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All Forum Posts by: Taylor L.

Taylor L. has started 52 posts and replied 4896 times.

Post: Apartment Building Syndication

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@Brian Burke always brings the heat with his answers!

I would echo that you should read, re-read, and probably re-re-read all documentation the sponsors provide for a deal. 

In my opinion, investors should review at least a few syndications before investing in one, including the PPM, operating agreement, and everything else. Research sponsors thoroughly, up to and including criminal background checks. There are folks out there who will review deals for you and provide their opinion for a fee. 

Post: What should i be doing on my free time? Apt investing 50+ units

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Lots of great feedback here. I would take one step back from any of these recommendations and ask yourself:

What am I missing that will help me close deals?

Is it broker relationships?

Is it capital? 

Is it partners?

Figure out what your answer is, then build a system to support that need. Sometimes, thought leadership & content marketing are great answers. Other times, improving and using your CRM system is a good answer. What are you, @Frank Bonzai, missing?

Post: Top takeaways from 10X Growth Con 3 regarding the multifamily biz

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Originally posted by @Todd Olson:

I attended the 10XGrowthcon as well. Terrific experience. Being around like minded people was inspiring enough. Adding in the speakers, Grant Cardone and his team was icing on the cake. I did not get as much real estate takeaway as much as doing more focus on 10Xing my goals and dreams. I learned a lot from a couple of the speakers and met some great people in the crowd. I have to say Pete Vargas really hit me the hardest. I never heard of him before the event. He stressed being a speaker in front of many people to get your message or product out into the world. I believe each speaker punched everyone in the mouth with some sort of a value-add to their life. It really depended on what you do and your hopes and dreams and why you were there. I will certainly will continue to follow Grant and learn from him. I first discovered him on his podcast here at BiggerPockets. Episode #108. I am closing on my first commercial property later this week. An 8 unit building in Delaware. Many people on this site think too small. You are capable of much more than you give yourself credit. Think bigger to scale faster. Financial freedom is the goal @brandonturner preaches. 

 Absolutely agreed that the direct real estate takeaway was little to nothing.You have to take things he taught and translate them to whatever business you're in, and multifamily syndication definitely fits with many of the lessons Grant was teaching! Congratulations on your 8 unit! I went to U of Delaware so DE has a special place in my heart. Where is your property?

Post: Top takeaways from 10X Growth Con 3 regarding the multifamily biz

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@Kevin M. I was not a fan of the food & bev selection either! As a vegetarian the options were fries and nachos. Ha!

@John Murphy point taken! Absolutely if you're there to meet others you should be in the VIP section.

Post: Top takeaways from 10X Growth Con 3 regarding the multifamily biz

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I attended the 10X Growth Conference 3 February 1-3, 2019, along with 35,000 of my new friends. This is a huge event and it would be impossible to summarize everything you can learn in one post. What’s more, I have talked with others who had totally different takeaways.

Grant has a lot of valuable lessons to teach in the realm of sales and marketing for those of us raising money for Multifamily Syndications. These are my top lessons that translate directly to the multifamily syndication business. I took many more pages of notes which I’ll be sharing with my friends & investors. If you’d like a copy let me know.

My top 3 takeaways:

1) Successful Sales & Marketing is about attention

Two of the three days were dedicated to sales and marketing. Grant has made his money in sales for 40 years, so he has a lot to teach in that realm. He hammers on getting attention first and foremost, and that attention has helped grow his Cardone Capital business to where it is today.

Actionable takeaways for multifamily syndicators:

  • Make the phone call immediately, whether it’s an investor call or something else. Set an appointment.
  • Money follows attention.
  • Get more attention, Keep the attention, and Multiply the attention. This is the essence of building and marketing your brand.

2) Your website probably stinks.

Tai Lopez spent a half hour of his stage time ripping apart audience members’ websites. You need to deeply consider your target market and what they’re looking for when you design your website.

The websites he pulled were all owned by people sitting in the Diamond section ($6,000/seat). Those folks can certainly afford to have a top end people develop their sites, but they’re not doing it!

Actionable takeaways:

Learn the Psychological triggers that get us to buy

Have faces on your website. The human brain unconsciously scans for faces

Understand your target customer and what they’re interested in seeing.

3) 10Xing your business requires commitment and a different level of thinking

Jesse Itzler told us his story of going from independent rapper with a dead-end job to founder of a successful company, Marquis Jet. His story has many pivotal moments wherein he was faced with a choice: commit and do something bold to get an incredible result, or don’t commit and fail. His decisions to fully commit in the moment led to his booking Matt Damon and Jennifer Lopez as early clients (by talking his way into a private dinner). Those bold moves generated $4 billion in sales for Marquis Jet before they sold to Warren Buffett (Berkshire Hathaway).

