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All Forum Posts by: Travis Biziorek

Travis Biziorek has started 7 posts and replied 1748 times.

Post: Investing in Detroit

Travis BiziorekPosted
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Originally posted by @Michael Harris:
Originally posted by @Kyle Zimpleman:

The cities core is great.  People like Gilbert have taken abandoned buildings and make the core city a place you can feel somewhat safe in.  However, if you believe that extends to outside of unique areas like Corktown,  you will find out quickly the reason prices are so cheap.  The main reason, in my opinion, is the tenant base has not changed.  Unless you can find a good section #8 long term renter, the operating costs will be excessive.  Factor into your cap expenses- loss of your furnace, water heater, and any thing of value that can be removed easily when it becomes vacant.  There are home sitters you can hire that will guard your home- But really do you want to deal with this?  Wayne county is huge and Detroits neighborhoods are street by street.  Do not attempt to make your riches there unless you have a team in place.  I would also factor in little to no long term appreciation.  Yes you can look back to the Great Recession and see how everything went up including rents.  But those days are over.  Michigan in general is a value State not an appreciation State.  Don't believe the 15% cap rates they are leaving out vacancy/bad debt/high taxes/high cap expenses.

You makes some good points here.  However, a vacancy doesn't mean an automatic loss of your furnace and water heater... and you don't need a house sitter either.  You can have DAWGS put steel covers on your doors and accessible windows if necessary.  Or you can install your own polycarbonate covers until you get it occupied.

 I've been considering simply having a security system in place for vacant homes. Any experience doing that, Michael?

Post: Newbie in Detroit. What's Going on Here??

Travis BiziorekPosted
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Originally posted by @Shanae Swaby:

@Travis Biziorek Do those loans accept less than 20% down?

Not entirely sure, but I believe as long as the loan amount is at least $25k they would. Not sure it's worth the PMI, higher rate, etc. doing that though.

Post: Detroit Property Management Disaster

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Hi @Matt Franklin, I'm sorry to hear about your troubles. That sucks. Taylor isn't actually Detroit, but a suburb of Detroit. Regardless, I'm glad you triggered my keyword alert for Detroit anyway.

I don't think your problems are unique. Property management firms are notoriously terrible in this area. I haven't actually used one yet but there are two seemingly solid ones I've found during my research. Again, I can't vouch for these guys personally because i haven't used them. I'll send you the info via PM.

Post: Property Manager Suggestion for Detroit Northern Suburbs

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Mark,

IMO it's a huge waste to sell this home, especially if you plan to own a rental on your next house. If you can refi this house and get all or even most of your money out, it's a no-brainer. But I get how it's important to be on the same page as the wife... I definitely get it!

In terms of property management, I was in the same boat. I've searched for a solid PM in the Detroit Metro area but haven't found one yet. I've decided to self-manage for the time being and go from there. Ultimately I hope to have enough properties where I can just hire an assistant and continue to scale the self-management model.

PM's in our area are expensive. They generally charge first month's rent plus 10% of gross rent/month. They also have a bunch of fees and I'm sure they up-charge for repairs/service calls.

So if it's at all possible, I'd consider self-managing. Read some books on being a landlord and look into the many tools there are for running that side of your business. It's easier than ever IMO.

Also, I'm in Troy too. Welcome!

Post: Newbie in Detroit. What's Going on Here??

Travis BiziorekPosted
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Originally posted by @Shanae Swaby:

@Christian Hutchinson Housing values should be appreciating now. There's a lot of speculation on what values will look like in the next 1-5 years so it will be interesting to see how things play out.

 Access to capital is my biggest blocker right now. I hear banks don't write many mortgages for <$50k so I was thinking about getting a land contract or another type of hard money loan for the purchase. My dilemma is choosing between a flip to build capital faster, or use my limited capital for a down payment on a multi-unit to build passive income.

Hey Shanae,

Some will tell you banks aren't lending <$50k in the Detroit area. That's not true.

