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All Forum Posts by: Ellie Narie

Ellie Narie has started 94 posts and replied 200 times.

Post: Need advice: How do I make an offer on a foreclosed 4plex?

Ellie NariePosted
  • Investor
  • Ashland, OR
  • Posts 202
  • Votes 38

I need advice! There's a foreclosed 4plex in decent condition that I'd like to buy with an FHA loan. I really really want it! The place is in ok condition but might need some updated paint, but otherwise it's in decent condition, so I might not even need to improve it or anything. It's listed for 450k, but my real estate agent said there are already 3 offers on it, and it's been on the market for less than a week! Do you think people are offering more than 450k on it? Should I offer more? I don't even know if I can qualify for more via FHA, I think I might qualify for like 455k based on all the numbers... do you think I have a poor chance of getting this fourplex?

Also, what if I write a letter to the bank that has it about my situation? Maybe they will feel sorry for me or something and sell it to me, whatever works lol! I don't know if I can actually do this, and what my chances are of the bank actually looking at it? 

any other inputs?

Originally posted by @Michael Plante:
Originally posted by @Ellie Narie:
Originally posted by @Michael Plante:
Originally posted by @Ellie Narie:

I am thinking of getting an FHA loan to buy land and buy a brand new manufactured home to put on there. There's a mobile home builder near me and they can do custom floor plans, so I'm thinking of putting a lot of rooms into the home and renting them out, or perhaps putting in an "in-law" suite to rent out, while also living in the home. Mobile homes are just a lot cheaper than stick built. Like, quite a lot, maybe 50% cheaper, and they look great on the inside, like a "million dollar" home. But, I know they depreciate... is it really a bad idea to buy a brand new manufactured home and put it on permanent foundation? The homes look great and it's way more square footage for the money...

 Are there another mobiles for rent in the area?

Muir much do they rent for?

How much will the land cost you?

All of this depends upon the area you are thinking of doing this

Why have it customs built?

Why add an in law apt?

Custom built because I want to add an inlaw apartment and to design the house in a way where I don't have to interact with the tenants, as in, they have their own exits and entrances and perhaps make their bedrooms into mini studios (with full bathroom and kitchenette). I want to have the tenants pay the mortgage. The rooms will rent for the same amount no matter whether it is stick built or not. Land is about 30-40k, which I will also have to buy with the FHA loan.

Ah ok my apologies.  I missed where you said you would live in the home

I would see if local law would consider that a duplex.  

It's more about the fact that FHA will only finance duplexes that are pre-built, but since building a "new" manufactured home is considered new construction, FHA doesn't allow multi-family homes that are new construction. So, the lot that I'm looking at will actually allow a duplex, but financing won't.

Originally posted by @Joe G.:

@Ellie Narie Have you looked into modular homes versus mobile homes? You can have the builder customize the floor plan and have the final plans for approvals prior to starting your project. This allows you to ensure that you will be able to obtain funding and comply with all local zoning / building laws. Modular can be just a tad more than mobile, but the construction and lead times allow you to break ground and be at use and occupancy in about a month for most projects. Also, if you are interested in building for cash flow, check out some of the companies that offer modular duplex. This way, the loan and local approvals will explicitly approve a multifamily on that property. Not an expert in this area, but I am reading about it as well for a multiplex project. Good Luck!

 I have, but they cost pretty much the same as stick-built. 

Originally posted by @Michael Plante:
Originally posted by @Ellie Narie:

I am thinking of getting an FHA loan to buy land and buy a brand new manufactured home to put on there. There's a mobile home builder near me and they can do custom floor plans, so I'm thinking of putting a lot of rooms into the home and renting them out, or perhaps putting in an "in-law" suite to rent out, while also living in the home. Mobile homes are just a lot cheaper than stick built. Like, quite a lot, maybe 50% cheaper, and they look great on the inside, like a "million dollar" home. But, I know they depreciate... is it really a bad idea to buy a brand new manufactured home and put it on permanent foundation? The homes look great and it's way more square footage for the money...

 Are there another mobiles for rent in the area?

Muir much do they rent for?

How much will the land cost you?

All of this depends upon the area you are thinking of doing this

Why have it customs built?

Why add an in law apt?

Custom built because I want to add an inlaw apartment and to design the house in a way where I don't have to interact with the tenants, as in, they have their own exits and entrances and perhaps make their bedrooms into mini studios (with full bathroom and kitchenette). I want to have the tenants pay the mortgage. The rooms will rent for the same amount no matter whether it is stick built or not. Land is about 30-40k, which I will also have to buy with the FHA loan.

I am thinking of getting an FHA loan to buy land and buy a brand new manufactured home to put on there. There's a mobile home builder near me and they can do custom floor plans, so I'm thinking of putting a lot of rooms into the home and renting them out, or perhaps putting in an "in-law" suite to rent out, while also living in the home. Mobile homes are just a lot cheaper than stick built. Like, quite a lot, maybe 50% cheaper, and they look great on the inside, like a "million dollar" home. But, I know they depreciate... is it really a bad idea to buy a brand new manufactured home and put it on permanent foundation? The homes look great and it's way more square footage for the money...

Say it would be a 2000-2500 square feet "SFH" with 10 bedrooms and 6 bathrooms or something like that. Half the bedrooms would have their own bathroom. How would such a house be appraised? Would it be worth more than your average 2500 square foot SFH, or less?

Originally posted by @Carl Fischer:

@Ellie Narie

If you did have to pay SE tax THEN rent the house to the Scorp at a dollar less than what you make thus your scorp income will be a dollar and you personally take the depreciation and rental income with no SE tax. Cities and states are making some crazy laws when it comes to AIRBNB. 

 This is what I was thinking as well. However, since airbnb income can be different each month, would it be legal to set up that kind of "rental agreement" with my S-corp in the eyes of the IRS? Where the S-corp only pays me the rent in proportion to what airbnb income the property made that the S-corp was renting out. So it won't be a "monthly" fixed rate, or even a daily fixed rate, it will be different every month. I'm wondering if such an agreement is ok in the eyes of the IRS. 

Post: Is there a limit on how many wet bars a SFH can have?

Ellie NariePosted
  • Investor
  • Ashland, OR
  • Posts 202
  • Votes 38

If I build a "single family home", are there usually limits on how many wet bars it can have? I know there is a limit of "1 kitchen", but what about wet bars? Like, I'd like to build 5 200sqft studios all with private entrances, full bathrooms, and kitchenettes. 

Originally posted by @Ashish Acharya:

@Ellie Narie

If you do not provide substantial service for AIRBNB, you are not subject to SE taxes. 

Some of the Substantial services : 

Cleaning of the rental portion of a property while occupied 

Concierge services 

Guest tours and outings

Meals and entertainment 

Transportation 

Other hotel-like services

I am not familiar with your situation, but make sure you are not paying SE taxes when you dont need too. 

I thought that vacation rentals where the average stay is less than 7 days are automatically considered non-passive self-employment.