Sara Blakely, founder, CEO, and owner of Spanx also spoke. She spent years developing her product, demonstrating it to corporate buyers, and snowballing until Spanx became the multibillion dollar brand it is today. Here’s the kicker: she never took outside investment. She put in the work and dedicated herself to her idea. Look at her now!

Steve Harvey was another awesome example. He worked dead-end jobs until he was in his thirties. He was always a funny guy in conversation with no plans to do anything about it. One day he did an open mic. HE KILLED! He was so inexperienced, he didn’t know he was being told to get off the stage until the club owner came and pulled him off. On the ride home all he could do was cry, because he had finally found his calling. He quit his job the next day and has never done any work other than comedy since.

Actionable takeaways:

Whatever you’re doing, commit!

To my Facebook friends: watch the video with my friend Julia, who became financially independent via real estate. She shares the 1 thing that made the difference and catapulted her to her success.

My typed out notes ended up taking 4 pages, and I’ll be recording 4 videos going more deeply into my takeaways from the event. I’m only sending those out to my friends and investors, rather than posting them publicly. If you want to be such a friend, send me a PM

Things to know for next time:

There is a fair amount of sales pitching. The speakers provide valuable content and guidance in their area of expertise, but in the end they are typically going to make a product or service offer at the end. That isn’t a bad thing, just heads up. Some people can’t handle it.

The cell reception was awful, but there was unsecured wifi. If you’re going to use unsecured wifi, use a VPN to protect your data!! I use Private Internet Access. Others have lost large sums of money through poor information security, do not join their numbers.

Networking: This is a huge event with little time for networking. Many of us who sat in the executive section this year are planning on VIP next year to improve the networking opportunities.

To all who went, what did you think of the event? What were your top takeaways?

Post: How to get investors to go in on deal(s) with you....

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Good guidance here already. I would add:

When you're bringing in investors who do not have an active role in the operation of your business, you are selling a security. That means you must comply with securities laws, and do a syndication. That means lawyers (the good kind who help you make money, though)

Regarding an example of how returns are made:

First off, for the investors: Generally, there is somewhere between an 80/20 to 60/40 ownership split, investors/sponsors. There are always outliers. I heard of a 90/10 recently.

Typically your investors will expect a preferred return of 7-8% on the cash flow. Basically, this means the investor makes 7-8% first from the cash flow, after which it's split between the investors and sponsors. At sale the return will be divided based on the equity ownership mentioned above, after investors receive their initial capital back.

For the sponsor: You can get paid MANY ways. Acquisition fees, asset management fees, and disposition fees are the ones I see most frequently, in addition to the cash flow splits mentioned above.

Most deals these days are value add. That means you buy the asset, raise the Net Operating Income by cutting expenses and/or growing revenue, and selling the property later for more, hopefully while making money off of the cash flow as well.

There are no hard-and-fast rules about what equity splits and preferred returns you should offer (if you even want to offer a preferred return). It's all about what investors are looking for right now and what they'll accept from you. Typically newer syndicators have to give more equity and return to investors.

In my opinion, it would be a good idea for you to meet experienced syndicators and get on their deal distribution lists, just so you can see what's out there and learn from observation. Success leaves clues!!

I would also recommend picking up Joe Fairless' Syndication book. Lots of great information in there. Attending events and meeting experienced people will be worth every penny if you're dedicated to the business. 

I'm happy to talk offline if you like, just shoot me a PM.

Post: What is the best way to build a list of multifamily properties?

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Agreed with @Account Closed, @Theo Hicks has a lot of wisdom to share here.

My methodology has been a combination of pulling publicly available lists and places like Listsource and AgentPro247. The research rents based on those lists. This stuff takes a lot of time, for sure. 

Or, you could buy Costar!

Post: Do syndicators outperform the average investor?

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@Kevin Dean "If you believe that you can generate a greater return on your time through your non-real estate related activities, as compared to potential active real estate activities, then you should focus all of your time on those activities and invest your money passively with a proven sponsor."

100% agree with this. I had a call with a prospective investor this morning. A busy professional with zero additional time to invest in real estate. Half a mil in the bank and zero time to spare. In my opinion he is the perfect candidate for passive syndication investor. We offer him tax advantages and a way to reliably outperform the market, which is a great deal!

@Jason Powell most experienced syndicators will have a $50k or $100k minimum. They're going after big fish investors, and even the big fish sometimes want to start with $50k to test the waters before investing hundreds or a million plus.

Post: SD-IRA and UBIT questions

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@Brian Eastman while we've got you here, something I've been rolling around in my head recently:

Why use a Roth SDIRA at all if you're investing in leveraged syndications? Would there be any major disadvantage to pulling out contributions and using them to invest in the same syndications? 

This way you avoid the SDIRA custodian fees, you get to take advantage of passive losses, but you do still pay capital gains taxes.

Post: Multifamily CRM - managing names and follow ups

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I use Contactually, it's very plug and play for following up with your investors. I want to try Podio but it seems to require far too much complicated setup.