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All Forum Posts by: Shiva Bhaskar

Shiva Bhaskar has started 53 posts and replied 506 times.

Post: Investor friendly title company in LA?

Shiva BhaskarPosted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 523
  • Votes 476
Originally posted by @Richard Smith:

Anyone know of any good titles companies in Los Angeles that I could get into contact with?

 Richard, I'm a local investor, and we deal with a great title rep. She knows her stuff and is really helpful. Feel free to message me for her info. 

Post: Tenant removal process in Los Angeles (San Pedro)

Shiva BhaskarPosted
  • Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 523
  • Votes 476
Originally posted by @Peter Pettersson:

Hi all,

Situation: Have an accepted offer for a fourplex in San Pedro. Walked the property and its a complete redo outside and inside (mold, water damage, sewer issue, etc). The numbers are tight. The construction project would not start until 12 months from now. 

Complication and main concern for backing out: One of the current tenants have lived there for 20 years (over 62 years old) and one is section 8.

Questions: 

  • Can anyone share their experience with evicting tenants in LA county for major renovation (I assume that the current Covid regulations will be lifted 12 months from now)?
  • Can anyone recommend a good lawyer that I can consult with?
  • I read that Cash for Keys can be rejected in Los Angeles County, whats your experience with this?

Thank you in advance for the help!

     Hi Peter, I'm a multifamily investor in LA, and also an attorney (not real estate though). I think it's wise to consult with an attorney, as the approval process around moving out tenants due to habitability issues can be complex. Tenants can say no to standard cash for keys offers any time (like if property had no issues). However, when there are habitability issues, and the city agrees with you, there is a process to get the repairs done.

    I know an excellent landlord attorney who might be able to consult on this. He is very involved with the major LA apartment owners association, and advises many sizable landlords. Please feel free to DM me and I'll pass along the information. 

    Post: There are no "bad markets", just bad strategies / operators?

    Shiva BhaskarPosted
    • Investor
    • Los Angeles, CA
    • Posts 523
    • Votes 476
    Originally posted by @Lee Ripma:

    @Shiva Bhaskar I think the person/team doing the deal has a massive impact. I tell people, you and I could by identical properies across the street from each other and have very different outcomes. I attribute that to the operator not the market or property. I personally really want to create/get EQUITY in my properties. So I wouldn’t touch the cash flow in Cleveland. But for some they totally make that work and it’s incredible for them. Great post! 

    Thanks Lee! Yes, I know you're in LA as well, and I too see multifamily properties on the same block that are operated vastly differently. We can almost pick out, by driving by, the ones that have been maintained or perhaps changed hands to a new operator recently, and the ones that are being allowed to stagnate or even get worse over time. That's totally on the operator.  

    Post: There are no "bad markets", just bad strategies / operators?

    Shiva BhaskarPosted
    • Investor
    • Los Angeles, CA
    • Posts 523
    • Votes 476
    Originally posted by @Lamar Lee:

    @Shiva Bhaskar

    Take the same 20-50 year outlook and apply it to deals with a 15% ROI annually, on a total capital basis. In 7 years you have received all of your capital back, in TAX FREE CASH FLOW and have an infinite return for however long you hold the property.

    That’s regardless of if the market goes up, down, or stays the same (and we all know what happens to the value of real estate over time).

    If you factor in appreciation (which is icing on the cake) at a minimal rate of 5% a year, along with rent growth, you have a hard time finding a better investment.

    By the way, that’s with no leverage. Add leverage to the deal, and you’ve turned a home run into a grand slam.

    Now do that 20 times.

    We’re talking about rental real estate. I don’t care about population decline. I care about supply and demand. As long as the balance between supply and demand is favorable and there are jobs in the market, you have the perfect storm for building equity, and most importantly, creating long term cash flow that you can live off of!

    Great points Lamar. While I can't say Detroit is a market we're interested in, I certainly think you have a great strategy and what you said makes sense.  

    Post: Dump Your Real Estate Agent

    Shiva BhaskarPosted
    • Investor
    • Los Angeles, CA
    • Posts 523
    • Votes 476

    We used this exact argument with a multifamily owner, who did not have an agent. Pointed out that he would give up 4% to 5% of the sale price in commissions, and the time burned with the broker bringing different investors, who may or may not close. He gave us a solid 7% discount, compared to what a very similar property sold for within walking distance. 

    Now other sellers might want an agent, so might investors. We use agents too. Heck, I was one myself. 

    I do think any owner occupant who is not savvy, or a first time buyer, should have an agent. too many ways to get burned. 

