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All Forum Posts by: Rob Jacobs

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Post: Applied for Forbearance and Was Offered Only a Short-Sale Option

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Quote from @Susan McBride:
Quote from @Rob Jacobs:

Banks are required to offer you all options that are possible and in your case, it's a short sale. If you're only 30 days behind, you have a few moths before an auction will take place. As long as you close on your house before the foreclosure sale date, you're fine. If you get to within 60 days of the foreclosure, you need to move to a short sale immediately. Banks often require you to have a full set of documents including an accepted offer in their files and the short sale case oened 37 days prior to the auction date. 

Thank you very much.  The only gave me until 5/29 to agree to a short sale.  Should I agree or ignore them just keep trying to sell it?


Don't ignore them, just play along with them for now to keep them from canceling your hardship request. Just drag your feet on everything up to their deadlines as much as you can until your house is sold. 

In this market, your house should sell in a week as long as you have an experienced agent. The bank will require it to be listed on the MLS anyway. A good agent will know how to get top dollar fast.

Post: Applied for Forbearance and Was Offered Only a Short-Sale Option

Rob JacobsPosted
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Banks are required to offer you all options that are possible and in your case, it's a short sale. If you're only 30 days behind, you have a few moths before an auction will take place. As long as you close on your house before the foreclosure sale date, you're fine. If you get to within 60 days of the foreclosure, you need to move to a short sale immediately. Banks often require you to have a full set of documents including an accepted offer in their files and the short sale case oened 37 days prior to the auction date. 

Post: Offer & compromise on IRS lien belonging to deceased owner

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Quote from @Ibrahim Hughes:

Hi everyone. Just wondering if anyone has had any luck or experience with a situation where there's an IRS lien against a deceased owner.

There is enough equity in the home to pay it off but wondering if any accountants can chime in here on what the chances would be of getting such a lien discounted in light of the owner being deceased. Thanks in advance.


The bank will usually payoff the IRS lien out of the short sale proceeds if you go that route. It's not a guarantee and you'll need to go through the process first. I've closed over 50 in this situation and the IRS was paid on all of them. 

The other problem is, why would the estate go through this process when they get nothing at the end. Goof luck!

Post: Second Thoughts..Is it worth it!?

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Quote from @Latoya Pryor:

Honest opinions on wholesaling and is it worthwhile?  Been trying at it for a year now and it has yet to be proven as successful as they say.  However I do currently have one property under contract which is in the process of probate and issues related to a reverse mortgage that was in place by the deceased mother.  May end up being a short sale in the end.  However it took me 6 months in to even get close to the deal.  Not to mention almost getting screwed on a deal that was posted by a scammer. I've heard creating an SEO for my website would be helpful but I don't come forth with a lot of money for what these people are asking to set it up?  I'm sure I could figure out how to do it on my own but have been told that is not the best route to go being inexperienced.  OK so how do you get that experience?  Experience comes from learning doesn't it?


Your statement is concerning. If you are wholesaling, a short sale is not possible. The point of doing a wholesale deal is to find a home with a lot of equity so that you can flip it to an end buyer and a short sale means that there is no equity at all. If you have a house under contract that you're trying to wholesale and it goes into foreclosure, you could be held liable for the foreclosure. I would tread carefully on this deal.

Post: Buying Short Sale

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Hit me up if you would like to talk. Too much going on with your deal for a chat reply.

Post: Which comes first in a preforeclosure: contract or call the lender?

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Quote from @Patricia Cote:
Quote from @Eliott Elias:

It depends on your exit strategy. If you are working subject to, you leave the purchase price blank, and leave it open to the remainder of the balance of the loan. The seller should have somewhat of an idea of what they owe. Your purchase price should be above that.


 Oh I forgot to mention that, my exit strategy is to assign it wholesale. Great, yes, we know the balance remaining and I can make my offer above it.  Appreciate your response!!! 



