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All Forum Posts by: Sabrina Brown

Sabrina Brown has started 2 posts and replied 70 times.

Post: Difficulty selling rental properties at loan amount

Sabrina BrownPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 70
  • Votes 82

@Diane G.

Oh no, I am so sorry to hear about your friend, Diane.  That is terrible!  Did she buy it through a TK provider?  If there is still time to save her, would you be able to pm me the details so I can take a look at it?  We may be able to find other ways, especially if information given to her is not accurate like it was in my case in addition to all of the other factors, some I haven't even mentioned in this thread!  Would love to help if I can and have all of my connections put their heads together to find a solution.  

Post: Difficulty selling rental properties at loan amount

Sabrina BrownPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 70
  • Votes 82

@Curt Davis

I understand your point of view.  However, I literally got screwed over with illegal activities performed by several of these companies.  There is a large group of CA investors who went through the same thing, or even worse given that 3 had to file for bankruptcy.  Yes, we are all responsible for our own actions but if we pay for what we think is a trusted company and all they do is neglect, steal, charge 3-5 times for services that were either never needed or were never performed, or they wait for an emergency situation rather than doing preventative work for which they were hired to check on, then I see a justification of the "blame".  I have visited Memphis, I have done online research, I have spoken to more than enough bankers/lenders, local investors, realtors, etc and was given information to verify an investment making sense.  However, the actual market with many TK providers taking over parts of the city skews the numbers but nobody will tell you about it until it's too late.  My situation isn't the only one as I have mentioned above. Now that I am local, I hope I can help enough people, out of state or not, to have a positive experience where all transactions are fair.  I now have a reliable and trustworthy team of contractors, handymen, closing agents, etc. that have helped me turn my properties from losers to winners.

Post: Difficulty selling rental properties at loan amount

Sabrina BrownPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 70
  • Votes 82

UPDATE:

I moved to Memphis just a few weeks ago and after using a new and honest contractor, my properties turned from losers to winners.  Too bad I already sold my Cordova property last year in June at a slight loss.  My Chelsea property is under contract now and I am keeping my Kings Arms Street property.

The moral of this saga is that never ever buy from turnkey providers, hire an honest local contractor instead, make sure you get before and after pictures, and verify all transactions. Most management companies (I used 8 in the last 7 years) will be hands off and if disaster strikes due to their negligence, they will charge you 3-5 times more than what it would normally cost.  On a preventative job that would normally cost $200 they will charge you $1,500.  They will lie out of their teeth and if you never hear from your management company about updates, or get their drive by lists, etc. be assured that they are not doing anything to secure your property.  They are not out for your best interest.  This also means that you may not need a management company and pay them a fee for not doing anything.  They will make money on screwing you over with outrageous repairs.  

Thank you all for your support during this tough time I had.

Post: Difficulty selling rental properties at loan amount

Sabrina BrownPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 70
  • Votes 82

@Josue Garcia I am in good hands with my new and awesome contractor now and things are looking up.  Thank you for asking!

Post: Difficulty selling rental properties at loan amount

Sabrina BrownPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 70
  • Votes 82

Another thing that is hard for out of state investors to figure out:  Zillow's values are completely wrong!  If one doesn't live or know a particular street in Memphis, you would not know this piece of crucial information.  As hard as it is for me to want to support larger banks, sometimes the positive side is that they will use "general comps", not the "real comps" among local investors.  Memphis itself is probably the trickiest market I have come across and experienced personally.  It is such a great city with its genuine people but there is also a very dark sad side to it with lots of crime and poverty.

Post: Difficulty selling rental properties at loan amount

Sabrina BrownPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 70
  • Votes 82

What I learned throughout this process when I got financing for these properties is that one should NEVER use an appraiser that is recommended or linked to the lender.  My appraisals were way too high, then I got the loan approved at a much higher value, then the lender goes out of business and Chase swoops up the loans with higher interests and one can not refinance because it won't appraise for as much.  I believe that laws have changed since but these crooks got away with it. I am just saying it as it is and we must stand up not allowing crooks to get away from it anymore, especially in Memphis where sadly many take great advantage of out of state investors.  

Post: Taking a stand after a $50,000 lie

Sabrina BrownPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 70
  • Votes 82

I just saw this post and wanted to add on here:  there are other courses that these so-called specialists offer and they all work the same way (some are even from out of the country and will say they have all of the connections here in the US and are moving here in the same month while not paying taxes or owning a business license to conduct business!).  You pay a fortune and get almost nothing!  I even reported to the general attorney's office but all I got back was a link to a site that shows you how to avoid scam - duh!  Nothing in their link was helpful to have prevented any of my scam experience!  Of course, I am in CA where no attorney general is concerned with citizen's requests but rather their own and if they do contact you, you are probably the one being investigated for speaking up!  

I would like to know if anything came out of this thread on BP here....please update as there are always more individuals who get scammed!

