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All Forum Posts by: Matthew Masoud

Matthew Masoud has started 45 posts and replied 351 times.

Post: Ask Me Anything Mid-Term edition.

Matthew Masoud
#3 Buying & Selling Real Estate Contributor
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  • Orange County, CA
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Quote from @Mara Sargent:

which are your favorite websites to list your mid-term rentals on?


 Furnish Finder brings in quite a bit but it's a manual reservation so more work is involved (lease, deposit ect).

I like airbnb because they handle the payment side of things. Their strong review system has helped me say no to a lot of tenants. Plus it comes with insurance. Their fees are pretty hefty though.

Then I get surprise bookings from other platforms like booking.com, Expedia, and google travel. I put my units everywhere to make sure they stay booked.

Post: Mid-term rental deposit, application fee, & rent collection

Matthew Masoud
#3 Buying & Selling Real Estate Contributor
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Quote from @Robert Calabro:

What do mid-term renters prefer when it comes to security deposit? I'm leaning towards a smaller non-refundable deposit vs a full month rent that is refundable. I would love to hear what others have experienced with it. 

Secondly, is it common to do a normal application fee for background and credit? My current platform charges $55. Should I keep doing this or is there something better for mid-term stays?

Lastly, what is the preferred method for collecting rent with mid-term stays? I'm currently using Avail.co for my long-term rentals. 

TIA!


 This is how we do it for our own mid-term portfolio and for the ones we manage.

1. $600 refundable deposit for anything over 31 days. In 3-years in the Mid-Term rental space and 100s of reservations, we've never had to use it.

2. We give them two options for screening. they can either provide documentation that they are traveling for their job or they can pay for tenant screening. You've got to find a cheaper platform though because $55 is fairly steep ours charges $35.

3. We use hostaway in combination with doorloop to manage mid-term rentals. Hostaway is a short term rental software but with enough finagling you can get it to work for mid-term as well. Doorloop is for maitaince requests, reporting, and overall operations. We are able to run pretty well with over 100 mid-term units on these platforms.


The mid-term space is super new so we are all kind of finding out footing together at the same time. 

Post: Ask Me Anything Mid-Term edition.

Matthew Masoud
#3 Buying & Selling Real Estate Contributor
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  • Orange County, CA
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Quote from @Charles Lambert:
Quote from @Mara Sargent:
Quote from @Matthew Masoud:

This forum has done so much for me and I felt a bit guilty this afternoon for not giving back. 

Scaled to 48 Mid-Term Rentals in 2 years OH, hired a property manager and maintenance person. Quitting my job next week and moving to North Carolina to grow a portfolio there.

So Ask me anything, Mid-Term Rentals edition.


Congrats Matthew!  I have a 4 plex that I have a property management company mange 3 of the units and I live in the 4th unit.  I am moving out of my 1 bedroom apartment and I originally planned on long term renting it furnished.  Now, Im thinking mid-term rental as it is near town and a hospital. How much more can I charge for MTR vs Long term?  Is there a general rule of thumb percentage? 


 That's awesome! It sounds exactly like what I'm planning to do! Nice to know there are other people doing this, though I am hoping to have a two bedroom apartment for myself, so I can have one room for a home office. I am also intrigued in doing a furnished medium term rental in one of the units, and if it goes well, maybe do all of the units (except the one I'm in) like that.


 This is pretty much exactly what I did. I had a triplex back in 2020 that had a tenant leaving. I thought why not give this Mid-Term rental a chance? Worst case scenario I donate the furniture to the church and I'm back where I started.

The reservations came in fast and hard. Market rent for that apartment was $700, I was renting at $1,400 with near 100% occupancy. 

Post: Ask Me Anything Mid-Term edition.

Matthew Masoud
#3 Buying & Selling Real Estate Contributor
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  • Orange County, CA
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Quote from @Adrian Tjakra:

Is there any property management company specializing in Mid Term rental you would recommend in the Ohio area?


 I was not able to find one. It was either long-term property management or short-term property management so I actually started my own. 

We almost exclusively manage our own property but are not opposed to taking other properties and plugging them into our operations.

Post: Ask Me Anything Mid-Term edition.

Matthew Masoud
#3 Buying & Selling Real Estate Contributor
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  • Orange County, CA
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Quote from @Bonnie Low:

That's a lot of scaling in 2 years - congratulations! Are you doing the rental arbitrage method? Between the 3 cities you mentioned: Cincinnati, Dayton and Columbus which do you see performing best for MTRs and who are your target guests?


 I don't do rental arbitrage. It's a good side income but it's a job not building wealth. Can be a great way to get started if you have absolutely no funds.

Columbus has the best metrics for mid-term rentals but the properties there do come at a premium compared to Dayton and even Cincinnati.

Post: Ask Me Anything Mid-Term edition.

Matthew Masoud
#3 Buying & Selling Real Estate Contributor
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Quote from @Charles Lambert:
Quote from @Matthew Masoud:
Quote from @Brian Malavsky:

There are a couple great podcast episodes on asset protection, the main show ep. 595, and BP Rookie ep. 105 & 106, that give a ton of great information on what LLC's can and can't do for you.

For me, I personally use an umbrella policy for my protection but did setup an LLC immediately more so for financing later on down the road. I believe you need to show consistent income for two years before you can get financing through the business. I am working towards investing full-time and leaving my W-2 behind. So, I wanted to start the 2yr clock as soon as possible. I also keep my personal funds and business funds completely seperate. The corporate veil of an LLC can get pierced very easily if funds aren't managed correctly. It may seem complicated but it really isn't if you create a business bank account and credit card. You always can add a cash infusion into your business and repay yourself of that loan. I've been told that when you start pulling out business income (money exceeding the "personal loan" you gave to your business) for personal use is when things get dicey.

