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All Forum Posts by: Shane Moore

Shane Moore has started 4 posts and replied 29 times.

Quote from @Colleen F.:

@Shane Moore It differs by area but I think many go into Section 8 because when renting to a low income tenant they feel safer with a S8 tenant than with a working tenant paying all their own rent. The perception and it may be true is that the tenant paying all their own rent is one crisis shy of failing to pay. I take who is qualified and I think you are still doing a service for people.  I have blue collar workers who I know were grateful for the chance to get a unit because they had less rental history and while they qualify aren't the highest earning or credit score.  They are not S8 but construction and local business employees. I have had some S8 applicants but they just take too long and that is one of the issues with S8, if you have lead time to fill a unit it is fine but if you don't it can take too long. Also they won't inspect until you have a tenant so for a fresh rehab ok but an older building they could have issues.  Make sure your local inspectors are reasonable.


I see your point here. Waiting to fill a unit could definitely outweigh the perks if not careful. thank you for the feedback! I appreciate all of you. 
Peace and Blessings 
Shane 
Quote from @Mohammed Sherjan:

Section 8 investments offer pros like guaranteed rent payments from the government, high demand in low-income areas, and long-term tenants, but cons include strict property inspections, potential for higher maintenance due to tenant wear, and bureaucratic delays in approvals or payments.


 It’s almost seems counterintuitive to buy and rehab to a higher quality home if it’s just going to to be destroyed. However that is what the city development director and I are hoping to do. What are your thoughts? 

Blessings 

Shane 

Quote from @Jaycee Greene:
Quote from @Shane Moore:
Quote from @Jaycee Greene:
Quote from @Shane Moore:

Good morning BP family,

I currently hold a couple of Long Term rentals one sfh and one duplex with a commercial property north of Macon and have a friend that invests in the area but does not have section 8 rentals because she inherited all of her properties and they were never set up as section 8. That being said, I have been considering section 8 sfh investments here in Macon Ga. and wanted to get feedback from those who have been there and done that or have experience in that specific market. What are the pros and cons of section 8 investing? Is it worth the headache (dealing with the government is bound to be a headache) at least this is my assumption. Does it result in properties more prone to property damage, difficult tenants, and troublesome evictions etc. What is the sweet spot for home sizes? Are their certain size homes required (ie. Sqft)? Any guidance and direction in this would be greatly appreciated. I appreciate the wealth of knowledge that you guys represent.

Peace and Blessings,

Shane 

Hey @Shane Moore The success (or not) of S8 properties can be highly dependent on your relationship with the housing authority that manages the area. You'll want to know what the FMR (Fair Market Rent) is for your zip code/bedroom count. My clients that have S8 units do a lot of upfront tenant screening, which can reduce the amount of damage/tenant issues. Also, I'd highly recommend checking out Mike Curadossi's, "Section 8 Done Right".


 Thank you for the information and the recommendation of the book. I have been working along side our city development director to take my current properties to a new level. We want to make a better/nice property for people to be proud to call home. That is part of what makes me reluctant to pursue S8. The city has been great so far. I will definitely discuss this inquiry with them. I will also check out the reading recommendation. 
thank you,

Shane 

@Shane Moore I'm not sure why you can't do both at the same time. On a separate note, are you personally connected/invested in the community for a specific reason? Most of my clients look to give back to communities through their real estate development skills and generally have 1 of 3 things involved, 1) They grew up in the community, 2) They still go to church in the area, and 3) They have family members that still live in the area. Do any of these resonate with you?


 True… my company is a Biblically based company who strives to give back to the community and its surrounding area. I am only about 15 minutes down the road from my rentals and I am a very Astor in the community! I also have family in the area. It’s more than bricks and mortar to us. It’s about building community and serving people. What we do is a part of our ministry… at least I see what we do as ministry. 

Blessings 

Shane 

Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:

its a specialty niche no doubt.. those that think its easy and guranteed rent usually end up in a bad place.. those that Micro manage every aspect and are local and know what to expect can make it work..

