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All Forum Posts by: Ryan McGlasson

Ryan McGlasson has started 8 posts and replied 36 times.

Recently since listening to an older biggerpockets podcast on a member who would syndicate large apartment buildings and any other deals they wanted to purchase I was really intrigued by the idea. A large reason because of the ability to start in real estate without any of your own money really. Which is essential because I do not have the net worth or capital needed for loans or investing money. So upon listening to this podcast and a few others I have become extremely interested in the niche. But in my quest for knowledge I gain many more questions! While I do have a basic understanding of how syndication is performed, I am not understanding key details that I do not seem to be able to find the answers to on the forum or the internet so I wanted to ask here for those who are more experienced, or have any experience at all or knowledge to share.

As a sponsor I am not putting money in the deal just putting it together and making the many moving parts work together. I hear often that it is a wise idea and completely possible to start in real estate in multifamily with a 16+ unit as a first investment because the bigger and more units the less of a risk, which I agree with. What I do not understand is how as a sponsor I can get any lender to loan me the rest of the cash. My understanding is to gain a non-recourse loan, the loan minimum would need to be $1,000,000.If this is the case then the downpayment at minimum would need to be over 250k for a 20% downpayment? Or is it 25%? Do i need to include the repair fee and closing cost with the downpayment? 

I have good credit but no liquidity, no 6-9 month reserves for a property that size and no net worth so to my knowledge a lender will never lend me anything no matter how good a deal correct?  Do letters of intent from an investor really do anything to negate not having those requirements? 

The way I have read around this is to have the limited partner be the one to sign on the loan in exchange for more equity. If this is a solution, then how does this change the sponsor-limited partner relationship? If the sponsor is the one who was supposed to sign for the loan but they cannot how does the contract still come together as me being a sponsor? Would they just split the title with the partners name on the mortgage?   Generally I know you wouldn't want to have an investor sign anything like that but this is a family investor who is willing, but still I would want a method to avoid that and have it signed to me if possible and the limited partners both on non-recourse atleast but then it leads back to the issue of how would I ever realistically get bank funding? Should it be avoided completely and look into hard money loans?   

Advice is appreciated and I thank you in advance. Just need a little nudge in the right direction and I am off.

Post: Is there a way around downpayment?

Ryan McGlassonPosted
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Curtis Bidwell:

@Mary Jay A few thoughts:

Yes, it is possible in some instances, but that doesn’t make it best.  It has to be an awesome deal to not put any thing down and still cash flow adequately. 

Down payment is only one financial issue, you will also generally need to show cash reserves (6-9 months of expenses) to qualify for commercial financing.  

Most typically to pull this off you will need a good relationship with your banker and have a track record. Here’s how I pulled it off: 

It was a 10 unit for $389k.  The bank gave me a line of credit.  I found the property and they agreed to do 20% down financing.  I gave them the down payment from the line of credit they had given me the month before.  I also used it to do updates/repairs.  10 months later I refinanced it at a $750k and took cash out! 

The other way is to get a partner with cash - but that’s another story!

Wow so you put the entire downpayment on a line of credit and did not use a dime of your cash?

When I had first gained an interest in real estate I was thinking the same thing to myself, that I would never invest out of state because I thought it was a foolish idea to not try your own backyard. After spending time on the forums and reading various books and blogs sometimes the market you need is out of state depending on your niche or requirements. Most states you should be able to find something at a 7% cap rate without much issue, just will be a matter of determining a city that meets the vacancy rates and cashflow you desire. Specific cities I am not sure on but some states are on fire more than others in general.

That is quite a large initial downpayment, is it a state law with lenders or a specific reason for it?

Post: Rental market in Savannah, GA

Ryan McGlassonPosted
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Eric Backer:

Hi Vlad.

We've had great luck in the Savannah market. Tenant preferences are based on location of property. SCAD (local private art school) students are our primary tenants, but our houses are located close to downtown. The market has gotten busier since we started buying (3 years ago), but there is still plenty of opportunity.

Rent for one bedroom varies on location, but $900 isn't hard to get for a one bedroom. We have 2 bedroom units bringing in $1,150-$1,400 based on location.

Savannah is changing, but there are some fundamental issues that are just now getting addressed- there is an element of crime, but the economy depends on tourism and you cannot have both! Gulfstream is a large employer as are the ports.

Good luck and do not hesitate to reach out if you have more questions.

