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All Forum Posts by: Stephanie P.

Stephanie P. has started 186 posts and replied 4622 times.

Post: Refinancing into a jumbo loan?

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Originally posted by @Reid Howland:

Hello- I am currently in the process of refinancing and was hoping some investors could give me some advice. 

Here are some details on the situation:

6 months ago we purchased a fixer duplex in Seattle area for 715k, we put 5% down. We put about 100k into it, and now got it reappraised in hopes to cash out to a 80% ltv.

It appraised at 1.1Million. At 80% ltv our loan amount is going to be be 880k and in the jumbo category (which dramatically increases the cost of loan)

Our goal is to cash out as much as possible, so we can moved out of this property, have a cash flowing deal and do it again, but don't know what to do, and don't want to pay the steep prices of a jumbo loan. Someone mentioned to us doing a HELOC instead? Any advice would be helpful!

Reid

We're in a historically low period for interest rates. Even DSCR loans, which would work in this case, are in the 4's generally on a 30 year fixed with short seasoning (6 months). What were you expecting; owner occupied rates?

Principal and interest on an 825K loan (75% ltv) at 4.5% would be $4180 per month. Add taxes and insurance to get your total payment (unless you're in an HOA, then add that too). On a duplex in Seattle, you should cash flow. It won't be a mountain of cash, but your price point is way higher than most of the rest of the country, so there's not much you can do.

Getting a HELOC would lower your cash flow, but replenish your coffers. If that's what you want to do, then it's a viable option. Part of it depends on the type of loan you have in place now. You may not be able to get a conventional loan until you've satisfied the 1 year requirement for the first one if you did it as an owner occupied loan. Not sure how you structured it.

Stephanie

Post: BRRR....How do I get the refi part? I have been turned down.

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Originally posted by @Steven Vonklein:

BRRR....How do I get the refi part? I have been turned down. I NEED A cash out refi based on the value of the asset not my income. The homes are rented,.

You need a DSCR loan. They're based on the property's ability to produce income and your credit. Lots of brokers here on BP that can help.

Stephanie

Post: Cash out Refinance to purchase more properties

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Originally posted by @Mary Javier:

Hello, just want to hear your advice if cash out refi is a smart move to fund the next investment property even if it means the mortgage will increase? We currently own 2 single home properties (one is rental and one is primary residence). Is it better to cash out refi the residence or the rental?   Our goal is to build our real estate portfolio and thinking on investing into fourplexes next. 

Thank you! 

-Mary

Hey Mary

If your goal is to build your business, using other people's money when it's cheap, is a smart way to go.  It's all about cash flow and profit, so if you can make that  money work for you, do it.  

Stephanie 

Post: Finance Option Scenario

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Originally posted by @Marquita Hightower:

This will be a primary residence for us. First time home buyers. I dont know how to check the legitimacy of the private lender. They have a website.

To check the legitimacy of a company that's going to offer a loan for your primary residence, go to nmlsconsumeraccess.org and type in the person or business's NMLS number.  If they don't have one, chances are they aren't legitimate, even with a website.

FHA is not the smart way to go either if you have 5% to put down. Save yourself the upfront mortgage insurance that's financed into the loan and go with a conventional 5% down product.

Bottom line: Pay your taxes if you want to get a conventional or FHA loan. If not, you'll pay over time with a loan product that verifies income with bank statements or something similar that carries a higher interest rate.

Best of luck

Stephanie

Post: Tips when refinancing Multifamily

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Originally posted by @Luis Valdez:

Extremely late. Thanks for the advice. I got locked into a good rate now and I am closing this upcoming week on a refi. 🤞🏽 @Stephanie P.

 Congratulations.  Glad I could help.

Post: Credit score decreasing due to mortgages

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Originally posted by @Mike Trzaska:

Hi BP,

I know most people here with multiple properties have dealt with this situation. Over the past 18 months I have acquired 4 rental properties, refinanced my home, and opened a HELOC. All good things, except my credit took a hit due to the recency of all these open lines. Prior to investing my score was always between 780-800, now I'm sitting at 660. Does anyone who has been in this situation before have any strategies they used to improve their score while continuing to invest and use mortgages as leverage? It's wild to me that owning 5 hard assets all with over 30% equity that pay me monthly can hurt my credit score. I guess it's just the rules of the game we play…

Thanks!

Before you do anything drastic like moving assets into an LLC or start paying off things do a "whatif scenario" through one of the bureaus or a "wayfinder" scenario that tells you specifically what you need to do to bump your score on each bureau. They make the rules, so let them tell you how to play. I'm not sure if it's available through the credit bureaus directly, but we've had great success with our clients doing them through our credit report provider. Most credit providers provide this service.