However one just needs to consider the tenant base of section 8 basically nationwide.. your talking single mothers and multiple children .. those are the toughest situations for the homes for on going maintenance and repairs.  And if does not matter if your section 8 or not but you have small children living in a home your homes are going to take a lot of abuse.. Kids are kids and they bang into things they break things they break window shades they stand on oven doors they spill things etc etc..


Definitely  a great point to consider… the community that I am currently in is definitely catering to those who have multiple children as well. Thanks for the feedback. 

Blessings,

Shane 

Quote from @Jaycee Greene:
Quote from @Shane Moore:

Good morning BP family,

I currently hold a couple of Long Term rentals one sfh and one duplex with a commercial property north of Macon and have a friend that invests in the area but does not have section 8 rentals because she inherited all of her properties and they were never set up as section 8. That being said, I have been considering section 8 sfh investments here in Macon Ga. and wanted to get feedback from those who have been there and done that or have experience in that specific market. What are the pros and cons of section 8 investing? Is it worth the headache (dealing with the government is bound to be a headache) at least this is my assumption. Does it result in properties more prone to property damage, difficult tenants, and troublesome evictions etc. What is the sweet spot for home sizes? Are their certain size homes required (ie. Sqft)? Any guidance and direction in this would be greatly appreciated. I appreciate the wealth of knowledge that you guys represent.

Peace and Blessings,

Shane 

Hey @Shane Moore The success (or not) of S8 properties can be highly dependent on your relationship with the housing authority that manages the area. You'll want to know what the FMR (Fair Market Rent) is for your zip code/bedroom count. My clients that have S8 units do a lot of upfront tenant screening, which can reduce the amount of damage/tenant issues. Also, I'd highly recommend checking out Mike Curadossi's, "Section 8 Done Right".


 Thank you for the information and the recommendation of the book. I have been working along side our city development director to take my current properties to a new level. We want to make a better/nice property for people to be proud to call home. That is part of what makes me reluctant to pursue S8. The city has been great so far. I will definitely discuss this inquiry with them. I will also check out the reading recommendation. 
thank you,

Shane 

Post: Rent By The Room Strategy

Shane MoorePosted
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Josh,

I am currently investing in Thomaston, Griffin, and working on landing some properties in Lamar County. 

Good morning BP family,

I currently hold a couple of Long Term rentals one sfh and one duplex with a commercial property north of Macon and have a friend that invests in the area but does not have section 8 rentals because she inherited all of her properties and they were never set up as section 8. That being said, I have been considering section 8 sfh investments here in Macon Ga. and wanted to get feedback from those who have been there and done that or have experience in that specific market. What are the pros and cons of section 8 investing? Is it worth the headache (dealing with the government is bound to be a headache) at least this is my assumption. Does it result in properties more prone to property damage, difficult tenants, and troublesome evictions etc. What is the sweet spot for home sizes? Are their certain size homes required (ie. Sqft)? Any guidance and direction in this would be greatly appreciated. I appreciate the wealth of knowledge that you guys represent.

Peace and Blessings,

Shane 

Good to know, I have that on my list of want to read books so, I think I will move it towards the top of the list and catch it next. Thanks for the review!

Peace and Blessings,

Shane 

Post: Rent By The Room Strategy

Shane MoorePosted
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Quote from @Josh Bowser:

Carlos - congrats on the success so far!

From what I am seeing/hearing, there is room rental demand just about everywhere in the country. Great way to test demand would be to poke around Facebook housing groups in your area to see what rooms are going for and how many people are on there looking for rooms to rent. You can even post a 'tester' listing on FB marketplace/Craigslist/Zillow/furnishedFinder ect to see what demand looks like.

I work with a ton of Coliving investors in Atlanta that operate on the padsplit platform - lot of demand here due to the discount you can rent a room for vs. going out and renting an apartment.

If rents are relatively expensive in Cape Coral - good chance there is a lot of demand for individual room rentals.


This is all great information... do you know if these room renters are signing a short/mid/long term lease? I invest about 60 miles south of Atlanta and have often wondered about renting by the room. 
Thank you in advance,
Shane 

Thank you all for the feedback. I appreciate your insight.

Peace and Blessings

Shane