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All Forum Posts by: Ellie Narie

Ellie Narie has started 94 posts and replied 200 times.

Originally posted by @Ashish Acharya:

@Ellie Narie

The rental income is not subject to SE taxes, so you really dont need S-corp. 

People use LLC for rentals for asset protection. Not saying you should get one. There are limited tax benefits form LLCs.

Also, no matter how you structure your entity, you are always deemed to have taken the depreciation by IRS. Meaning,  if you dont take it, you lose it. When you sell the property, you have to pay taxes on the recaptured depreciation even when you didn't take it. 

I'm thinking of hosting on airbnb, but I heard that it is self-employment income.

If you have a rental and set up an S-corp that will take 100% of the profits from the rental (can you do this to begin with? to avoid self-employment tax), and the S-corp's income will pass over to you, can you still deduct the depreciation of your rental? You own the rental in your name, NOT in the S-corp, and you have the mortgage of the rental in your name. 

Post: How do you build an energy efficient boarding house?

Ellie NariePosted
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  • Ashland, OR
  • Posts 202
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Originally posted by @Karen Margrave:

You will need to talk to an electrical contractor and find out the best way to accomplish what you want to do.  Are you talking about having separate meters for each room, or would you be paying the utility bills with rent? If you don't have separate meters, it sounds like a lot of problems ahead. 

I'd also suggest if you haven't already done so, to talk to the Planning Department and find out if boarding houses are allowed, and what the criteria for them will be,etc. You may need additional parking, fire sprinklers, etc.

 I'll have the tenants split the bill, so that they all still try to save on utilities (if I just charge them a flat rate, I'm afraid they'll overuse the utilities and not try to save). But they won't have separate meters.

Post: How do you build an energy efficient boarding house?

Ellie NariePosted
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  • Ashland, OR
  • Posts 202
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I'd like to build a duplex with by-the-room heating and cooling. It will have a total of 9 bedrooms, which will all be heated and cooled by the room (4 bedrooms in one unit, 5 bedrooms in another). They will all be small, 100 sq ft bedrooms, and the whole building will be no more than 2,000 square feet total, which means that living room and kitchen will also be on the smaller side. Since it will need a by-the-room heating and cooling, what are some suggestions as to how to approach this? I will live in one side of the duplex (the 4 bedroom side), and I will put tenants in the other side, it will be rented out by the room, so 5 rooms will be rented out to different tenants. I want by-the-room heating and cooling in both units, as I want my family to be able to choose their room temperatures individually as well. So, each of the 9 bedrooms needs to be able to choose its own temperature, and each kitchen/living area can be counted as one area in terms of temperature control. So I would think a total of 11 mini splits should do it, and I would be buying cheap ones for $200-$300 each online. 

What are some strategies to approach this kind of construction project, so that each room is heated and cooled individually, without having too big of an energy bill? Should I get solar panels, and if so, how big of a solar system do I need for this kind of project? Or should I just stick with gas appliances? And in that case, how can I make by-the-room heating and cooling possible? 

So I guess my biggest concern is, how do I make by-the-room heating and cooling possible with 11 different zones without spending too much on an energy bill and without spending too much as an upfront cost? Is there a middle ground somewhere?

Also, what are some approaches to water heating? Should I get a tankless system? And if so, wouldn't that use up quite a lot of energy? 

Post: What are owner-carry terms usually like?

Ellie NariePosted
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  • Ashland, OR
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Can they be pretty much the same as paying rent? Something like, 0 down, and $1800 for 3 years, and then a a balloon payment? I want to find a property with owner-carry terms so that I can put it up on airbnb. Then, once I have a year or two of airbnb income, I could refinance into something more permanent. 

Post: What defines a kitchen vs a kitchenette?

Ellie NariePosted
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  • Ashland, OR
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Let's say you want to rent out a part of your house, say, your basement or attic. But you can't legally put another kitchen there. What's the closest thing you can do to make an "almost kitchen" in your basement? Can you put a half size 120V commercial convection oven in your basement, or would that break some kind of rule? Whay kind of ventillation and fans (hood?) would you need to install to make sure it can get aired out in case something burns?

Originally posted by @Account Closed:

I agree with @Joe Splitrock.  Run it by the underwriter and see what (s)he says, who knows, they may not care where the income comes from.  If GF actually gets paid I don't see and 'manufacturing'.  I think you are going to have a problem qualifying even if they allow it, it's too short term.  Not matter how you slice it you need to show a history and stability of income.

 Yep, girlfriend would actually get paid and get official W2s. How should this couple phrase their situation to the mortgage lenders?Should the girlfriend just say that she will be working for someone who hasn't been in business for very long?

Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @Will Barnard:
Originally posted by @Ellie Narie:

Also, what about people who plan to quit a job after they close on a mortgage? Are they committing fraud? 

 Semantics.

Who quits their job right after getting a mortgage? Most who do also have a plan to acquire a new job which is often better or with higher pay so no, it would not be fraud in that case.

Getting a job for two months just to quit after to qualify for thevlan, yes, that is fraud. So you can continue on with your semantics or you can listen to reason and facts, your choice.

Will I think at this point we should just give the answer she is looking for.

yes its perfectly acceptable to lie on an application.

yes you can do this no problem the laws are there but rarely enforeced

its kind of a wink and nod approach to lending.

there are all kinds of mortgage brokers that will help you with this they don't care if they make a few grand on the loan and jepordize their career not to mention there freedom.

so yes to you question for sure this can be done and you will have no problem

Case solved. 

I'm not sure where the problem would be if the girlfriend keeps earning a high income indefinitely.  

Originally posted by @Mike Cumbie:

"If the girlfriend plans to keep her income high, it would be fine then, right? As long as she plans to keep her job working for the boyfriend and plans to keep her income high."

Forgetting fraud, that is just not logical. In order to get a loan, they are willing to pay income taxes on the money by changing hands with it again. So she is liable for all income taxes etc, plus he owes all insurances and SS Disability etc. So to save 1% on a loan, they are willing to pay out 25%+ in taxes and liabilities to show a short term employment history. Taking the higher interest loan that will accept his employment income is still a much better route.

Just my 2 cents.

 It's not the interest rate that they care about, it's the downpayment. And it's not like they'd get taxed twice, they still have to pay income taxes on that money anyway whether he earns it or whether the girlfriend earns. 

If the girlfriend plans to keep her income high, it would be fine then, right? As long as she plans to keep her job working for the boyfriend and plans to keep her income high.