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All Forum Posts by: Kimberly H.

Kimberly H. has started 27 posts and replied 142 times.

Post: Declining your first applicant (tenant)~ Whew!

Kimberly H.Posted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 63
Originally posted by @Dave Chapa:

While serving, some were crying, pleading and most were angry. (I kept reminding myself of how they were treating the property) I told them that this is only business, not personal, and that they can re-apply when we finished the renovations. None took us up after reading our criteria sheet.

Sometimes we have to make hard decision to protect and build our RE business.

Touching story...I totally get it now. They will be the first to burn you.

Post: Declining your first applicant (tenant)~ Whew!

Kimberly H.Posted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 63
Originally posted by @Fernando Asencio:

how did u feel afterwards?  Im new to this.  In nj.  

I felt sad.Just felt like I disappointed them and their dreams. Seems like a lovely family. I was hoping they were the ones. 

Post: Declining your first applicant (tenant)~ Whew!

Kimberly H.Posted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 63
Originally posted by @Stone Timber:
Originally posted by @Kimberly H.:

@Shawn Ackerman - My reason as follows:

She co-signed for a car and has her own. 30-60 day late payments on the co-signed car (total car payments $750), if shes stuck with the co-signed vehicle.  

$750 for car payments?!?!?!?!

Explained above.

Post: Declining your first applicant (tenant)~ Whew!

Kimberly H.Posted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 63
Originally posted by @Khadijah Bell:

I can sooo relate to this! @Kimberly H. I was emotional about potential tenants and even actual tenants when I first started as a landlord.

I used to worry about how people would make it if I didn't give them a chance,  would listen to sob stories, try to work with people, etc. etc. 

But I can tell you now after learning the VERY hard way, ( I had to evict my first 2 tenants!) you absolutely can't be emotional, every decision has to be business based! 

Now, I don't feel bad declining anyone who doesn't meet my criteria and you shouldn't either. My uncle once told me "You're an investor, not a psychiatrist - tell 'em to cry on someone else's shoulder!" 

Blessings in all your endeavors!

The key with me is to have enough cash flow so I'm not afraid to walk about form a bad tenant.  It's been an expensive journey so far with many mistakes, I certainy don't want to make the final mistake at the "potential" finish line.  Imaginary finish line. LOL

Post: Declining your first applicant (tenant)~ Whew!

Kimberly H.Posted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 63
Originally posted by @Andrea Castor:

I had my first "emotional" no a couple months back. We had a property on the market to sell but as it was getting close to winter, we were planning on taking the property off the market and trying again in the spring. Military family came to us, would make GREAT renters, but they only wanted a 3 mo lease. I was fine with that since I wanted the place back on market in 4 mo anyway. All was going to work out perfectly. Until we got an offer (for asking) the day they did their smartmove application. There was no signed agreement, I had been very clear our ultimate goal was to sell, and the property was still on the market. She was REALLY mad, pregnant and saying I put her in the hospital for stress to the baby, all kinds of harsh words. At the end of the day, I helped her find another rental even after all the nasty words, BUT, I had to do what was right for me. Tough sometimes...

Well at least it all worked out. You were still able to help.  Just shows that you are a caring person, even after the insults.  

Post: Declining your first applicant (tenant)~ Whew!

Kimberly H.Posted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 63
Originally posted by @Judy Parker:

@Kimberly H. Why is Baltimore a tough rental market?  I would think that, due to population density, you would have lots of potential candidates.  What are you leasing - a house or an apartment?

Tough I mean, I might have to lower my standards a bit. The average credit score for Baltimore city is on the low side comparied to other markets. There are other factors I will have to weight heavily on.  Just a minor adjustments is what I'm thinking. We shall see.  It's only been advertised for 3 weeks and it's after the holidays and very cold out.

Post: Declining your first applicant (tenant)~ Whew!

Kimberly H.Posted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 63
Originally posted by @Trevor Western:

@Kimberly

I recommend you write out your qualification criteria for the apartment and stick to it.  I print out a few copies and hand them to the potential applicants.  I can then point them to the specific issue that prevented them from being qualified.  ie. 3x income not there, or credit score below 600, or evictions in the past. 

This protects you from any accusations you treated someone differently for arbitrary reasons.  The reasons are all spelled out and everyone is treated the same.

 Yes, I do have them written down, but haven't been good at re-iterating the same message every time.  I've learned my lesson.  Thankfully I only live 5 minutes from my rental, so I haven't wasted too much time showing the property to peole that are just fishing. 

Post: Declining your first applicant (tenant)~ Whew!

Kimberly H.Posted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 63
Originally posted by @Judy Parker:

@Kimberly H. You definitely made the right decision.  A tenant like that would have been a headache.  And once you let them into the Premises, you can't get them out without going through eviction. 

 Yes and I know nothing is 100%, but at least I feel like I'm doing the proper due diligence. Let's just pray I get some good follow ups.  I'm in the Baltimore area, so that's a tough market.  

Post: Declining your first applicant (tenant)~ Whew!

Kimberly H.Posted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 63
Originally posted by @Dave Krenk:

Good job. Always remember it is not personal - it is a business. I always hand out a sheet that outlines our acceptance criteria and make sure they understand that there WILL be a background check. Sometimes the tenants just screen themselves and I never hear back. We use a LLC so I always represent myself as the property manager (which I am, in addition to being manager of the LLC). I will "turn in" the application and "they" will either approve or deny. We use a third party for qualifying tenants - I am involved but I never represent myself as the only person making the decision. It gets easier the more you do and you will be amazed at what some people try to pull.

 Yes, that's my experience as well.  When you explain the criteria... vamoose.  All good words that they qualify then silence.  That's exactly what I want to happen.  Most people don't want to waste that $39 bucks. 

Post: Declining your first applicant (tenant)~ Whew!

Kimberly H.Posted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 146
  • Votes 63
Originally posted by @Jeff B.:
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:

@Kimberly H. Two things I remind myself of when I have to deny someone:

1. Denying them now is easier than having to evict them later.

2. The faster I deny them, the sooner they can move on and find a home that is a better fit.

AMEN.  It's hard to tell a single mom w/kids NO after she's whining "we have no where to go!"

Your rental is not the County Social Service department - - you poured lots of work, time, and money into it.  Let your property taxes go to work for you to solve the social issues.

 AMEN to that!  You guys are sharks "In a good way". :)