I am by no means an expert, but more so relaying advice that I have recieved. Hope this helps @Charles Lambert

Cheers! 


 You hit two key points here.

1. Having an LLC alone does not protect you from liability, mixing funds is the most common way to open yourself up to liability.

2. Financing in an LLC is difficult because you have to show income. A common way around this is to personally guarantee the loan. This is more common in commercial financing than it is in residential financing.


 I guess those are the pros and cons of incorporating. Mixing personal and business money sounds like a bad idea, I wasn't going to, but now that I know mixing funds can open me up to liability, that's another good reason to incorporate and keep funds separate. I should incorporate right away (or when I'm getting close to buying my first building), for a few reasons:
- liability protection
- establish the business (and its creditworthiness)
- looks professional, as it should be if I'm going to own a quadplex, and then maybe more buildings later (presumably all buildings can be under the same corporate name)


As for financing, hopefully by the time I need to apply for it, I will have established a good credit reputation and have solid financial statement to qualify for financing or even a business credit card. For my first purchase, I want to buy with cash and be debt free, then I'll see about borrowing to buy another building. I'd rather not personally guarantee anything, but I've heard of that being done.


You will want to consider an LLC over incorporating. It'll take an attorney 15 minutes (and probably $200) to tell you exactly what you need.

Money Well spent.

Post: Ask Me Anything Mid-Term edition.

Matthew Masoud
#3 Buying & Selling Real Estate Contributor
Posted
  • Investor
  • Orange County, CA
  • Posts 359
  • Votes 398
Quote from @Brian Malavsky:

There are a couple great podcast episodes on asset protection, the main show ep. 595, and BP Rookie ep. 105 & 106, that give a ton of great information on what LLC's can and can't do for you.

For me, I personally use an umbrella policy for my protection but did setup an LLC immediately more so for financing later on down the road. I believe you need to show consistent income for two years before you can get financing through the business. I am working towards investing full-time and leaving my W-2 behind. So, I wanted to start the 2yr clock as soon as possible. I also keep my personal funds and business funds completely seperate. The corporate veil of an LLC can get pierced very easily if funds aren't managed correctly. It may seem complicated but it really isn't if you create a business bank account and credit card. You always can add a cash infusion into your business and repay yourself of that loan. I've been told that when you start pulling out business income (money exceeding the "personal loan" you gave to your business) for personal use is when things get dicey.

I am by no means an expert, but more so relaying advice that I have recieved. Hope this helps @Charles Lambert

Cheers! 


 You hit two key points here.

1. Having an LLC alone does not protect you from liability, mixing funds is the most common way to open yourself up to liability.

2. Financing in an LLC is difficult because you have to show income. A common way around this is to personally guarantee the loan. This is more common in commercial financing than it is in residential financing.

Post: Ask Me Anything Mid-Term edition.

Matthew Masoud
#3 Buying & Selling Real Estate Contributor
Posted
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  • Orange County, CA
  • Posts 359
  • Votes 398
Quote from @Charles Lambert:

Nice! Do you think medium term rentals are the way to go? I suppose it depends on the city and neighborhood. I'm going to sell my SFH and move to an area with a lower cost of living and buy a quadplex (which I'll be able to afford, all cash and probably have a decent amount of money left over). I want to buy in a mid sized city, maybe with a college, and in an urban, downtown area if possible.

My thought was to house hack and live in one unit. Then, maybe rent out one of the others (or maybe all of them, eventually as tenants move out), convert them to medium term rentals. I have enough furniture to furnish one or two additional apartments, in addition to my own.

Or, for a newbie, would it be better to just focus on LTR? I like the idea of collecting more rent, but that means more turnover, but on the bright side, if I get a bad tenant, I know that in a few months they will be moving.

It really depends on your goals as an investor. Medium term rentals are a lot more management intensive, but will yield higher returns.

on the other hand, long-term rentals typically require less work, but also have significantly less returns

you’ll also eventually run into the issue I did in which finding a property management company for These rentals is difficult. you may have to start off your own operations like I did.

it all depends on what kind of returns you are looking for how much time you’ll have available to give to your properties and your goals.

Post: Ask Me Anything Mid-Term edition.

Matthew Masoud
#3 Buying & Selling Real Estate Contributor
Posted
  • Investor
  • Orange County, CA
  • Posts 359
  • Votes 398
Quote from @Josie Kelley:

What sort of market research did you do prior to investing in OH specifically when trying to capture the insurance market? I'm located in Atlanta and I'm curious to know what things I should be considering when purchasing. 

To be honest I stumbled upon the insurance clients by luck. What I realized is that these clients are everywhere.

Higher density of homes (especially single family) higher insurance housing claims you're more likely to deal with.

I also like to look at hotel occupancy in the area. I don't have specific stats but I'll call the closest 2-3 hotels and ask about availability. Pretty informal.


Post: Ask Me Anything Mid-Term edition.

Matthew Masoud
#3 Buying & Selling Real Estate Contributor
Posted
  • Investor
  • Orange County, CA
  • Posts 359
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To be honest I stumbled upon the insurance clients by luck. What I realized is that these clients are everywhere.

Higher density of homes (especially single family) higher insurance housing claims you're more likely to deal with. 

I also like to look at hotel occupancy in the area. I don't have specific stats but I'll call the closest 2-3 hotels and ask about availability. Pretty informal.