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All Forum Posts by: Erin Elam

Erin Elam has started 44 posts and replied 336 times.

Post: DFW wholesalers/investors and direct mail

Erin ElamPosted
  • Little Elm, TX
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 47
bump

Post: DFW wholesalers/investors and direct mail

Erin ElamPosted
  • Little Elm, TX
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 47
this was supposed to read: .... got a contract...

Post: DFW wholesalers/investors and direct mail

Erin ElamPosted
  • Little Elm, TX
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 47
I hope to pick the brains of seasoned investors here in the DFW (Dallas - Ft. Worth) area regarding marketing to out-of-state absentee owners. I've admittedly been reading on the subject of wholesaling for quite a while. My question is this: those of you who have successfully sent direct mail, received a response, got a contact, and subsequently completed your chosen exit strategy - what are some of the reasons the sellers were willing to sell? A lot of inherited properties? People needing less debt on credit reports? Bad tenants? Up in age? Unable to afford repairs on the property? I'm looking forward to this insight! Erin

Post: yellow letters to absentee owners

Erin ElamPosted
  • Little Elm, TX
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 47
Originally posted by @Dev Horn:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Rob Scarborough 

  Just like you have the 2% rule for figuring cash flow you have the 1% rule in direct mail marketing... depending of course of the area of the country.

So 500 letters to answer your question directly.. If you got 5 calls and close half a deal that would be normal.. 1000 letters should get you one solid closing. So for 85 calls that's probably 5000 or more letters....

Yes, in fact, this varies - pretty dramatically - in different areas of the country (send 1,000 letters in LA and prepare for maybe 3 calls, certainly not 10).  I'm not a big fan of "response rate" as it can be a misleading measure of marketing efficiency.  I can increase my response rate by diluting my marketing message (i.e., "I buy any house at any price... or, my wife and I love your house and want to pay you top dollar for it", etc.).

Contrast that to the typical "cash offer" message -- "I pay CASH, close FAST, and buy in AS-IS condition."  If the homeowners are not motivated by cash, speed or the fact that they have a house in need of repair, they might not respond to this message.  But when they do, it tends to be an excellent lead.

If you are a wholesaler or rehabber, you need MOTIVATED SELLER LEADS from people with DISTRESSED PROPERTY.  You can get plenty of curiosity-seekers with a "my wife and I love your house, I pay top dollar" message, but most those calls will be worthless to you, and you'll weed thru a lot of them to find actual motivated sellers.  (I also think half the absentee owners are other investors that are wise to the yellow letter tactic; I prefer to send variable print postcards or professional letters to absentees...  Owner occupants are better targets for the typical yellow letter format.)

The metric that matters most is simply "Return on Marketing".  It will not be revealed to you in a single mailing, but over time you evaluate your marketing spend as a % of your revenue to see how your marketing is "working".  In 6 months, you might spend $6,000 on marketing and generate $30,000 in revenue, giving you a 5X Return on Marketing. From a business perspective, that number will be a lot more revealing to you than response rate. 

 I know this thread is old but I'm hoping to get some more great answers. It was mentioned that using the 'I buy houses fast' verbiage might not be the best for absentee-owned properties... It was insightful to mention that they may also be investors.  

So to that point,  what approach is better for the absentee-owned properties? Should I focus on the out-of-state maintenance? Or @DevHorn what do you include in your personal postcards? 

Thanks to all for this thread! 

Post: Expectations when viewing home to wholesale

Erin ElamPosted
  • Little Elm, TX
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 47
Originally posted by @Andy Rumple:

#1- If the house is a rental or tenant occupied this should not really be a huge consideration.
       You will value it more by income unless it is in a pricey area.
#2-If house is a rehab and is empty then your scheduling should be more flexible and bringing them
      on first visit would be ok if cleared by owner.
#3-If house is owner occupied then definitely tell the owner that other people are coming and give an
      estimate of how long it will take.

#4-In ANY case I would not pay for an inspection until I was certain I was going to get a favorable
      price from the seller. Do not spend your teams time or resources on deals that are not deals.

 Thanks Andy, that makes sense - yes in the situation I described,  it was owner-occupied.

 Would you say that running comps and getting the initial asking price over the phone before seeing in-person is advisable?

I've read some posts where it's said to not talk numbers over the phone with distressed sellers - that porch time is where the money is. 

But I'm wondering if that is the most efficient use of my time?  ... I guess I also should assume if my marketing material says the right thing,  then the seller should have an idea that (s)he's not walking away a millionaire ... and neither am I. 

Post: Expectations when viewing home to wholesale

Erin ElamPosted
  • Little Elm, TX
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 47

Hello BP,

I need some help! This might seem trivial,  but it's happened so I'd like to know how wholesalers handle this. 

When I go see a house for possible wholesaling - first question: is it ok to go ahead and bring inspector and/ or GC with you?

The reasons being: time is money.  I want to make an educated offer before I leave that sellers porch.  And this is assuming I have already run comps before I set foot on the property. 

Second question (if yes is the answer to the first)... How in the world do you keep the seller busy while the inspector/GC does their thing? 

 Reason I'm asking:  I scheduled and met with a seller who was willing to let me take a look. I brought my inspector,  because I wanted as much info asap on condition of home... well the seller and I talked quite a bit,  but every single time he saw my inspector,  inspect .. "what is that? What do you see?" Etc..

So ... my seasoned wholesalers - I'm sure you are well versed in calculating a pretty accurate ARV without a GC or inspector ... what advice would you give to a new wholesaler??? I want a good reputation as a wholesaler, not a greedy or inaccurate one.

Many thanks in advance, 

Erin

Originally posted by @Alan Pederson:

We have bought 3 houses in the past 2 years and we're seeing about a 15% ROI. We stick with houses under $170k.

 Hi Alan, 

Do you deal with any wholesalers in DFW you would recommend? 

Post: CALLING ALL NEW ZEALAND BASED INVESTORS!

Erin ElamPosted
  • Little Elm, TX
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 47

Kia Ora Tatou!

No I am not from New Zealand so I hope you don't mind my saying hello (and I apologize in advance if I offend anyone) . 

I live in TEXAS, USA where the market has been climbing and shows no signs of slowing for at least the next two years. 

I am able to wholesale homes in the area and wanted to let this beautiful group know to contact me if there is any interest investing in the States. 

Ka Kite Ano,

Post: Staging costs for flippers in Dallas-Fort. Worth (DFW) Texas

Erin ElamPosted
  • Little Elm, TX
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 47
Originally posted by @Marian Smith:

What about staging yourself via Ikea? Some of their sectionals diassemble flat for next time. I believe Ikea has a pretty good idea what young people think is hip and cool decor. Also, I have often wondered if many of the younger set would like to buy a semi-furnished place....you could offer a flip furnished for an additional few grand (if you choose wisely at Ikea) and tell us how it flies. That would be like $20 a month (over 30 years) for brand new Ikea stuff in your new house. I would be attracted, especially if I were moving and the move is 5k to bring my old crap from Ohio.

 Interesting idea,  thank you. 

Post: Staging costs for flippers in Dallas-Fort. Worth (DFW) Texas

Erin ElamPosted
  • Little Elm, TX
  • Posts 356
  • Votes 47
Originally posted by @Bill Hinshaw:

We typically charge around 1% for houses in the 500k - 600k range for full staging, which usually doesn't include the smaller bedrooms. That includes up to 3 months if needed, furniture and decor. 

 Ok thanks for those specifics!