    Post: There are no "bad markets", just bad strategies / operators?

    Shiva BhaskarPosted
    • Investor
    • Los Angeles, CA
    • Posts 523
    • Votes 476
    Originally posted by @Evan Polaski:

    @Shiva Bhaskar, as you mention, there are people succeeding in all markets, big and small, low crime and high crime, etc.

    Investing overall comes down to finding a hole in the market and filling it.  But there are bad markets to invest in, and those are the ones you don't understand, or your strategy is not aligned with actual demand.

     Very true. I think having the wrong strategy, and not understanding the market, can be very dangerous. I see folks succeeding in rough areas around the country, because they're local, know the tenant base have the right vendors, etc. You find others who don't have that expertise get burned in the same market. Local expertise is crucial. 

    Post: There are no "bad markets", just bad strategies / operators?

    Shiva BhaskarPosted
    • Investor
    • Los Angeles, CA
    • Posts 523
    • Votes 476
    Originally posted by @Lamar Lee:

    The acquisition and operating team make all the difference in buy and hold real estate, in any market. There are great operators in all markets, they are just tough to find if you don’t know what you’re looking for. 

    It also depends on what you’re investing for. I invest for cash flow so, Detroit is the perfect market for my investment strategy. 

    If you’re looking to grow a large portfolio of cash flowing real estate, you have to be in a market with enough inventory to scale. 

    You also don’t want to be in a market that’s too competitive. Competitive markets lack yield. As an investor, I love the fact that people are scared of what they don’t know when it comes to Detroit. It allows us to continue buying properties with excellent intrinsic value. 

    A good acquisition and operating team will allow you to purchase income-producing real estate below replacement costs. That margin of safety, combined with great yield, make it hard to lose in a market like Detroit. 

    Good points here Lamar. I agree with you partially. Detroit has high yields, though like Cleveland, the long -term population loss / overall demographics is definitely concerning for a long term hold.

    I'll also say that some of the most competitive markets are that way for a reason. I think folks who bought in Los Angeles or NYC 30 or even 20 years ago, have done better in long term rent growth and appreciation than most other places. If you expand that time to 40 or 50 years, perhaps most true.

    However, you're totally right that if you can do something (buy in Detroit) that scares other investors, and makes you money, you should do it. Glad to hear of your success! 

    Post: There are no "bad markets", just bad strategies / operators?

    Shiva BhaskarPosted
    • Investor
    • Los Angeles, CA
    • Posts 523
    • Votes 476
    Originally posted by @Joe Villeneuve:

    Yes, there are bad markets to invest in, but you are correct in saying your can cure "some" of them based on the strategies you use.  

    Also, don't the mistake thinking that higher sales prices and/or higher rents are what makes a good market.  All that does is make it an expensive market.  A good market is one where you make money either cash flowing, or flipping.

    Joe, I agree with you. The point about higher sales prices and higher rents is an important one. You find residential markets here in CA where prices are very high, and doing a rental makes no sense. Good for flips if you can find a fixer, but not otherwise.

    I also think the reverse is true. Some folks see $40K houses and $700 rents, and look at cap rates and see dollar signs. Important to consider why the cap rates are so high, and prices / rents so low. Usually a reason, and it often goes to crime and population loss. Seems like flipping a better strategy in such an area. 

    Post: There are no "bad markets", just bad strategies / operators?

    Shiva BhaskarPosted
    • Investor
    • Los Angeles, CA
    • Posts 523
    • Votes 476
    Originally posted by @David Gross:

    @Shiva Bhaskar what’s up buddy!

     David! Been a while man. DM'ing you! 

    Post: There are no "bad markets", just bad strategies / operators?

    Shiva BhaskarPosted
    • Investor
    • Los Angeles, CA
    • Posts 523
    • Votes 476
    Originally posted by @Brad Hammond:

    Hi @Shiva Bhaskar, me again.  I totally agree with this.  I grew up in Cleveland and my dad was BRRRRing before it was cool.  He never made very much money and had to have one of his properties foreclosed on in 2014 because the crime was so bad in the area.  

    On the other side, I invest in Portland, Oregon, and have tons of success.  While my properties don't cash flow as much as other areas, the appreciation makes me substantially more money.  I think it is so important to study the market and do what makes sense for that market.  Do the math and the math will tell you what to do. 

    This is so true. I visited CLE in 2018 and was impressed from a cashflow standpoint, but older investors warned about the challenges too. It seems some folks doing flips there have done very well though. Portland is definitely a buy and hold market.