We had a client go from a 650 middle score into the 700's by paying down some debt, but like I said, it was specific to each bureau.  If you need their contact information, send me a PM.

Best of luck

Stephanie

Post: 3 easy refinance questions I can't find anywhere

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Originally posted by @Peter Kim:

1. When you decide to refinance, is it the appraiser that determines how much the home is worth? 

2. Let's say you bought the house for 80K and you refinance for 100K (fake easy numbers). After paying that initial 80K loan off, can that extra 20K be used for anything or does it have to be expenses related to that specific home? 

3. VA Loan specifically, if I were to refinance from VA to conventional I'm guessing I would have to pay 3.5% minimal of the new loan?

Hey Peter

Yes, when you refinance, the appraiser sets the value of the property based on the sales prices of other similar properties in the immediate neighborhood.  The properties should be similar in style, design and size.

If you have a payoff amount of 80K and you refinance for 100K, the 20K delta can be used for whatever you want to use it for.  Some of it will be eaten up in closing costs, but the other cash can be used for whatever.

Going from a VA to conventional, you'll be subject to the conventional loan to value restrictions. Just depends on the value of the property minus the payoff and then how much cash you have left and want to use.

Hope that answers your questions

Stephanie

Post: Considering a cash out refinance, looking for opinion on quotes

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Originally posted by @Daniel Hennek:
Originally posted by @Stephanie P.:

Those are the about the Fannie Mae rates right now.

Whether to do it or not is really a math question. Can you make the cash out pay for itself and if the answer is a comfortable yes at those interest rates, then do it. In Newport News, check out Towne Bank and see what they're doing. You may be pleasantly surprised. I'd also look into a HELOC.

Investment property 4 unit with 70% LTV cash out and 740+ credit can get you a convention loan for 3.375% at ZERO points APR 3.483%. So take that point away and drop the rate 1%. So no that's not what "Fannie Mae rates" are right now. For some lenders yes they are that bad with pricing but that's pretty much the top of the range, which means the least competitive. If you can't find something better than 4.375% for a point then maybe you have 680 credit? I re-ran my search with 680 and it would be 4.375% with no points, APR 4.412.

This is not an advertisement, just quoting rates from my pricing engine to help ya'll out.

Those rates you're quoting are super low.

Congratulations.  Not at all what I'm seeing.

Best of luck

Post: Considering a cash out refinance, looking for opinion on quotes

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Those are the about the Fannie Mae rates right now.

Whether to do it or not is really a math question. Can you make the cash out pay for itself and if the answer is a comfortable yes at those interest rates, then do it. In Newport News, check out Towne Bank and see what they're doing. You may be pleasantly surprised. I'd also look into a HELOC.

Post: Refinance for Self-Employed - running into a snag

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Originally posted by @Robin W.:

I'm attempting to refinance a 2-unit rental property I've paid down over 15 years, but feeling discouraged. Currently there is 150k left on the mortgage at a high interest rate of 5.5% at a fixed 30, and I was hoping to lock in lower rates offered to take some pressure off the monthly mortgage payment and increasing property taxes. 

When I approached the same major bank currently handling my mortgage, they told me I'd easily be approved for a 150k loan, cutting my monthly payment in half, and locking me in a 15 year rate of 2.8- 2.9% instead of my current terrible 5.5% rate. But now I hit a snag because I'm self-employed and they require two years of tax returns for self-employed.

The issue is my 2019 tax return features a stint on unemployment after a corporate layoff, and then in 2020 I changed industries earning at first 50k as an independent contractor, but now in 2021, this industry change led to considerably more income for 2021 (100k+). I'm essentially earning more as an independent contractor than I ever did as an enterprise employee, but because I can't file my taxes for 2021 yet, then only my 2019 and 2020 income will be considered making me unqualified, despite an 851 credit score and no debt other than current mortgage of 150k.  

I asked if I could prove Year-to-Date earnings with my contracts, invoices, and bank statements, but they said underwriters always fail these exceptions for self-employed. Am I really stuck in applying for these rates until February or March reflect 2020 and 2021? 

I'm so worried it's my last chance for these rates.

Unfortunately, don't waste your time shopping. It's a conventional guideline.

As others have said, a DSCR loan would work for you and in some cases, you can pay it as a 15 year to pay it down faster, but be mindful of the prepayment penalties. They can be hard and fast and pricey. Some are. Some aren't. Some allow some prepayment and some don't allow any. Ask the questions.

Frankly, I'd wait until March and see if you can get a 15 year in the 2's. If not, do a DSCR loan then.

5.5 is not terrible historically.

Congratulations on your self employment success.