fixing the property. If you buy a nice property you shouldn't have to spend too much per month... and it should rent for the market rate.


 How do you work your numbers, I’d love a breakdown. Overthinking is an issue I’m having I just need to do a deal

Quote from @Zach Wagner:

Hey there everyone! I'm a newbie to real estate investing and I have been stuck in analysis paralysis. I've been trying to gain as much knowledge as I can before pulling the trigger on a property. I live in CA and I'm looking to invest out of state. I was wondering if anyone knows of good cities to BRRRR in this current market. I'm looking for properties in the B or C class neighborhoods. Primarily single family homes (all in purchase + rehab around $100k). My main focus is cash flow but I would love for the property to appreciate over time as well. Thanks in advance, any advice or insight helps.


 Any luck on BRRRS recently?

Quote from @Andrew Syrios:

Almost every new investor (and many seasoned investors) don't budget enough for repairs. They often skimp on due diligence (don't look for wood rot, don't scope the sewer line, etc.) but almost always just budget not enough. We always include a 20% contingency for unforeseen items and that has served us well. I would recommend the same.


How do you analyze deals? What things are you looking for.  

Quote from @Sam Pecor:
Quote from @Quentin Jivery:
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Quote from @Scott E.:

1. Underestimated rehab costs

2. Underestimated how long it would take to rehab

3. Overestimated the ARV

(still ended up ok in the end, and learned a ton)

Still ended up ok on the end! I’m worried about all three of those things but I want the experience of doing it. I think it’s time, any advice on out of state markets like KC OH TN I’m thinking of working in one of those but concerned about being so far away. I guess I could connect with a hood property manager to over see it.
Also Any advice on where to look for deals? I’ve been told the MLS is great or things like propstream ( which in my opinion seems pricey)
Thank you! 

 I echo the other contributors to this thread. Underestimating time invested, costs of rehab, and level of personal involvement are my three key takeaways from my first. It's set me back about two years, but not for nothing.

MLS is great if you're looking to pay retail rates. Right now is not a bad time to pick up listings that have sat for 1-2 months as sellers had made the attempt at projecting pricing 2-6 months out when listing and are finding the market cooling. Driving for dollars is something I am looking at for my next purchase, building a database of properties I'd purchase and peppering them with marketing materials. It's cost effective, but time intensive.


What strategies do you use instead of the MLS?

Networking with other likeminded people can be a really good source of properties, in addition to cozying up to a few realtors. Some brokerages will have distressed housing lists that they can opt to share with investors if they work with REO companies. Driving for dollars with targeted direct mail campaigns is great for starting out.


 If you have time could you explain driving for dollars? 
Also cozying you to realtors to get listings before they hit the mls?

Quote from @Sam Pecor:
Quote from @Quentin Jivery:
Quote from @Scott E.:

1. Underestimated rehab costs

2. Underestimated how long it would take to rehab

3. Overestimated the ARV

(still ended up ok in the end, and learned a ton)

Still ended up ok on the end! I’m worried about all three of those things but I want the experience of doing it. I think it’s time, any advice on out of state markets like KC OH TN I’m thinking of working in one of those but concerned about being so far away. I guess I could connect with a hood property manager to over see it.
Also Any advice on where to look for deals? I’ve been told the MLS is great or things like propstream ( which in my opinion seems pricey)
Thank you! 

 I echo the other contributors to this thread. Underestimating time invested, costs of rehab, and level of personal involvement are my three key takeaways from my first. It's set me back about two years, but not for nothing.

MLS is great if you're looking to pay retail rates. Right now is not a bad time to pick up listings that have sat for 1-2 months as sellers had made the attempt at projecting pricing 2-6 months out when listing and are finding the market cooling. Driving for dollars is something I am looking at for my next purchase, building a database of properties I'd purchase and peppering them with marketing materials. It's cost effective, but time intensive.


What strategies do you use instead of the MLS?

Quote from @Scott E.:
Quote from @Quentin Jivery:
Quote from @Scott E.:

1. Underestimated rehab costs

2. Underestimated how long it would take to rehab

3. Overestimated the ARV

(still ended up ok in the end, and learned a ton)

Still ended up ok on the end! I’m worried about all three of those things but I want the experience of doing it. I think it’s time, any advice on out of state markets like KC OH TN I’m thinking of working in one of those but concerned about being so far away. I guess I could connect with a hood property manager to over see it.
Also Any advice on where to look for deals? I’ve been told the MLS is great or things like propstream ( which in my opinion seems pricey)
Thank you! 

The farthest I've ever invested was a 25 minute drive away from where I live, and after that deal I decided that was too far for me. Nowadays everything I buy, rent, sell is within 15 minutes from where I live.

I know others who have success investing out of state. I have a friend who is buying rentals in St Louis and he's doing really well. It's just not for me. I prefer to buy where I intimately understand every single variable of the market. Buying out of state you need to be extra careful not to accidentally buy "on the wrong side of the tracks"

If you are going to pick any of those markets you've listed, the only input I can provide is that you should book a flight out there and spend a few days with your own 2 feet on the ground prior to investing your hard earned money in the market.

I live in oregon and I look at the market here and maybe I’m not being creative enough or I’m ignorant on numbers but nothing seems to make sense and I NEVER see anyone taking about their success in oregon, I think I need to reach out to succsesful investors here and get coffee. Do you think I’m just not looking hard enough?

Post: Im new to real estate, and need advice

Quentin JiveryPosted
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Quote from @Curtis Bluth:

Jessie,

Getting started in the real estate world can be extremely daunting at first, but it takes time and the willingness to jump in. I think it would be worth your time to look for successful wholesaler groups in your area first and ask to work for them. Learning a strong system that is successful has it's benefits! Also, you could get your real estate license and jump in looking for deals. That's what I did, and it's led me into the commercial space. 

Feel free to message me directly with more questions. If you already have a license and just simply need a brokerage that offers tons of training and a mentor for a new agent, you should look at eXp Realty. Here's a link to join. Cheers!

I’m new to REI and thinking of becoming an agent or getting my license I read you said you did that and it helped, why did it help and do you think it’s beneficial for me to get it. I also have a full time job as ridiculous as this sounds do you think I would be able to sell real estate part time. 
Quote from @Scott E.:

1. Underestimated rehab costs

2. Underestimated how long it would take to rehab

3. Overestimated the ARV

(still ended up ok in the end, and learned a ton)

Still ended up ok on the end! I’m worried about all three of those things but I want the experience of doing it. I think it’s time, any advice on out of state markets like KC OH TN I’m thinking of working in one of those but concerned about being so far away. I guess I could connect with a hood property manager to over see it.
Also Any advice on where to look for deals? I’ve been told the MLS is great or things like propstream ( which in my opinion seems pricey)
Thank you!