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All Forum Posts by: Saran Mandhadapu

Saran Mandhadapu has started 21 posts and replied 84 times.

Originally posted by @Gino Barbaro:

@Saran Mandhadapu

Hi Saran,

Have you shopped the deal to other banks.  Let them fight over your business.  And is this your first deal.  As a first deal, the terms are not bad.  I would ask for a 25 yr amort.  You may be able to get the rate down a bit.  The loan would balloon after 10 years.

Our community bank has given us these terms: 25 yr amor, 4.4% rate, 10 yr term.  We have done some very sizable deals with them and have a bit more leverage.

Gino

 Hi Gino, watched your and your partner Jake's youtube videos last few days and were very informative. This is my second deal. For my first deal that I closed in Dec 2016, I called more than 7 banks local to the property, most of them are small banks. Most of them had 25% down payment or had fees for refinancing elsewhere within the first 5 years.  For second deal I called few more banks. I did find one bank offering 25 YR amortization, but their interest rates and fees were high and their down payment was 25 years.

For my second deal I chose the same bank that financed my first deal. He is offering me 4.9% 5 YR fixed (or 5.9% 10 YR fixed), 20 YR term, 20 YR amortization, no refinance fees, no balloon, origination fee of $1000, doc fee $200 for a $140,000 loan amount.

So with your deal, how long is 4.4% rate fixed? Is it fixed for 10 YR?

Originally posted by @Marc C.:

For such a small loan size, I think it's a great product. 

Thanks for the feedback Marc.

Originally posted by @Ralph R.:

@Saran Mandhadapu  Theres more costs than that with the loan.  Appraisal, tittle insurance, possibly a hazmat survey, an appraisal evaluation fee, etc. etc.  the amortization period is short too.  I  pay 4.6% (I think it went to a little over 5% in December) 25 year amortization, 25% down and fixed for 10 years.

RR

 Yes. The bank sent a bid for appraisal and will choose the lowest bid. Title and insurance is something that I shop around. There are no environmental surveys for this property. This bank and all the banks I called (10 banks) only offer a maximum of 20 year amortization. But they only take 20% down payment. The 5 YR fixed rate is 4.9% and 10 YR fixed rate is 5.9% (these are negotiated rates).  I am not sure how you got 4.6% interest rate after the rate increase by Fed in December. 

Originally posted by @Saran Mandhadapu:
Originally posted by @Patsy Waldron:

Terms seem pretty good, especially the interest rate- some people are not even getting this rate on residential loans! As Andrew said, check what the rate adjusts to after the first 5 years- you'll want to make sure there is a ceiling (e.g. no higher than prime + 1). Also find out what the loan fees are.

 Thanks all for the feedback.

After 5 years, the rate fixes again for another 5 years based on Wall Street Journal Prime + 3 %. He quoted me 5.3% for 5 YR Fixed, I am negotiating the rate down to 4.9%.

He also said he can give me 5.9% for 10 YR fixed but I am planning to choose 5 YR fixed. There is a difference of $70 per month in payments between 5 YR and 10 YR which equates to $4200 for 5 YR.

The Origination fee is $1000 and doc fee is $200 for the $140,000 loan amount.

Sorry, it is not based on wall street journal prime rate + 3%. I spoke to my banker just now and he said after the initial 5 YR fixed term, the rate fixes again based on 5 YR Federal Home Loan Bank Rate + 3% which today is 2.3% + 3% = 5.3%. He did quote me a rate of 5.3% initially and I negotiated it down to 4.9%. I think the 5 YR federal home loan rates are listed in the below link.

http://members.fhlbdm.com/advance-rates/3/

Originally posted by @Patsy Waldron:

Terms seem pretty good, especially the interest rate- some people are not even getting this rate on residential loans! As Andrew said, check what the rate adjusts to after the first 5 years- you'll want to make sure there is a ceiling (e.g. no higher than prime + 1). Also find out what the loan fees are.

 Thanks all for the feedback.

After 5 years, the rate fixes again for another 5 years based on Wall Street Journal Prime + 3 %. He quoted me 5.3% for 5 YR Fixed, I am negotiating the rate down to 4.9%.

He also said he can give me 5.9% for 10 YR fixed but I am planning to choose 5 YR fixed. There is a difference of $70 per month in payments between 5 YR and 10 YR which equates to $4200 for 5 YR.

The Origination fee is $1000 and doc fee is $200 for the $140,000 loan amount.

Originally posted by @Kenneth Garrett:

@Saran Mandhadapu

I only use commercial loans.  I'm not sure after the first five years what does it fix again at?  What is it based on?  4.9% for 5 years is pretty decent.  My financing is typically between 5 and 5.5% amortized over 25 years and is a balloon at 5 years.

It looks pretty good provided you can figure out what rate is after 5 years.

Good Luck.

 Hi Kenneth, thanks for your feedback. After 5 years, the rate fixes again for another 5 year based on Wall Street Journal Prime + 3 %. He quoted me 5.3% for 5 YR Fixed, I am negotiating the rate down to 4.9%.

He also said he can give me 5.9% for 10 YR fixed but I am planning to choose 5 YR fixed.

Hi,

I am purchasing a multi-family unit for $175,000. Here are the loan terms I received from a bank, please let me know if this is good in current market. This is a commercial loan.

Interest Rate fixed for 5 years = 4.9%

At the end of 5 years, the rate fixes again for another 5 years

Loan term = 20 years

Loan amortization = 20 years

Down payment = 20%

Location = York County, PA

No pre-payment or refinance penalty and no balloon payment.

Hi,

I am purchasing a multi-family unit for $175,000. Here are the loan terms I received from a bank, please let me know if this is good in current market. This is a commercial loan.

Interest Rate fixed for 5 years = 4.9%

At the end of 5 years, the rate fixes again for another 5 years

Loan term = 20 years

Loan amortization = 20 years

Down payment = 20%

Location = York County, PA

No pre-payment or refinance penalty and no balloon payment.

Originally posted by @Matt A.:

@Daniel Y. @Saran Mandhadapu - This is a local lender, newish to the area that I invest in (actually a new institution as far as banks go) that currently only lends in Northampton & Lehigh counties. THe loan isnt costing me any points for the rate or terms, and the property that Im acquiring has extremely strong cash flow. The quoted rate initially was 4.75 but after sitting down with the branch manager with an overview (good written presentation) of the project he offered 4.6... who am I to say no? :)

What I found was the application was simple - meaning NONE! It was literally a 30 minute discussion about what Im doing, what Im acquiring, leaving a copy of the sales agreement and my financial statement... Ive filled out nothing, literally no paperwork! Within day I had an informal commitment letter, then the formal one within 7-8 days. Darn easiest thing Ive done in awhile.

 Thanks Matt. My property is in York County, PA. I will keep looking.

Originally posted by @Matt A.:

Im doing a commercial now with 30 yr amortization and 15 year fixed term (best deal Ive found) @ 4.6% 20% down. Closing in 8 days.

I personally couldn't sleep well with 5 year terms for your scenario as described. I gues the short answer is pray that everything doesnt move against you at once wiht that type of loan. 15 years allows me to exit as planned in 7-10 years, maybe a tad longer if things are still going great.

 Hi Matt, I am in PA too and I have a 5 unit multi-family home under contract for purchase and looking to finance it. Can you tell me which bank are you working with? I have called many banks I can only find 20 Year max amortization.  30 year amortization with 15 year fixed term @ 4.6% with 20% down seems to be a good deal. Can you help me with the bank name and the lender contact information please?

Thanks,

Saran