When wholesaling a property, it needs to have equity. A short sale by definition is a property that does not have equity and cannot close escrow making wholesaling impossible. If you have a recent statement from the seller's bank, you'll know from that if the home is negative in equity. If it's close, order a payoff to be certain.

95% of the banks require the home to be listed on the open market with a real estate agent too but, you can get an agent to list the property and have your offer ready to begin negotiations with the seller's bank.

Short sales typically take 2-3 months if you have an experienced short sale agent or negotiator working the case. If you're doing this on your own having never done a short sale, it can take much longer. 

Post: How or "if" to negotiate junior liens in a short sale.

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Quote from @Sean Dougherty:

Trying to wrap my head around this process.

I have a seller who has a home underwater. Selling via short sale. She is divorced an although husbands name is still in on title, she has court approved authority to sell home without his signature.

There were 2 junior liens attached to the home.

1) Child support liens of husband. We were able to successfully detach this lien from the house.

2) Lien from ex-husbands private loan ($20k).  Is there a way to detach this lien from the home as well?

Should we attempt to detach that lien before we submit an offer to lender?

Or should we submit offer to lender and let them deal with the junior lien?


 Regarding the ex-husband's issues. If the divorce decree states that the debt is entirely his alone and the house is entirely hers, there is a chance that you can do a quit claim deed removing the ex husband from the deed. 

Run this by your title attorney or title company to make sure that this would remove the lkien before doing the work though.

Post: How or "if" to negotiate junior liens in a short sale.

Rob JacobsPosted
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Quote from @Sean Dougherty:
Quote from @Wayne Brooks:

@Sean Dougherty As @Minna Reid mentioned, the 1st mtg holder doesn’t negotiate with junior liens, you or the agent/negotiator handling the short sale does. The lender simply agrees to or rejects whatever amount is shown on a proposed closing statement that shows them their Net.

I always told buyers they should expect to contribute additional money, above and beyond the purchase price, to get these junior liens settled.


 Thanks for the info Wayne. 

Would the senior lien holder ever pay a junior lien that is not a mortgage lien? 

Would senior lien holder even allow me to pay off the junior lien in full and then short them on their lien?


Hey Sean. If the loan is a GSE of HUD backed, the bank will pay 10% of the junior lien and the lien holder would be required to accept it with a full debt release. Most of the time the junior linens understand this and play ball but, there is no guarantee. You just have to try.

If you pay off the 2nd lien, there is no chance that you'll get it back from the first lien out of the proceeds since the lien will be removed and the 1st lien holder will know that. 

If you pay off the 2nd, you do have the option where you can put a new lien on the home after it closes as a 2nd lien for the new homeowner as long as it applies and you have proper paperwork backing up your request for a lien.

Post: Convincing probate attorney to short sale

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Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Sean Dougherty

Even if you convince the probate it doesn’t mean the lender will accept it


If you prequalify the seller properly, you'll get it approved. PLus, you have to know what you're doing. Short sales are rife with issues and if you have not done many, you will have problems. I've closed over 3200 with a 99% closing rate and the reason for my success is that I only take on clients who qualify and show me that they are 100% on board and in it to win it. if the seller is lazy, half-hearted, and doesn't care, it's a waste of my time and theirs. 

Post: Are short sales & foreclosures coming?

Rob JacobsPosted
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Yes, It's coming and it's nothing to do with Residential housing, it's entirely outside influences of other markets. For instance, subprime mortgages were fixed but, the banks in all of their brilliance decided to offer subprime in Auto, Commercial real estate, Business loans and other markets. The 3 above are all in bad shape and ready to collapse. 

In addition, the Fed wants to raise unemployment to around 5%. How does the fed stop it at that target number? Easy answer, they can't control it and it it stops at 5%, it's a miracle.

Corporate losses are staggering and companies are trying to hold back from laying people off but, as stocks decline, investors will demand something to be done and eventually layoffs will happen. Once people burn through their savings, it's off the auction block and that's where it begins.

I'll be posting  BLOG with data to back up everything stated here but, I don't have the time right now so, I'll drop a link once it's done.