Post: Difficulty selling rental properties at loan amount

Sabrina BrownPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 70
  • Votes 82

Hello everyone again,

I have numerous updates:

1) Lazzini property - sold in June 2016 at breakeven to loan amount

2) Chelsea property - got vandalized again (3 times in 3 years) because boarding up apparently wasn't good enough and having this so-called "honest and reliable" management company that promised to drive by 1x/month and charged me for gardening 2x/month did NOT DO ANYTHING!  I had a potential buyer who wanted to see the property and he was the one telling me that the property had been vandalized.  I then contact my insurance company and they told me my insurance policy was cancelled about 6 months prior BECAUSE the property was vandalized.  So basically, the management company did nothing and just ripped me off and the insurance agent forgot to inform me because she was busy planning a wedding.  The claim has still not been resolved after 3 1/2 months because the management company dragged their feet in providing a police report filing (they said they were stood up by police 3x but then I insisted on them just simply going to the police station - duh! - and it still took them 3 weeks to do so) and they had no record whatsoever of going to my property.  I found a great contractor now, who almost feels like a concierge service to me, who was referred by a great investor from Bigger Pockets.  The contractor has removed the code violations due to the property not being boarded up and trash sitting outside, including a chair from the inside of the property that I had paid for the management to clean out and remove the debris, which they obviously didn't.  

I still owe about $43,000 on this property and have now sold another out of state property that I owned outright (even though I lost another $20,000 due to that management company there letting the tenant move out during escrow and the first buyer pulled out), thus, I offered the property in as is condition at $29,500 but no matter what, every time I lowered the price, I got offered another $10,000 less.  

Several investors in Memphis finally confirmed that there is a different market for out of state investors than local investors.  We are being taken for a ride and pay about 30-50% more on every single transaction: purchase, rehab, repairs, etc.  and we are being lied to that work had been done when it wasn't done.  Most crooks in Memphis get away with it, even if you have a legal title against them.

Contractor is now helping me fix up the property for $10,000 in total while someone trusted will be living there for free and house sitting and reporting back to us so the property won't get vandalized again until we have found a rent to own tenant. Plan is to get $7,000 minimum down and then covering my PITI plus additional cushion, which will be around market rent in that area. There are 3 other properties nearby that are boarded up, too, but they will be fixed up within a year providing each other higher market value.

3) Kings Arms property - the tenants had paid rent before timely, even though they didn't seem the best candidate.  They offered $100/month more but since they paid, I was okay with it, even though it was still below market and what this large property would go for.  However, I asked the management company to do a full checkup of the property and provide pictures, which they didn't and I kept pulling teeth asking about the status.  Supposedly, a person left and they fell behind on following up. Two months after lease expiration, they just sent me the lease renewal without pictures or information who actually lives at my property.  Two months after that, the tenants fell behind on rent.  I kept pulling more teeth to find out whether they had paid or not.  Then tenants filed Chapter 13 (I am still waiting for any funds to come from the bankruptcy trustee) owing me 2 months rent but were given an automatic stay by the court as long as they paid timely starting the October 2016 rent again.  Sure enough, the tenants ended up falling behind again (management company still didn't inform me and I only saw it a month later when I got their reports).  Bankruptcy court issued another automatic stay extension due to a reorganization because tenant was supposedly very ill.  One month got paid, then they fell behind again, which I found out again a month later from my rent reports instead of management informing me by the 5th of the month.  Then I asked the same contractor I am now using to drive by.  He found out that there are hood rats living at my property of at least 10 people.  Again, when I confronted management, they didn't tell me that they had knowledge of the tenants living with many others and the tenants violate several codes.  I was told by management that they "NEVER drive by a property once it is rented!" and "we have over 1,600 properties to manage so we don't have time to drive by each one of them!"  What?  Hello?  I was shocked to hear this.  So basically the plan now is to evict the tenants ASAP,  if no other criminal/domestic issues happen to get them out immediately (they have stolen tools and almost a cell phone from the management company's plumber, which they also didn't tell me about when it happened).  Management company personnel is lame - they don't want to do any work but if there are high repairs, they will do it without your permission and then just send you the bill a week or two later costing you several thousands.  Management made over $13,000 on me last year and they made me feel like I had to beg them to do something that is standard!

Plan with this property is to get tenants out, fix up a bit to make it sell better.  Hopefully, there is a bit of equity left to do so but again, there are two different markets and it all depends who might be making an offer.

It's all about not getting screwed over by your management company or contractors or even lawyers!  Official market is online, which lenders use, but reality in Memphis is that one gets taken for a ride as soon as you know you are out of state!  Please be careful!

Post: Difficulty selling rental properties at loan amount

Sabrina BrownPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 70
  • Votes 82

The Chelsea Hill property is vacant but needs repairs. The other two are rented with 1 year leases that just started. Please do not disturb occupants, neighbors, management company, etc. Thank you.

Post: Difficulty selling rental properties at loan amount

Sabrina BrownPosted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 70
  • Votes 82

@Olga LevinThe properties were sold to me by Memphis Cash Flow.  Later I was asking them to take them back from me and they were again trying to put a huge premium on top of the already overpriced properties that I bought from them.  I am still struggling to get offers close to my current mortgage balances.

McNutt "managed" my properties for less than 2 months only to find out that he didn't make the necessary repairs that I paid him for but he also collected rent and never paid me.  I filed a lawsuit against him as he also practices without a license.  I have had to pay for the same repairs once again that weren't made by him.

My new management company is called MidSouth Best Rentals.  They are awesome!  They have high standards and are extremely reliable and honest.  I can consider myself lucky to have been able to get them as they usually only handle a large portfolio.  If you are looking for TK properties, they also offer them under their own name.  

At this time, I have two of those properties rented with happy tenants and leases of another year each.  My 3rd property has been vandalized for the 3rd time in 2 years and is once again boarded up.  The tenant that McNutt "found" (if that tenant wasn't also in the game to screw me over as he stole utilities) abandoned the property upon which my property became another target for vandalism. I never saw rent from this tenant for the 6 months he lived there.