I know plenty of mortgage brokers that will lend down to a $25k loan. So assuming 20% down you're talking a purchase price of ~$32k. I can intro you to a guy I use and many in the area rely on.

So you definitely can pick up properties without paying all cash, but it will limit you to what properties you can purchase based on the terms they accept. Not all sellers are accepting conventional loans. They only want cash. That said, I see plenty of properties that I'm interested in purchasing that offer both. 

Post: Investing in Detroit

Travis BiziorekPosted
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Hey Caroline, let me know when you're in town and we can meet up.

In the meantime, I highly recommend searching some other threads about Detroit here. Most will tell you that you can't just look at "areas" or zip codes. Detroit really is street by street, and you need to have someone on the ground to properly vet properties without getting burned.

Post: Investing in Detroit

Travis BiziorekPosted
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Originally posted by @Said Aliyev:

If you are not here to "hand out your time/effort" on questions you feel are too generic, you do not have to..You also do not have to tell me or anyone else on biggerpockets how they should or shouldn't spend their time and efforts researching markets. Based on your answer and explanation its better you do not share your insight. 

Steven addressed this nicely already.

I'm all about sharing and helping, but if the person asking for help can't be bothered to do some research and spend their own time before asking, I have a problem with that.

And if you don't understand why I have a problem with that, I truly don't have the time to spend explaining it. I will always put an equal amount of effort into answering questions as the effort that was put into asking them.

Post: Detroit (or Baltimore or Philadelphia) - Investing from abroad

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Originally posted by @Pedro D.:

@Jamiel Strickland

Thanks Jamiel for your advice!

Is this something that can be viewed on Google Streetview (obviously once you know which the good neighborhoods are)? I mean, streets “looking good” will mean that those streets are ok, or there is a lot more to that?

 I live in Detroit metro and even dropped by downtown the other month and had lunch with @Jamiel Strickland . He knows his stuff.

But I'll reiterate. Do not rely on Google Streetview. I'm closing on my first Detroit rental next week and did probably 100+ hours of research before locating this deal. I went and walked through probably two dozen houses. 

I can tell you 100% that the vibe, look and feel that you get when you are there in person can be drastically different from what you saw and experience online via Streetview. One property in particular I thought was a no-brainer buy... I went to see it and immediate changed my mind. 

Post: Flipping and Wholesaling are Dead... RIP

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Originally posted by @Victor S.:

But clickbaiting is well and alive :)

There is still definitely room for both activities, even in the current cycle. 

 Click-baiting will never die!

And yes, the current cycle provides plenty of opportunity still, IMO. But if I'm in the wholesaling or flipping business I'd be taking notice. 

Do you want to keep doing the same thing, waiting for the hammer to come down? Or do you want to get ahead of the curve and reinvent yourself to survive?

Better yet, why not reinvent your business so that you thrive? IMO, investing in areas that the big guys haven't expanded to yet is the way to do that, likely as a buy and hold investor.

Post: Flipping and Wholesaling are Dead... RIP

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Originally posted by @Rich S.:

Won't there always be a niche for people to work the low volume, run of the mill areas? I live in rural MN... the type of places where a handshake that is trusted means way more than a fancy approach or number. I think there will always be a place for the average Joe RE investor, but those places are less and less. I do agree the REI is tougher and tougher for the small guy because of these types of programs, the growth of syndications, etc . It is becoming like many other businesses, the folks running more volume with smaller margins will keep carving out a bigger and bigger piece of the pie.

 Rich, like the local hardware shop before Home Depot arrives in town, I think the answer is yes and no.

As Jay notes below, margins will compress. Your small, rural areas will attract folks that can't make the numbers work in the more urban parts. Obviously, this will compress margins. 

You may have to reinvent yourself or differentiate to survive. I don't know what that looks like as I'm not in the wholesale or flipping business, but it will have to happen.