Eric.

 Hello! Just passed by this thread because I am researching the Savannah market, you said your primary tenants are students? I am looking to rent out rooms in the house that I purchase and I was assuming most likely students would rent the rooms. Would you say students in that area are likely to rent rooms in a house rather than an apartment? If so roughly what areas are preferable to the local colleges?  I really appreciate any input! 

Originally posted by @Aaron K.:

State taxes should have a minimal effect on evaluation if you live in CA (excluding property tax) because my understanding of how the income would be taxed is (state income was generated in taxes first if it is a higher rate than CA no further tax, if it is lower rate CA takes what you paid the other state into account and taxes the rest of the way up to their normal rate)  Hopefully that made a bit of sense it is difficult to explain in text format.

 I get the general idea of what you are explaining, I have seen that usually state taxes don't effect it too much but maybe it might be more of a factor with a larger investment. 

Originally posted by @Omar Khan:

@Ryan McGlasson This is very complex subject and is highly dependent on investor preferences and the size of the investment. For instance, if you're only looking to invest in a few houses, you are best investing in your own market (to begin) before moving out. You might find better cash flowing deals in other markets but managing them is a major PITA. 

Many folks on these forums complain (rightly) about the sky high California prices BUT Cali also enjoys unmatched capital appreciation rates. So you have to take the good with the bad. 

If you're looking looking to invest in larger commercial properties (multifamily, offices, industrial, etc) - personally or through a partnership/syndication - then you should be more concerned with the points raised by @Caleb Heimsoth.

My article on choosing the right real estate market and avoiding the most common due diligence mistakes should help you get started. 

 Thank you for the input, I am actually doing an owner occupant loan so I would be leaving california for much more affordable markets for my first property.

I will check out those articles! Thanks again.

Hello everyone! I had a question I wanted to ask the general biggerpockets community because I felt it could not only benefit my self to know but others. When you are getting started in real estate investing or even if you have already invested in a city, what are your methods, strategies and criteria you research and look for to branch out and find new cities across the US to invest in that fit your niche? Not specifically the properties or types, but the cities or states themselves.

Do you have states in mind that you look into individually and then begin to determine potential cities?  Do  state tax rates and other local real estate laws influence where you invest?

What city characteristics do you look for or is it strictly cashflow numbers?  How else do you determine if a city or a rental will be rented out quickly?   Tons of questions I know! Just hoping to get a discussion started :)

Originally posted by @Mark Hughes:

How are you planning on buying a FHA SFH as a rental? I see you are in California, are you moving to NC and going to be living there as your primary residence or looking for a long term rental. My experience with fha is you need to live in the property as your primary residence for 1 year.

 Oddly I was not notified this thread had more replies?!    And yes! That is exactly the plan, owner-occupant fha. 

@DJ S. Hello! From reading previous posts on here over a few months I have seen that many people invest and then get the RE license to get ahead on MLS listed deals or save some money haha. Great tip and it really does give a clue to what kind of agent they are.

 I really appreciate all the tips from everyone who commented! :)

Originally posted by @Alex Franks:
Originally posted by @Samuel Collier:

Greensboro is the best kept secret in North Carolina, in my opinion. Third largest city in NC but nowhere near the problems that Raleigh and Charlotte have (traffic, higher cost of living ,etc.) We have over 5 colleges, 20 highschools, a minor league baseball team, a D-league basketball team, a major Coliseum complex that holds the ACC tournament as well as all your other major recording artists. I see a lot of artsy mom and pop restaurants popping up which is a good sign. But more importantly, there are multiple very large apartment complexes being built both downtown and at other major shopping areas. This is an indication that there is still growth potential (Or at least there are enough builders who think so.) My prediction is that over the next decade, as Raleigh and Charlotte become overpriced and overcrowded, Greensboro will be next to be hit with the population wave.

@Samuel Collier my friend no such thing as a hidden market in the Carolinas. More like a market that has not been ransacked as a secondary city. Which again is already happening in many small markets. Really depends on the large markets around those smaller markets. To see what the actual potential for growth will be. As for overpriced my friend the whole market in almost every state is overpriced. 

@Alex Franks that is a great way to view it. Most markets are expensive and you just have to find the upcoming potential money makers!   Gastonia, concord, greensboro are all locations I have heard are still upcoming and favorable for investments. I had always heard mint hill was a great find, I think too many people know now to score a deal! 

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