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All Forum Posts by: Stephanie P.

Stephanie P. has started 186 posts and replied 4622 times.

Post: Do I need hard money loan or cash to do the “buy” stage of BRRRR?

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Quote from @Mike Schorah:

Are there any type of rehab loans or rehab/mortgage loans that I could take out if I have a 20-40% down payment?

HMLs seem to want experience and I don’t have enough to buy 100% cash.


 You should be able to get 80% of the acquisition covered and 100% of the rehab covered on a fix and flip loan.  If you want to convert that same loan to long term, that's doable too after 6 months on title.  Those products are available for non-owner occupied only.

Stephanie

Post: STR APPRAISAL VALUE FALLING SHORT

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Quote from @Rhonda Cohen:

Visio Lending will consider STR projections. However, they also have a strong preference for experienced STR investors. You also need excellent credit. There is also a 5 year buy back penalty if you do not keep the loan for at least 5 years.

@Rhonda Cohen I think it's a prepayment penalty, not a buyback.  Two very very different things.  

@Jonathan Taylor is right, a single family residential (although income producing) property would be appraised using the sales approach, not income.  

@Mya Toohey If the DSCR works at 1.0 or better using long term rents, there are a lot of DSCR brokers that can get that through. Where you run into problems is if the property has no track record on AirBnB or VRBO and there's no data available through
AirDNA.  Then they have to go off of the comparable rents.  PM me for more information or with additional questions.

Stephanie

Post: Question for Conventional/Non-QM Brokers/Lenders that do DSCR loa

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Quote from @Robin Simon:

For any conventional/non-QM brokers and lenders - if you do a full suite of products for investment properties, I'm curious to know how many deals start as conventional / or non-QM non-DSCR (such as Bank Statement, Asset Depletion, etc.) but then hits a snag in qualification and then moves/qualifies as DSCR (instead of deal getting completely canceled). Do a lot of the borrowers that miss qualifying at underwriting end up switching to a DSCR loan or is that portion just ended up canceling the deal?

Also curious if there have been any changes in the above answers in the current climate vs. last year etc


Last year, we were closing loans for borrowers that would qualify for conventional, but the rates were similar and they didn't want the hassle. Now, we're seeing lots of deals that don't work because the DSCR is too low. Yes, to answer your question, the bulk of the people we get are people that don't necessarily qualify for conventional financing. Last year was an anomaly and rates were artificially low.

Post: Thoughts on DSCR Loans

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Quote from @Kevin Woodard:

With regard to scaling, they are not reported to the bureaus (at least the products I am familiar with are not). So if you are running into problems with taking out loans in your name this solves that problem. If you are to the point where you are feeling the effects of too many personal loans, you will start seeing the ability to qualify with a conventional product becoming more difficult. You will take a hit on the rate if you can get a loan at all, I saw it recently (6 personal loans in 1 year and the borrower couldn't get the 7th.) 

They are more aligned with fed action and the secondary market, so DSCR will follow rate trends. They are very more dependent on leverage and your credit score. Hope this helps!


While the DSCR loans do not report to the bureaus, they are typically personally guaranteed. Down the road, if the borrower is in a different situation and they want to use conventional financing, the loans that they personally guaranteed will count against their 10 properties financed when a conventional underwriter pulls a drive report. It's a background check of sorts. DSCR loans are great, but it's a misconception to think they will not count against their max limit of properties financed for conventional financing.

Post: Thoughts on DSCR Loans

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Quote from @Ocean Van:

Does DSCR require the property to have tenants already to qualify for the 1.25 ratio? I'm thinking about using a HELOC to acquire the property and then refinance to pay back the balance. Can I refinance to a DSCR loan? Does the DSCR rate less than HELOC rate, mine is prime + 0.75% (5.5% as of today)?


It depends on the lender, but in general, no, they can be vacant. The appraiser will provide a comp rent schedule that sets the rent amount for the DSCR number.

Post: Bank will not approve

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Quote from @Scott E.:

As others have suggested, your best bet is to get a few more opinions from other banks and credit unions.

Jack makes point about the cash reserves though. If you don't have any cash reserves, the bank isn't going to give you a loan on an investment property (which is a good thing)

There are DSCR lenders that don't have a reserve requirement.  I agree it's smart to have them, but not all lenders require them.

Post: Questions about who to get the loan from

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Quote from @Mickael Castillo:

OK so just to start off, I have had several set back when it come to money raising process to purchase a home (I'm still renting). I hear about two options when it comes to who to get a loan from if I get approved. One is naca, I have been to their seminar about two years ago and it's always been interesting to me but never acted upon. Two is divvy, my wife's choice of who to go through for home buying. Realistically I want a multifamily to start and grow with but as everyone know it's pretty scarce out there. I would appreciate if anyone has ever used any of the two and if the can give me some insights on them. I really am thankful and looking forward to your responses.


The best multi-family product on the market today is FHA. Minimal down payment that can all be a gift. Significant seller contributions that can cover all closing costs. There are downsides to FHA as well, but it's by far the best for house hacking an owner occupied, multi family property.

Post: Bank will not approve

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Quote from @Melissa S.:

Any thoughts out there?

I have a W2 job, greater than 800 credit score and only 2 mortgages. I was looking to get pre approved on a mult family today and the bank will not approve. Im using a HELOC for the down payment, which is 25%. They indicated my debt was too high. How do I go about getting this multi that I am interested in ?

Get a DSCR loan if the new multi family is for investment. The HELOC will be allowed, the debt ratio doesn't come into play and you can go 20% down if you want (pricing is better the lower the LTV though)

Post: Lenders in NJ for non-conventional mortgage

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Quote from @Andrew Garcia:

Hi @Edo Y., there are a few products that might fit your scenario.

1. Net rent. This is for clients that do not qualify because they have other rental properties that hurt them on their Schedule E. It takes a more investor-friendly approach to calculate income. It generally has better rates than DSCR but higher than conventional.

2. DSCR. This is where you are qualified based on the income generated by the property. Not your personal income.

As for a small, local bank, they might have different products that are more well-suited to you. Unfortunately, I do not have any referrals in Weehawken, NJ.

DSCR is only about 1% higher in rate than conventional (less so with perfect credit) so even with that option, you would not be dramatically more expensive than it currently is.

Hope this helps! Let me know if I can be of any assistance.


 it's owner occupied

Post: Questions on Seller Concessions

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Quote from @James Edwards:

So I've been researching seller concessions, either closing costs, or paid points. 

It appears at 10% down, max seller can do is 3% on Fanny Freddy loans. 

I am curious if there would be any creative work arounds?  Is it the full amount a seller can comp, or is that just the closing costs limit and seller can do other things? 

Ie say I want a home backup generator, or central air installed and offer is contingent on that. I would imagine most sellers would just comp the value. Does that eat into the max the seller could do?


 Yes. The underwriter would reduce the cost of the generator from the sales price.  You're better off negotiating that off contract.